WOW - AMD is in trouble

[biostud]

at the time K8L will ship intel will be close to releasing 45nm chips: http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=2840&p=3 , so it will be quite interesting how good K8L will be if it has to compete with 45nm chips. AMD could easily compete with Intel when they only had netburst processors. But with C2D Intel made a very efficient processor and running a year ahead in production technology, so AMD really has to come up with something.....

 

[Griswold]

The FUD machine obviously did a good job - considering all the moronic fanboy posts in this thread.

 

[zsdersw]

Originally posted by: Griswold
The FUD machine obviously did a good job - considering all the moronic fanboy posts in this thread.

You mean OcHungry?

 

[NoStateofMind]

Originally posted by: Duvie

Originally posted by: myocardia
Actually, there is something that every one of you aren't catching on to, though it seems quite obvious to me. As long as AMD keeps selling processors, they won't be going out of business. Intel is the best example that you don't have to have the best performing chip to be able to stay in business, and continue to make money.

Ding Ding Ding!! we have a winner!!! Tell him what he won Johnny!!!!


AMD wont be going anywhere. they got a huge foothold in the server markets now and so one or 2 product cycles out of the lead will not kill them...they had the lull in the K7 line when Intel hit its stride with the northwoods and the doom and gloomers came out then....


I have quad cores now!!! 2 boxes....I now what can take advantge of 4 cores and what cannot...most will not need them....I could always use them....I will wait for a kentsfield and a K8L...

(2) Opteron 270's
Iwill DK8X Server Board
OCZ 600 Powerstream
(4x512) Corsair XMS 3200LL (cas 2-3-2-6)

(2) Opteron 265's @ 2.52ghz
Asus K8N-DL Server Board
Antec True Power 2.0 550watt PSU
(2x512) Corsair XMS 3200LL

Intel Core 2 Duo E6600
Ninja Scythe w/ 120mm fan
Gigabyte 865p DS3
OCZ 600watt Powerstream
2gb PC6400 DDR2 CL4-4-4-12

Like you need another system LOL

 

[myocardia]

Originally posted by: Accord99

Originally posted by: myocardia

Originally posted by: Accord99
In 6-7 weeks, Intel has shipped almost as many Core 2 Duos as AMD has with X2s in total.

Yeah, in your (and Intel's) dreams.

Intel says they've shipped 5 million Core 2 Duos:

http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=2840&p=2

HKEPC says AMD forecasts selling roughly 4.7 million X2s for the first 3 quarters of 2006.

http://www.hkepc.com/bbs/itnews.php?tid=646684

That's not what your sentence that I originally quoted means, and you know it. Your sentence, this one: "In 6-7 weeks, Intel has shipped almost as many Core 2 Duos as AMD has with X2s in total." means that in 6-7 weeks, Intel has sold almost as many C2D's as AMD has sold X2's in total. You can't change what you said later, in an attempt to get closer to the truth.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

AMD is in the best position they have ever been in, all things considered. The historic Dell deal, expanding of infrastructure, and long run as tech leader, have been the "shot in the arm" they sorely needed.

Intc has pulled out of the nose dive and is doing a vertical climb, yes, but that doesn't mean AMD subsequently nose dives as the reaction. Intc stuff is better now, but AMD's offerings aren't the debacle that the end of netburst was. So the game is still afoot! :beer:

 

[GundamSonicZeroX]

I think just about everyone here's missing the point. This is a good thing. The only winner in competition is the comsumer. We are the winners. We are able to buy the best whether it be Intel, AMD or some new guy. I also think it's enertaining to see: "AMD comes out with this, so Intel comes out with this." and "Intel did this so, AMD is doing that." Just my 2 cents.

 

[Viditor]

Originally posted by: Accord99

Originally posted by: myocardia

Originally posted by: Accord99
In 6-7 weeks, Intel has shipped almost as many Core 2 Duos as AMD has with X2s in total.

Yeah, in your (and Intel's) dreams.

Intel says they've shipped 5 million Core 2 Duos:

http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=2840&p=2

HKEPC says AMD forecasts selling roughly 4.7 million X2s for the first 3 quarters of 2006.

http://www.hkepc.com/bbs/itnews.php?tid=646684

Interesting...according to that same source you quoted, AMD will continue to grow and hit over 30% marketshare by the end of this year...

"the total production of desktop CPU is reaching 141 million in 2006. Compared with 46 million CPUs produced by AMD, it can be estimated that AMD is likely to hold more than 30% of the market share in the end of 2006"

BTW, 1 million of those 5 million C2D cores are Woodcrests (not sure what percentage of the remaining 4 million are Meroms...). The point being that AMD's largest growth is in Opteron, which wasn't part of that HKEPC article...so it is a bit misleading.

 

[Pabster]

Originally posted by: myocardia

Originally posted by: Accord99
In 6-7 weeks, Intel has shipped almost as many Core 2 Duos as AMD has with X2s in total.

Yeah, in your (and Intel's) dreams.

Actually, he's right.

 

[rudder]

I don't know why someone would take glee in the fact that AMD could be in trouble. I remember the day when AMD just made intel clones and until the Athlon, Intel could charge a premium for their cpu's.

 

[dexvx]

Originally posted by: rudder
I don't know why someone would take glee in the fact that AMD could be in trouble. I remember the day when AMD just made intel clones and until the Athlon, Intel could charge a premium for their cpu's.

What are you smoking.

The highest price for any desktop CPU was charged by AMD, the 1Ghz Athlon was $1299 in 1000 quantities at retail.

 

[Polish3d]

Yeah, although I've been far more pleased with my C2D than I was with my 4400+, AMD is a necessary counterweight just as ATI *sniff* (maybe) used to be necessary counterweight to nvidia

 

[Pabster]

Originally posted by: rudder
I don't know why someone would take glee in the fact that AMD could be in trouble. I remember the day when AMD just made intel clones and until the Athlon, Intel could charge a premium for their cpu's.

I personally take no comfort in it. AMD deserves credit for their technological innovations. They held the lead for almost 2 years on the desktop against a giant. But everyone knew Chipzilla wouldn't go quietly.

I don't believe AMD is in any real trouble. They are certainly now thrust in the role of "catch up" much as Intel was for almost 2 years. One can only hope they are as vigorous and pop up again down the road with something amazing.

 

[Accord99]

Originally posted by: myocardia
http://www.hkepc.com/bbs/itnews.php?tid=646684

That's not what your sentence that I originally quoted means, and you know it. Your sentence, this one: "In 6-7 weeks, Intel has shipped almost as many Core 2 Duos as AMD has with X2s in total." means that in 6-7 weeks, Intel has sold almost as many C2D's as AMD has sold X2's in total. You can't change what you said later, in an attempt to get closer to the truth.[/quote]
Look at the Q1/06 numbers, X2s never accounted for a significant portion of sales in 2005 and early 2006. So yeah, 6-7 weeks Intel has already sold within 1.5 million units of total X2s.

 

[FelixDeCat]

Dont you worry your pretty little head about Advanced Micro. They can plan to offer freebies wtih all CPUs to stay in business!

Buy one X2 chip and get a free taco!

Buy one FX chip and get a bean burrito, with a bag of chips! :shocked: :shocked: :shocked:


They need to get on the ball and do it quickly. Intel is the whole enchilada these days and that aint changin' anytime soon. You know it, I know it and the market knows it.

/thread

 

[Bobthelost]

Originally posted by: FelixDeKat
Dont you worry your pretty little head about Advanced Micro. They can plan to offer freebies wtih all CPUs to stay in business!

Buy one X2 chip and get a free taco!

Buy one FX chip and get a bean burrito, with a bag of chips! :shocked: :shocked: :shocked:


They need to get on the ball and do it quickly. Intel is the whole enchilada these days and that aint changin' anytime soon. You know it, I know it and the market knows it.

/thread

We also know that you're a rabid intel fan, who's really enjoying being on top again.

 

[Jeff7]

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Quad core this, that, sheesh. I just got a freaking Core Duo system.

- M4H

<--- Still running a single core XP2400+, so you can just shaadup.

 

[Gikaseixas]

This war is our gain, just imagine if AMD didn't rule Intel during these 2 or 3 years. The Pentium D would be coming out just now i guess. I do believe AMD will comeback strong and Intel will answer with an even more powerful chip and so on... Bring them on and keep lowering those prices.

 

[The Mailman]

this did great for my Intel stock today keep up the good work INTC, until i sell ya!

i wanted to buy AMD stock when it was at a low, but my bank ****** up and i couldnt buy anything for over a week. because of that, i dropped out and didnt buy any. i lost out on like $1300 - that woulda been nice to make up the college tuition this year...

 

[Kalessian]

Originally posted by: dexvx

Originally posted by: rudder
I don't know why someone would take glee in the fact that AMD could be in trouble. I remember the day when AMD just made intel clones and until the Athlon, Intel could charge a premium for their cpu's.

What are you smoking.

The highest price for any desktop CPU was charged by AMD, the 1Ghz Athlon was $1299 in 1000 quantities at retail.

 

[myocardia]

Originally posted by: Kalessian
What are you smoking.

The highest price for any desktop CPU was charged by AMD, the 1Ghz Athlon was $1299 in 1000 quantities at retail.

[/quote]
You obviously haven't been around long enough to have seen the prices that Intel charged, before AMD came onto the scene.

 

[ZOXXO]

Originally posted by: myocardia

Originally posted by: Kalessian
What are you smoking.

The highest price for any desktop CPU was charged by AMD, the 1Ghz Athlon was $1299 in 1000 quantities at retail.

You obviously haven't been around long enough to have seen the prices that Intel charged, before AMD came onto the scene.
[/quote]

Well, enlighten us there, old timer.

 

[dexvx]

Originally posted by: myocardia

Originally posted by: Kalessian
What are you smoking.

The highest price for any desktop CPU was charged by AMD, the 1Ghz Athlon was $1299 in 1000 quantities at retail.

You obviously haven't been around long enough to have seen the prices that Intel charged, before AMD came onto the scene.

Yes, enlighten us old timer.

For a long time, the "flagship" desktop CPU from Intel was around the $700-900 mark, with the midrange CPU's generally in the $400-600 mark. This harkens way back to the 8086 era. The Athlon 1Ghz @ $1299 was the most expensive desktop CPU in decades, literally.

 

[harpoon84]

Originally posted by: OcHungry

Originally posted by: harpoon84
The only way AMD will cease to exist is if they go BK, and the only way that will happen is if they lose a long term price war with Intel. Hopefully their directors aren't stupid enough to let that happen.

I don't think Intel wants AMD to disappear either, as long as AMD is pegged at ~20% overall marketshare Intel will be happy because they won't be considered a monopoly, plus they will continue to control the majority of the market.

I think you are dreaming and need to wake up. It's funny how you intel fans fail to realize that It's Intel that is in the verge of going BK while AMD keeps growing. Now that antitrust is in full swing the only loser is Intel.
It's also funny not to admit Intel's quad core(s) is just another PR right before AMD's K8L's true quad. So much hype for core 2 died down in less than 2 months. This one will die in less than 2 weeks.

OcHungry, tell the truth - are you Sharikou?

 

[F1shF4t]

Amd is way far from trouble. Now that their chips are used in dell machines.
Remeber the c2d and x2 sales are tiny compared to the low end sales, thats where the money is, and the semprons are still much better choice than the celerons.
If they survived during the k6 days with the awful via chipsets and before they will easily survive now.