would you take bulky if it had much better specs?

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Probably not anything that thick. But look at the iPhone 5. Thinner than the iPhone 4, but if they had kept the same thickness they could have slipped in a reasonably larger battery.

Or there is the Motorola Droid Maxx, I think that sort of thing is a good compromise, and isn't it supposed to get all day battery life?
 

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Probably not anything that thick. But look at the iPhone 5. Thinner than the iPhone 4, but if they had kept the same thickness they could have slipped in a reasonably larger battery.

Or there is the Motorola Droid Maxx, I think that sort of thing is a good compromise, and isn't it supposed to get all day battery life?

i dont think it gets all day battery life if you were using it constantly. my razr didnt get anywhere near half a day so even if razr maxx is twice as good it wouldnt give you an entire day
 
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No, that thing looks horrible.

For times I need the extra juice, like when I'm traveling, I'd take an external USB charging pack. For everyday use though, I'd want something much, much smaller.
 

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A phone doesn't have to look like that at all to achieve 3 days battery life. The Razr Maxx has shown us that they can do it, but for whatever reason they just don't.
 

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Probably not anything that thick. But look at the iPhone 5. Thinner than the iPhone 4, but if they had kept the same thickness they could have slipped in a reasonably larger battery.

Apple has painted themselves into a corner with the iPhone 5. Making it thinner and lighter is nice and all, but I wonder if they had thought of the compromises that would entail. For example, as you mentioned, thinner means less space for a battery. Thinner also means they might find it harder to spin their way out of the expectation that the next iPhone will be just as thin or even thinner than before.

Making it lighter is also nice, but that aluminum body is relatively soft and easy to scratch up, dent and even nick. I think I read an article on GSMArena that compared a 4S to the 5, and the 5 looked like hell despite being newer than the 4S (neither had case nor film protection). I really hope that Apple uses a harder aluminum, or goes back to steel/glass.
 
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Apple has painted themselves into a corner with the iPhone 5. Making it thinner and lighter is nice and all, but I wonder if they had thought of the compromises that would entail. For example, as you mentioned, thinner means less space for a battery. Thinner also means they might find it harder to spin their way out of the expectation that the next iPhone will be just as thin or even thinner than before.

Making it lighter is also nice, but that aluminum body is relatively soft and easy to scratch up, dent and even nick. I think I read an article on GSMArena that compared a 4S to the 5, and the 5 looked like hell despite being newer than the 4S (neither had case nor film protection). I really hope that Apple uses a harder aluminum, or goes back to steel/glass.

cheap, replaceable backings are the best imo
 

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i dont think it gets all day battery life if you were using it constantly. my razr didnt get anywhere near half a day so even if razr maxx is twice as good it wouldnt give you an entire day

Razr Maxx HD is well over twice the battery life(three times is probably closer) of the original Droid Razr due to a combination of significantly greater battery capacity and significantly more efficient system on a chip and cellular radios.

I can stream Pandora for 9 hours and not use half my battery or web browse with over 8 hours of screen on time(not total screen on time for the day(which can be much greater) just screen on time from web browsing) with 4G LTE on the entire time. It can game a lot longer than it can web browse too.

It is not realistic to make the phone run dead in a single day. It is possible but that would mean your entire day would be sitting down and playing on your phone literally nonstop for like 10 hours straight without having access to a charger.

tldr: Very thin powerful phones with all day battery life have existed for a while now. Samsung(except for the Note 2), HTC, and Apple don't make them. It's pretty safe to expect Moto's next Droid Razr HD will just be a Galaxy S4 spec device with a 3300mAh battery.
 

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Yep. If it looked like the reference model I wouldn't, but if I could get a phone with 14-16 hours 3G streaming, I'd be happy to have a thicker battery.

Beyond that point a slightly longer battery life is pretty much inconsequential to me, until you start to hit 4-5 days between charges and with the current state of battery technology, I wouldn't make that size/life compromise yet.
 

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While I fully agree, I don't think Apple has the flexibility to switch back to a cheap plastic backing without their investors going berserk (once again, painting themselves into a corner).

I'm not saying that this would excuse them to do so, but when was the last time that Apple did anything (or nothing) and the investors DIDN'T go berserk?
 

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No, because there are accessories to accomplish this. So I can have a thin product, and extra battery life when I want. That's better being forced to use a brick all the time.
 

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I think there's plenty of room between the 6mm waif thin Huawei models and the Qualcomm MDP samples for several levels of compromise.
 

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I would rather have it half the size and half the battery life. As long as I could get a solid full day of doing anything on it then that would be enough for me. It's not a big deal for me to plug it in overnight so 3 days of juice isn't a must for me.
 
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I'd like for Google to look at software improvements rather than relying on hardware. I said this regarding UI fluidity, and I say it for battery life too. It's possible to achieve a smooth UI and good battery as its been done already. Stop going with brute force specs to achieve something that should be doable already.
 

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Razr Maxx HD is well over twice the battery life(three times is probably closer) of the original Droid Razr due to a combination of significantly greater battery capacity and significantly more efficient system on a chip and cellular radios.

I can stream Pandora for 9 hours and not use half my battery or web browse with over 8 hours of screen on time(not total screen on time for the day(which can be much greater) just screen on time from web browsing) with 4G LTE on the entire time. It can game a lot longer than it can web browse too.

It is not realistic to make the phone run dead in a single day. It is possible but that would mean your entire day would be sitting down and playing on your phone literally nonstop for like 10 hours straight without having access to a charger.

tldr: Very thin powerful phones with all day battery life have existed for a while now. Samsung(except for the Note 2), HTC, and Apple don't make them. It's pretty safe to expect Moto's next Droid Razr HD will just be a Galaxy S4 spec device with a 3300mAh battery.

This. I have never even come close to killing my Maxx HD in a single day. I normally go two-three days easy.
 

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Hey mostly phone's battery is working for whole day ,but if you are working more by your phone then battery will finish quick but if you will not use more then mostly battery become not empty till 3 days.
 

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It doesn't surprise me people disagree about battery life with phones.
It's pretty clear- some people walk around all day with every single radio and gimmick OEM feature turned on even when they don't use them (battery drain) use crap quality mSD cards (most don't realize it, but battery drain) screen on auto/full brightness whenever its on (battery drain) run bloated stock with who-knows-what running at all times (battery drain) misuse task managers because they think Android works like Windows (can be a batter drain) have every single screen touch and keypress set to trigger both sounds and vibration (major battery drain) have settings so the phone never deep sleeps (battery drain) overload with POS software that synchs and pushes data constantly... take that half-hour on the crapper FPS break every day... don't use built-in battery saving modes when effective... and on and on and on.

So of course, mileage will vary. Like crazy.
 

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There's no need for a smart phone to be THAT bulky and thick. A current generation quadcore with a 3000-4000 mahr battery would pretty much handle 2-4 days of light to average use and one really heavy day. With phones reaching 5 inches there is enough room LxW that even a big battery doesn't have to add much to the thickness.

The problem is phone makers are constantly being told to make them thinner and they have complied to the point that many phones have to be recharged during the day most days. Interesting that while most of the industry is going too far in the thin direction this company is going too far the other way. 10mm folks ... 10mm...


Brian
 

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I have a GS3 with the oversized Zerolemon battery, so I'm willing to go bulky for battery life. Probably not that bulky though. The ZL battery makes it about as thick as a Droid Bionic with the extended battery, which is not too bad... (Still thicker than most of the phones coming out now with integrated batteries).
 

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absolutely not and several vendors have already shown that 3000ma batteries can be provided in relatively thin/small housing.