Schadenfroh
Elite Member
curious to see if you all support the pure form of capitalism
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Would you support a pure capitalist economy
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jjzelinski
Diamond Member
nope
The rapid increase you would see in polarity would lead to crime and political instability.
(Arguably) The first Welfare State was created by Bismark in Germany in the late 1800s. He was hardly a bleeding heart. He did it in order to buy the consent of the proletariat, dissuading them from revolution.
(Arguably) The first Welfare State was created by Bismark in Germany in the late 1800s. He was hardly a bleeding heart. He did it in order to buy the consent of the proletariat, dissuading them from revolution.
judasmachine
Diamond Member
The hoarding of wealth in our society is near out of control as is. Not as bad as it has been in the past though. But we'd find ourselves in the open conflict stages of classwar.
This is what I have been thinking lately too. I mean, when I see a toll booth operator making $25-30/hr for sitting on a chair and watching people pass by (they don't even count the fsckign change they collect!) I think that that's the price upper classes have to pay for him to stay there, instead of taking a gun and going after them.
unfair? absurd? Oh yeah, but much like the whole concept of property ownership, it works, so we use it.
It would be an interesting experiment to drop a few billion diseased monkeys on a planet and see what kinds of gyrations they go through. I can see personal capitalism starting first where the physically strongest take what they want then the mentally strongest organizing to create power groups to take from the physically strongest then all sorts of competition among groups with the rise of governments race and religious groups all struggling to for a piece of the action. I could see such an experiment rising and falling and rising and falling over and over again till the planet itself was finished off or somebody noticed the disease and found a cure.
No.
We came close to that in the 19th century and even in era leading up to the Great depression.
A good middle class can NOT exist under a purely capitalistic economy nor a purely communistic society.
A moderate BALANCE of free enterprise and government intervention (especially the legal right for people to act collectively) is NECESSARY for a good middle class.
Again we are talking about human nature....not book theory.
We came close to that in the 19th century and even in era leading up to the Great depression.
A good middle class can NOT exist under a purely capitalistic economy nor a purely communistic society.
A moderate BALANCE of free enterprise and government intervention (especially the legal right for people to act collectively) is NECESSARY for a good middle class.
Again we are talking about human nature....not book theory.
Spencer278
Diamond Member
Which in a pure capitilistic economy wouldn't be possible. How did you get thru high school? I assume since you didn't want any of that goverment money you didn't attend public school right? I also will assume that your going to a private college which run around 30 grand a year. What kind of a job allows a college student to make 30K will still going to college. I also hope that you don't use any roads because the goverment paid for them to.
The pure capitalist economy starts to look even nicer when for your parents to keep their job you will also be required to work 80 hours a week. Don't plan on moving because your employer owns the roads and your in dedt to him and oh yeah if you do quit you will be black listed.
0marTheZealot
Golden Member
Pure capitailism is doomed to failure. It requires infinite growth. So as long as the economy grows 3-5% each year, capatailism is happy. The moment growth stops (and it will), the entire system collapses.
And most of us here would be working 80-100 hour work weeks in a menial job with almost no hope of advancement. Beowulf, you wouldn't even have gone to high school, because you'd be too busy working in an assembly line. There are no government regulations regarding the economy afterall, and child labor falls under that. The polarization between rich and poor (read Rockafeller and the common man) grows even more disparate. Forget enjoying anything, you'd be too tired to even get up the next day, but you need the money to stay in your apartment.
Pure capatailism is just as bad as pure socialism.
And most of us here would be working 80-100 hour work weeks in a menial job with almost no hope of advancement. Beowulf, you wouldn't even have gone to high school, because you'd be too busy working in an assembly line. There are no government regulations regarding the economy afterall, and child labor falls under that. The polarization between rich and poor (read Rockafeller and the common man) grows even more disparate. Forget enjoying anything, you'd be too tired to even get up the next day, but you need the money to stay in your apartment.
Pure capatailism is just as bad as pure socialism.
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