would you voluntarily work on a project that was for work

Fullmetal Chocobo

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Just wondering. I've been working on a project on my own time, and I probably won't get anything for it. And I was just wondering if anyone else would do the same at their work, in their off time.
 

Kelemvor

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Depends if I really liked my job and was really interetsed in whatever the project was.
 

Armitage

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Of course. I always have a side project or two. A few of them have then gone on to get funding & support.
 

DaShen

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I did that once. Trust me. It isn't a good idea. It will start off as a small side project, but if it is you boss it will escalate into something that takes up all your time. I guarantee.
 

altonb1

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NOPE!!! Either comp my time, pay me, or wait for me to work on it in the office. My time is more valuable than free.
 

Jfrag Teh Foul

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Depends on if the terms of my employment include...

A. Salary pay
B. The terms of my contract including the phrase "other duties as assigned".

And there you have it.
 

Armitage

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Originally posted by: DaShen
I did that once. Trust me. It isn't a good idea. It will start off as a small side project, but if it is you boss it will escalate into something that takes up all your time. I guarantee.

So what's wrong with that? That's the whole idea actually - if it's something interesting & fun enough to work on it on the side, then it would be great to have it turn into my full time job.

I don't go to work just to take home a paycheck. Life is to short to spend that much time doing something just for a paycheck.
 

Gunslinger08

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Originally posted by: Armitage
Originally posted by: DaShen
I did that once. Trust me. It isn't a good idea. It will start off as a small side project, but if it is you boss it will escalate into something that takes up all your time. I guarantee.

So what's wrong with that? That's the whole idea actually - if it's something interesting & fun enough to work on it on the side, then it would be great to have it turn into my full time job.

I don't go to work just to take home a paycheck. Life is to short to spend that much time doing something just for a paycheck.

You must really love your job if you want to do it for free, during your own time, when you could be with your friends and family or pursuing another interest.
 

pontifex

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Never volunteer.

You never ever volunteered. Not even if a sergant stood there and said, "We need someone to drink alcohol, bottles of, and make love, passionate, to women, for the use of." There was always a snag. If a choir of angels asked for volunteers for Paradise to step forward, you knew enough to take one smart pace to the rear.

that quote doesn't seem like the one i was looking for, but kind of gets the point across
 

lozina

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hell no. one reason is i'd be afraid they'd expect more 'volunterrism' in the future.

the way I see it, life is too short already, so unless you REALLY ENJOY that task you do at home, it's better spending that time with your friends or family or just enjoying yourself.
 

Descartes

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I used to do it all the time when I was younger, and it paid off extremely well in the end.

Sometimes that's the only way to get your foot in the door. People don't often just throw opportunities in your lap, so if you see one sometimes you just have to do it and ask for forgiveness later. I think this is especially important earlier in someone's career. It's often hard to get experience, because those with experience tend not to be all that accepting of those without; it's a bit of a catch-22. If you see something you think that could benefit your team, the company, or anything else... just do it. You'll get notoriety, experience, and respect.
 

Armitage

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Originally posted by: joshsquall
Originally posted by: Armitage
Originally posted by: DaShen
I did that once. Trust me. It isn't a good idea. It will start off as a small side project, but if it is you boss it will escalate into something that takes up all your time. I guarantee.

So what's wrong with that? That's the whole idea actually - if it's something interesting & fun enough to work on it on the side, then it would be great to have it turn into my full time job.

I don't go to work just to take home a paycheck. Life is to short to spend that much time doing something just for a paycheck.

You must really love your job if you want to do it for free, during your own time, when you could be with your friends and family or pursuing another interest.

Shrug - I spend plenty of time with my family. Probably more then most.

But instead of turning on the TV or the video games after the kids are in bed, i'm more likely to do some work on one of my projects. Probably doesn't amount to more then a few hours a week tops. I do really enjoy my work, and these side projects help advance my career - which as I said, is more then just a paycheck.
 

NaOH

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Originally posted by: Armitage
Originally posted by: DaShen
I did that once. Trust me. It isn't a good idea. It will start off as a small side project, but if it is you boss it will escalate into something that takes up all your time. I guarantee.

So what's wrong with that? That's the whole idea actually - if it's something interesting & fun enough to work on it on the side, then it would be great to have it turn into my full time job.

I don't go to work just to take home a paycheck. Life is to short to spend that much time doing something just for a paycheck.


Life is too short not to spend it with family and friends....not a job that doesn't love you

I picked yes btw....If I'm immersed in a project I will continue it at home. But not usually.
Usually I have PLENTY of time to finish things AT work.
 

Armitage

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Originally posted by: Descartes
I used to do it all the time when I was younger, and it paid off extremely well in the end.

Sometimes that's the only way to get your foot in the door. People don't often just throw opportunities in your lap, so if you see one sometimes you just have to do it and ask for forgiveness later. I think this is especially important earlier in someone's career. It's often hard to get experience, because those with experience tend not to be all that accepting of those without; it's a bit of a catch-22. If you see something you think that could benefit your team, the company, or anything else... just do it. You'll get notoriety, experience, and respect.

Yep - that's exactly what I mean. You create opportunities for yourself.
 

DaShen

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Originally posted by: Armitage
Originally posted by: DaShen
I did that once. Trust me. It isn't a good idea. It will start off as a small side project, but if it is you boss it will escalate into something that takes up all your time. I guarantee.

So what's wrong with that? That's the whole idea actually - if it's something interesting & fun enough to work on it on the side, then it would be great to have it turn into my full time job.

I don't go to work just to take home a paycheck. Life is to short to spend that much time doing something just for a paycheck.

THere is nothing wrong with that, but have you ever taken a project outside of work, Armitage? I didn't think it was a big deal to take it. It seemed like fun and it was doing a good deed. It was helping a charity organization that some people in my department are active in. By the end of the project, I was pulling in about 3-4 hours after work everyday (approx 25 hours a week), setting up systems and building an applications, that was supposed to be small in the first place.

I guarantee, it is not a good idea. If you did work on the side, you may understand. But there is too much chance for the people or person to take advantage of the free work, that it can become a sticky situation.

Don't do it, unless it is something that is highly recognizable by the whole company. In other worfds, if it gives you recognition, then it will be good for your job. If not, it will become a burden, no matter how awesome the work is at first, you will eventually become overworked.
 

DaShen

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Originally posted by: AMDUALY
Life is too short not to spend it with family and friends....not a job that doesn't love you

I picked yes btw....If I'm immersed in a project I will continue it at home. But not usually.
Usually I have PLENTY of time to finish things AT work.

QFT. But I think the OP is asking about something that is voluntary and not part of the actual job. If it is a one time thing, like planning or volunteering for an event, definitely do it. It build teamwork and has people see you as dependable. If it is a long term commitment, run unless it is highly recognized by the company.

I am volunteering for the MS150 in a week. I am not riding this year because they needed volunteers, and I will ride the other charity MS150 rides outside my city/state. Event volunteering is easy and fun. Longterm commitments become a huge hassle on time, and if it is someone in authority overseeing it, you will more likely get coerced into doing a huge amount of work.
 

Armitage

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Originally posted by: DaShen
Originally posted by: Armitage
Originally posted by: DaShen
I did that once. Trust me. It isn't a good idea. It will start off as a small side project, but if it is you boss it will escalate into something that takes up all your time. I guarantee.

So what's wrong with that? That's the whole idea actually - if it's something interesting & fun enough to work on it on the side, then it would be great to have it turn into my full time job.

I don't go to work just to take home a paycheck. Life is to short to spend that much time doing something just for a paycheck.

THere is nothing wrong with that, but have you ever taken a project outside of work, Armitage? I didn't think it was a big deal to take it. It seemed like fun and it was doing a good deed. It was helping a charity organization that some people in my department are active in. By the end of the project, I was pulling in about 3-4 hours after work everyday (approx 25 hours a week), setting up systems and building an applications, that was supposed to be small in the first place.

I guarantee, it is not a good idea. If you did work on the side, you may understand. But there is too much chance for the people or person to take advantage of the free work, that it can become a sticky situation.

Don't do it, unless it is something that is highly recognizable by the whole company. In other worfds, if it gives you recognition, then it will be good for your job. If not, it will become a burden, no matter how awesome the work is at first, you will eventually become overworked.

I guess we're talking about different things. I'm not really volunteering for things that are part of the job but aren't getting done. More like new ideas & research, or side projects related to stuff at work. Sometimes it's just teaching myself something new. If it works out and shows promise I'll put in for some IR&D funding or propose it to our customers. Then it becomes part of my job & done on company time. At this time nearly all of my current work originated with projects that were initiated along these lines. You make a name for yourself within your company & field and people start coming to you with ideas, funding, etc.

If they don't bite, maybe I'll publish it and get a ride to a conference somewhere fun - unfortunately I don't have my current work ready to meet the deadline for the Maui conference in Sept. :(

It's much more fun & interesting then working on whatever crud my boss digs up on his own and sends my way.