Wouldnt a well placed bullet in the head work better?

[leftyman]

story....Although I really dont care if they suffer.

 

[KLin]

I say we go back to old sparky.

 

[TraumaRN]

Unfortunately a well placed bullet won't do it either...

I've seen patients with half their head gone and brain matter everywhere and they still will live for up to an hour...

To that end they need to use better drugs in the first place

A large dose of propofol or etomidate plus some vecuronium would be better for sedation and paralyzing.

But whatever...there truly isn't a humane way of killing someone.

 

[Flyback]

You should instead ask whether or not it's constitutional for the state to take the life of a person.

 

[pontifex]

yeah, i don't think there is ever going to be a form of execution that can kill immediately or that isn't cruel or unusual.

 

[leftyman]

Originally posted by: Flyback
You should instead ask whether or not it's constitutional for the state to take the life of a piece of garbage that doesnt think twice about taking the life of another person..

fixed.

 

[Flyback]

Originally posted by: leftyman

Originally posted by: Flyback
You should instead ask whether or not it's constitutional for the state to take the life of a piece of garbage that doesnt think twice about taking the life of another person..

fixed.

How does that change what I said? I never denied their crime.

I suspect you're getting emotional.

 

[leftyman]

Originally posted by: Flyback

Originally posted by: leftyman

Originally posted by: Flyback
You should instead ask whether or not it's constitutional for the state to take the life of a piece of garbage that doesnt think twice about taking the life of another person..

fixed.

How does that change what I said? I never denied their crime.

I suspect you're getting emotional.

not at all, it already is constitutional in my state.

 

[Flyback]

Originally posted by: leftyman

not at all, it already is constitutional in my state.

Okay, whether it should be. (Let's not play games; you know damn well what I meant.)

 

[leftyman]

Originally posted by: Flyback

Originally posted by: leftyman

not at all, it already is constitutional in my state.

Okay, whether it should be. (Let's not play games; you know damn well what I meant.)

It should be and it is.

 

[dabuddha]

How about a huge sledgehammer?

 

[Kelemvor]

I think a bullet or two to the head is great. The person is going to die. They suffer a lot more with lethal injection or electrocution than they do from a bullet to the skull. The bullet is instant, lethal injection is not. Neither is electrocution.

Plus it's far cheaper. You know things are screwed up when it costs more to put someone to death than it does to house them and feed them for years.

 

[JeffreyLebowski]

I'm a big fan of just putting them all in a pen with baseball bats with nails in them and let them all go at it. Televise it and put it on pay per view. Not only do you take care of the criminals, but you also make money to help pay for schools.

 

[vi edit]

Originally posted by: Kelemvor
I think a bullet or two to the head is great. The person is going to die. They suffer a lot more with lethal injection or electrocution than they do from a bullet to the skull. The bullet is instant, lethal injection is not. Neither is electrocution.

Plus it's far cheaper. You know things are screwed up when it costs more to put someone to death than it does to house them and feed them for years.

As has been said, a bullet to the head isn't a sure thing for a quick death. DeathBUA works in an ED and has seen people come in with half their head missing and are still alive. My wife has seen similar things where people have lost half their brainmatter and are still *technically* living.

 

[911paramedic]

Massive dose of IV heroin, problem solved. No pain, you just sit back and watch them turn blue and then a nice pale color.

Seen many heroin deaths, and revived lots of users that overdosed. They wake up not knowing what happened...so no suffering.

Or we build "The Cube" and throw all the lawyers in there.

 

[leftyman]

why not a guillotine? Its fast and effective.

 

[Raduque]

Originally posted by: Kelemvor
I think a bullet or two to the head is great. The person is going to die. They suffer a lot more with lethal injection or electrocution than they do from a bullet to the skull. The bullet is instant, lethal injection is not. Neither is electrocution.

Plus it's far cheaper. You know things are screwed up when it costs more to put someone to death than it does to house them and feed them for years.

Actually, I've heard unless there's some kind of allergy or immunity to one of the drugs, lethal injection is far more painless then most try to make it.

IMO, though, a convicted killer doesn't deserve a painless death. Electrocute them dry, hang 'em and let 'em strangle (instead of breaking the neck), or fvck it just starve them to death.

 

[vi edit]

Originally posted by: 911paramedic
Massive dose of IV heroin, problem solved. No pain, you just sit back and watch them turn blue and then a nice pale color.

Seen many heroin deaths, and revived lots of users that overdosed. They wake up not knowing what happened...so no suffering.

Or we build "The Cube" and throw all the lawyers in there.

Doesn't an opiate overdose essentially make people suffocate? Basically your lungs just stop working and you can't get air? Hence the purple color?

 

[TraumaRN]

Originally posted by: vi_edit

Originally posted by: Kelemvor
I think a bullet or two to the head is great. The person is going to die. They suffer a lot more with lethal injection or electrocution than they do from a bullet to the skull. The bullet is instant, lethal injection is not. Neither is electrocution.

Plus it's far cheaper. You know things are screwed up when it costs more to put someone to death than it does to house them and feed them for years.

As has been said, a bullet to the head isn't a sure thing for a quick death. DeathBUA works in an ED and has seen people come in with half their head missing and are still alive. My wife has seen similar things where people have lost half their brainmatter and are still *technically* living.

Yup yup and yup!

Originally posted by: 911paramedic
Massive dose of IV heroin, problem solved. No pain, you just sit back and watch them turn blue and then a nice pale color.

Seen many heroin deaths, and revived lots of users that overdosed. They wake up not knowing what happened...so no suffering.

Or we build "The Cube" and throw all the lawyers in there.

Just lace that heroin with 100micrograms of fentanyl for even faster results

They'll be down before they can finish pushing the plunger!

 

[pontifex]

Originally posted by: leftyman
why not a guillotine? Its fast and effective.

but its cruel and unusual

 

[leftyman]

Originally posted by: pontifex

Originally posted by: leftyman
why not a guillotine? Its fast and effective.

but its cruel and unusual

how?

 

[TraumaRN]

Originally posted by: vi_edit

Originally posted by: 911paramedic
Massive dose of IV heroin, problem solved. No pain, you just sit back and watch them turn blue and then a nice pale color.

Seen many heroin deaths, and revived lots of users that overdosed. They wake up not knowing what happened...so no suffering.

Or we build "The Cube" and throw all the lawyers in there.

Doesn't an opiate overdose essentially make people suffocate? Basically your lungs just stop working and you can't get air? Hence the purple color?

Yes....but it can also stop your heart...but that depends on alot of factors

But you will slowly suffocate...but you won't realize it. 911paramedic is right, when we bring heroin users back from the pearly gates with Narcan they generally have NO clue what happened to them usually for hours.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: leftyman
why not a guillotine? Its fast and effective.

Exactly, absolutely no doubt dead and fast.

 

[Kelemvor]

It all comes down to the pansy attitude of not hurting the person that you can KILLING.

THe only reason they are being killed is because they did something so heinous that it was decided they have forfeited their right to live. Why on earth do people then care if they die a painless death or not. I'm sure the people they killed or raped or whatever didn't have a painless time with them. I say to kill them in whatever is the cheapest way to get them off the books and not costing the taxpayers any more money.

If it takes them longer to die, too bad. They should have though of that before they did whatever they did to get sentences to death in the first place.

Guillotine works great in my book. Firing squad. Bullet to the forehead or up through the chin. If they live, then shoot them again. Bullets are cheap.

Or hell, give them a thrill while they die. Throw them out of a plane with no parachute. Then if they live through it, have someone waiting on the ground with a shotgun.

 

[pontifex]

Originally posted by: leftyman

Originally posted by: pontifex

Originally posted by: leftyman
why not a guillotine? Its fast and effective.

but its cruel and unusual

how?

well it must be if it isn't doen anymore...dismembering, causing pain...

i'm all for corporal punishment btw