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Would you support raising the driving age to 18?

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Originally posted by: Killerme33
Originally posted by: Black88GTA
Originally posted by: Googer
I would keep it at 16 only for strieght A students, all others will have to wait untill they are 18.
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I disagree. The grades you make in school have nothing to do with your driving skills (or lack thereof). I knew plenty of straight A students who were the most miserable drivers you ever saw - and, on the other end of the stick, some near-dropouts who were very skilled drivers.
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I don't think he was talking about pure driving ability, more about overall intelligence. The drop-outs are gonna be the ones doing 60MPH in a residentual neighborhood, not the straight A ones.
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Grades have nothing to do w/ driving. Maybe they'll stay more w/in the speed limits, but that's only a small problem.. there are plenty of people who speed. There are waaaay too many people who just don't have any common sense when driving. And to be frankly honest, I've noticed the smarter you are, the less you have of it (in general). Yes, that is a huge generalization, but I've seen quite a bit of it.

But regardless, I voted yes, but I'm more inclined towards some kind of intensive driving lessons from 16. The driving test is too much of a joke here. I think a driver needs to go through something like an autocross to get a feel of how their car responds... then add in some defensive driving requirements.

 
Sure! Any not lower the drinking age to 16 like the Germans? Let the kiddies get smashed for two years before getting their license.

Oh, and we should force one entire year of driver's ed as well as charge $1000 to get the license.
 
No.....its not the age that effects whether or not the drivers cause accidents....its the maturity and responsibility of the person driving.....
Plus how would i get to work if i couldnt drive.....
 
Originally posted by: JLGatsby
You're not using logic.

Some would be able to find rides and make older friends, but overall, the number of incidents is going to go down if you cut off some 16 year olds access to transportation.

Overall it would be more difficult to find trouble.

You make it sound like I'm implying juvenile deliquency would be completely eliminated, no. But it would go down.

And 16 year olds don't go out looking for trouble? Hanging out during all hours of the night? LMAO How old are you?
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Neither are you. How does raising the driving age solve this problem? It's doesn't address the issue, it's just a bad work around that forces those that have no problem to suffer along with those that MIGHT be targetted if such a law were implemented (and I don't think this is exactly what lawmakers have in mind).

You should be taking issue on the parents that don't keep track of their deliquent, rabble-rousing adolescents. The government shouldn't legislate to replace their lack of guidance.

EDIT: All that being said, I am in favor of raising the driving age just because I think that the percentage of immature kids unable to handle the responsibilities of driving, and it's consequences, is a lot higher percentage than those above.
 
they should definitely ban <19 from driving and talking on a cell phone at the same time (i know it would be harder to enforce unless they applied this ban to everybody which I am also okay with)...

what is really sad is that you would probably have to include 'texting' while driving as well...i am willing to bet that alot of <19 drive and 'text' at the same time...
 
No.
The driving age should not be 18.
How the hell are 16 or 17 year olds going to get from school to their job?

Not everyone has the option for public transportation.
Not everyone can bum a ride from their parents.
Not everyone can get a job within walking distance from school & home.

 
16 is fine if the tests are more stringent and the penalty for 1 moving violation for those under 18 is suspension of driving privileges until they are 21.
 
No, I don't think age is as much of a factor as inexperience. In the end you would just end up with a older group on inexperienced drivers.
 
Originally posted by: JLGatsby
You people are missing an important point.

It's not about driving badly, it's about 16 year olds roaming the streets looking for trouble, partying, drinking, etc.

That certainly wouldn't eliminate it, nothing will, but it would cut down the bad behavior.
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You are so correct.

Just the other day I was driving around minding my own business when these 16 and 17 year old punk motherfvckers came belting down the road in a huge honking SUV screaming at random passerby's, they raped every tolerable woman in sight, stole candy straight out of babies' mouths, and pillaged all the stores in sight. It was horrible I tell you, horrible.

Asshat. :roll:
 
Originally posted by: amicold
Originally posted by: JLGatsby
You people are missing an important point.

It's not about driving badly, it's about 16 year olds roaming the streets looking for trouble, partying, drinking, etc.

That certainly wouldn't eliminate it, nothing will, but it would cut down the bad behavior.
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You are so correct.

Just the other day I was driving around minding my own business when these 16 and 17 year old punk motherfvckers came belting down the road in a huge honking SUV screaming at random passerby's, they raped every tolerable woman in sight, stole candy straight out of babies' mouths, and pillaged all the stores in sight. It was horrible I tell you, horrible.

Asshat. :roll:
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lmao...funny guy....:laugh:
 
Yes. What I would actually like to see is all the "age of majority" issues (driving, alcohol, military, voting, criminal justice, etc.) moved to the age of 19 along with a prohibition against anyone 19 or older attending a high school as a student.
 
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
16 is fine if the tests are more stringent and the penalty for 1 moving violation for those under 18 is suspension of driving privileges until they are 21.
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i think that would certainly help with some of the problems. at 16 i didn't really have a concept of how much trouble i could get into with driving like an idiot. i'm sure i did things in a car i wouldn't dream of now.

i wonder if part of the problem is parents not properly teaching kids how to drive before putting them behind the wheel of a car. they don't want to drive them around, so they hand them the keys. the test isn't hard to pass (obviously) and so you have kids with no clue how to drive on the road. add in the fact that the penalties aren't stringent enough, and you've got issues!
 
Originally posted by: Vic
Yes. What I would actually like to see is all the "age of majority" issues (driving, alcohol, military, voting, criminal justice, etc.) moved to the age of 19 along with a prohibition against anyone 19 or older attending a high school as a student.
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I agree with tis entirely. I know you asked this on AT and many people are young around here and wouldn't want to see the drving age raised, but lets face it - there is a bog difference in maturtity between 16 and 18.- Go ask any highschool teacher or parent.
 
Originally posted by: amicold
Originally posted by: JLGatsby
You people are missing an important point.

It's not about driving badly, it's about 16 year olds roaming the streets looking for trouble, partying, drinking, etc.

That certainly wouldn't eliminate it, nothing will, but it would cut down the bad behavior.
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You are so correct.

Just the other day I was driving around minding my own business when these 16 and 17 year old punk motherfvckers came belting down the road in a huge honking SUV screaming at random passerby's, they raped every tolerable woman in sight, stole candy straight out of babies' mouths, and pillaged all the stores in sight. It was horrible I tell you, horrible.

Asshat. :roll:
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BUAHAHA ROFL.....WTFBBQ
 
I try to avoid making sweeping judgements of any age group just because I know how badly I have been treated by the same judgements. I'll have my first morgage before I can legally buy my first case of beer :thumbsdown:

I'm a goddamn second class citizen because of some integer that has nothing to do with my maturity, my career, my bachelors degree or anything else for that matter 🙁
 
I had friends who wasted a lot of time because they drove when they were 16. Got into trouble and such. He works at albertsons and bought 4 cars with his salary......such a waste....
 
Originally posted by: JACKHAMMER
Originally posted by: Vic
Yes. What I would actually like to see is all the "age of majority" issues (driving, alcohol, military, voting, criminal justice, etc.) moved to the age of 19 along with a prohibition against anyone 19 or older attending a high school as a student.
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I agree with tis entirely. I know you asked this on AT and many people are young around here and wouldn't want to see the drving age raised, but lets face it - there is a bog difference in maturtity between 16 and 18.- Go ask any highschool teacher or parent.
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And 500 years ago, 18 year olds were household heads. The more ages keep getting raised, the more assinine behavior you see out of older and older people. I'd actually be in favor of more responsiblity earlier rather than the coddling, handholding and spoiling most kids get these days
 
Originally posted by: Acanthus
yes, the vast majority of accidents are caused by people under 18 who arent mature enough to properly handle driving a vehicle.
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The drunk driver that pulled in front on me and totaled my car and injured my son was grandfather. I didn't ask but I doubt he was under 18. Try again.
 
Heck no. Parents need to just teach their kids responsibility. Where I come from, a drivers liscense any older than 16 would actually hurt some of our farmers, and the economy. When I think about how useful my liscense was for me between 16 and 18, I can't imagine not having it until I was 18. That would've made me a freshman in college.
 
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
16 is fine if the tests are more stringent and the penalty for 1 moving violation for those under 18 is suspension of driving privileges until they are 21.
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Okay I'll buy this as long as everyone that gets a moving violation gets a four year suspension. Let's be fair about it.
 
Not sure about changing the driving age, but i agree with ZV about making the test much more difficult. A 70 should not be passing either.
 
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