Would you pay Google to NOT track/profile you?

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worth paying google $5/quarter, $20/year?

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Oyeve

Lifer
Oct 18, 1999
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Hard to say. Google is involved in a little bit of everything, but I'll give a few substitutions...

Search - DuckDuckGo. Without cost, but doesn't track you in any way. Privacy is what they're about.

Email - Lavabit. They don't scan your email for keywords, and they have server side encryption. Alternately, you can run your own email server.

Browser - Firefox. Libre software, and you can tell exactly what they're doing by looking at the code.

Office Collaboration - Run your own server using libre software. I don't know the particulars as I don't use it.

Social networking - Diaspora. Gratis and libre. You control your data.

You really believe any of this shit actually protects you? Once you are connected nothing protects you.
 

lxskllr

No Lifer
Nov 30, 2004
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You really believe any of this shit actually protects you? Once you are connected nothing protects you.

Depends on how well you want to stay hidden. It absolutely will keep you from getting tracked, and still remain convenient. If you want to add complexity/absolute anonymity, you can use Tor, or I2p. By doing that you lose the convenience.
 

Miramonti

Lifer
Aug 26, 2000
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That's a browser extension that blocks a lot of scripts and cookies from many companies. The privacy isn't absolute, but it goes a long way towards that goal. Everything's a trade off between convenience and security. There's much more anonymous ways to use the web, but things get really slow, and you lose a lot of features.

Interesting, test running it now. :)

You come to a forum, post on a fake name, then claim that using a fake name like jjsole is shallow.
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Hotlink errors can minimize the full impact of one's insults. ;)
 

Blackjack200

Lifer
May 28, 2007
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Google has a great product set, but I don't want to trade my privacy for it anymore. I'd be willing to pay $10 - $20 a month no problem if I could use all their services with complete privacy. They would never allow it however, they make far more than that tracking us. I really feel like I'm going to need to find new tools, and it's gonna be a PITA.
 

Red Squirrel

No Lifer
May 24, 2003
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I would consider it, not sure if I'd actually do it. Though they actually should offer that as an option as I bet lot of people would pay for it. Basically as long as you are logged in, all your info would not be recorded if you are paying for that option. I would maybe pay, and use some of the money I get from adsense to cover it.
 
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I wouldn't do it. Google tracking me for the mundane shit I search on google is something I simply do not care about.

Privacy matters, but in terms of google searches, who the fuck cares. Its essentially my payment to use their extremely excellent services and the impact of it is more personalized search results.

Win win.
 

drebo

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Feb 24, 2006
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Depends on how well you want to stay hidden. It absolutely will keep you from getting tracked, and still remain convenient. If you want to add complexity/absolute anonymity, you can use Tor, or I2p. By doing that you lose the convenience.

Except that unless you run everything over an encrypted tunnel, your ISP still knows exactly what you're doing. And, even then, they may have an SSL tunnel that still knows exactly what you're doing.

Wise men don't use the Internet for anything they wouldn't mind explaining infront of a judge or a jury...in which case, who the fuck cares if Google knows that you searched for dirty women's underwear yesterday?
 

lxskllr

No Lifer
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Except that unless you run everything over an encrypted tunnel, your ISP still knows exactly what you're doing. And, even then, they may have an SSL tunnel that still knows exactly what you're doing.

I2p uses end to end encryption as long as you stay within the I2p network. If you want to browse the greater web, you'd have to add on to the I2p scheme. I haven't given it enough thought to figure out the exact protocol necessary.

LOL at the paranoid idiots here.

An idiot...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_hDDsidy-o&t=1m40s

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ShawnD1

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May 24, 2003
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LOL at the paranoid idiots here.
You should be paranoid about using your real name. Seriously. That would suck if you missed a job opportunity because they googled your name and found pictures of you being a retard.

I wouldn't be too worried about google stalking me. Why does it matter if they know I like big asses? Them knowing that will not cost me a job.
 

skyking

Lifer
Nov 21, 2001
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Thanks man. I have been lax about this stuff, simply being lazy. I used "add to search bar" to make DDG my search tool, and installed ghostery.
I do have a gmail account to contend with.
 

Ben90

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Jun 14, 2009
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You should be paranoid about using your real name. Seriously. That would suck if you missed a job opportunity because they googled your name and found pictures of you being a retard.

I wouldn't be too worried about google stalking me. Why does it matter if they know I like big asses? Them knowing that will not cost me a job.

Benjamin Tyler Bernier is my full name.
 

LOL_Wut_Axel

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I2p uses end to end encryption as long as you stay within the I2p network. If you want to browse the greater web, you'd have to add on to the I2p scheme. I haven't given it enough thought to figure out the exact protocol necessary.



An idiot...

Says a guy that actully thinks Google gives a fuck about what you do. You're not nearly important enough for any large corporation to care about you.

People are throwing a hissy fit now when it was being done before and, as expected, nothing happened. Stop cowering over nothing.
 

lxskllr

No Lifer
Nov 30, 2004
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Says a guy that actully thinks Google gives a fuck about what you do. You're not nearly important enough for any large corporation to care about you.

People are throwing a hissy fit now when it was being done before and, as expected, nothing happened. Stop cowering over nothing.

Maybe you should apprise yourself of the facts, and look deeper than the micro-thin surface you're fixated on. Here's a big hint to get you started. The issue isn't Google...
 

Miramonti

Lifer
Aug 26, 2000
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Says a guy that actully thinks Google gives a fuck about what you do. You're not nearly important enough for any large corporation to care about you.

People are throwing a hissy fit now when it was being done before and, as expected, nothing happened. Stop cowering over nothing.

Drama queen much?
 

Golgatha

Lifer
Jul 18, 2003
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What a stupid question. That's like asking if I would pay $20 for some dude to not-rape my wife. I can not-rape my own wife, thank you very much.

If you don't want them knowing stuff, stop posting stuff. The name on my facebook profile is spelled wrong just so it's harder to dig up dirt. People also assume my name is Shawn because that's my user name. That's not my name.

The only way to ensure you aren't tracked is to put enough disinformation out there that your true self can't be determined.