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Zap
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>Would you pay $250 for a case if:
No
1. It was a full tower case
No
2. Had very sturdy doors, with a great lock (an option with no doors also available).
No
3. Very quiet, in fact, almost non-existing noise
Yes
4. Very light
Yes only if for LAN party rig
5. Very good cooling structure, in fact, one of the best in market
Yes
6. Removable trays, screwless design, lots of front and top inputs, etc.
No
No
1. It was a full tower case
No
2. Had very sturdy doors, with a great lock (an option with no doors also available).
No
3. Very quiet, in fact, almost non-existing noise
Yes
4. Very light
Yes only if for LAN party rig
5. Very good cooling structure, in fact, one of the best in market
Yes
6. Removable trays, screwless design, lots of front and top inputs, etc.
No
I wouldnt' pay $250 case unless my life depened on it. The last cast (last week) I purchased was $115 (lian 60 plus) and I thought that was excessive (and now that I have it - well its ok but has two negatives which bug me for a case over $100). So no - I wouldn't touch a case for $250 and next time I build a system I won't consider a case over $115 
Elcs
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Would you pay $250 for a case if....
1) NO!
2) If if had a PC inside it.... could tempt me.
3) if it cooked me breakfast yes!!!
Seriously, plow $40-50 into an Antec SLK3000B and be happy. $200 extra on your innards will make you much happier.
In my opinion anyway.
1) NO!
2) If if had a PC inside it.... could tempt me.
3) if it cooked me breakfast yes!!!
Seriously, plow $40-50 into an Antec SLK3000B and be happy. $200 extra on your innards will make you much happier.
In my opinion anyway.
man, there is things that the TJ07 does that the slk just cant
a. sleeker design (internal and external)
b. server mobo compatiable
c. more bays if you have lots of designs
d. better construction
whether thats all worth and extra $200 is all relative
(actually the 07 cannot be found for that cheap)
The only cases I would spend over $100 on are the first two Stackers, for their customizability (and still not more than $150). I'm trying to see if I can get a refurb one off ebay for cheap.
After considering this a third time...
For 250, a case should be extremely strong, VERY light [Less than 10kg.], NO MODIFICATIONS NECESSARY for most applications.
So, in the case of the TJ07--no modifications are necessary to fit a 2x120 radiator on top.. I'd like one that could do a 3x120, with zero mod work.
It shouldn't be ugly by any standards. For 250, a case should reek aesthetic appeal.
Anodized finish [Type II FTW!]--something that you can take to a LAN, and not have scratch. Mind you, not something that will hold up to a dremel But something that won't be damaged by moving it to your car, etc.
I really can't think of anything on the market that could touch that, even the TJ07.
The case that comes CLOSE is the PC-G70, but modifications are most defintely necessary.
Also, no door locks. Thumb screws included. If someone takes their comp to a LAN, they're smart enough to use standard screws. No one will undo those by hand, and someone will notice if they try to do it with a screw driver. I personally think locking cases at LANs is unnecessary.
Anyone getting this high in the case cost area will almost CERTAINLY watercool
--Trevor
For 250, a case should be extremely strong, VERY light [Less than 10kg.], NO MODIFICATIONS NECESSARY for most applications.
So, in the case of the TJ07--no modifications are necessary to fit a 2x120 radiator on top.. I'd like one that could do a 3x120, with zero mod work.
It shouldn't be ugly by any standards. For 250, a case should reek aesthetic appeal.
Anodized finish [Type II FTW!]--something that you can take to a LAN, and not have scratch. Mind you, not something that will hold up to a dremel
But something that won't be damaged by moving it to your car, etc.I really can't think of anything on the market that could touch that, even the TJ07.
The case that comes CLOSE is the PC-G70, but modifications are most defintely necessary.
Also, no door locks. Thumb screws included. If someone takes their comp to a LAN, they're smart enough to use standard screws. No one will undo those by hand, and someone will notice if they try to do it with a screw driver. I personally think locking cases at LANs is unnecessary.
Anyone getting this high in the case cost area will almost CERTAINLY watercool
--Trevor
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I wonder how much people would spend if they found a perfect case for them. I found my perfect case, and it cost me ~$550 (including shipping). But for what it's worth, I don't think you can really put a price limit on the perfect case. It's the kind of thing that is priceless...
It's gotten to a point where I'm about to get a quote from a manufacturer of cases for a case that has the following...
1) It must be made of steel. that's right, steel.
2) The case would be truly full sized without cheating by making a tall case skinny. It would be a full 12 inches wide so it could come standard with two big water radiators in the rear of the unit stacked one on top of the next so it can do a double loop with one loop servicing the CPU and chipset and the other one servicing the video cards.
3) It would have a no B.S. water pump mounted neatly away and shock mounted so the vibration was kept to a minimum.
4) The front, bottom to 20 inches up the front of the case would have 120 mm fans, a total of 8 of them that all turned nice and slow. The case would be almost 24 inches tall as a result. The fans would push air over all the hard drive units that also would have rubberized shock mountings to reduce the noise they made. In front of all these fans would be a single, removable filter that you could blow out and re-install keeping the unit clean and neat. There would only be room oddly enough up top for two optical drives, but what someone needs with more than two I have no idea why!
5) It would be available in any factory color an old model T was available in directly from Ford in 1924!
6) It would have no stupid lights or see through panels. At the most, to compliment the black case, you could add a bit of chrome trim, but I'd even skip that one. It would also be sealed air tight in all areas except where air was intended to flow in or out of. This would cut down substantially on noise.
7) Instead of waisting an entire optical drive bay for fan controls, it would have a fan control setup resessed into the top, front area of the unit with simply and straight forward controls for the fans and the pump to increase or decrease the speeds of the fans ans a whole only and another speed control for the water pump. It would have the case temperature sensor mounted at the top of the case where it belongs.
8) Instead of having to buy increasingly powerful power supplies just for the sake of the 12 volt needs, it would have it's own 12 volt power supply mounted above the hard drive rack that would be relayed so that when you hit the start button, it would drive all your cooling fans including hookups for the fans on your mommaboard if you wished to opt that way and the pump. There would be an infared fault alarm system that would detect if the pump or fans did not run and automatically shut the PC down if that happens and give you in the fan control display the reason for the shutdown in plain language instead of some cryptic code.
9) Between both the case fans and the pump being run by it's own power supply that would not need to cost as much as a standard PC power supply due to pumps and fans not needing prefect power, it would make it so most water cooling folks could get away with using a power supply 25-30% smaller than the monsters they are now considering for their next build.
10) It would have a bit of ducting so some of the air would be directed behind the mommaboard.
11) I finger the production costs of a unit like that with high quality fans already included along with a no nonsense pump, relay and fan and pump speed control setup would cost about $160.00 U.S. That if far more expensive a production cost than the cases they sell you for $300.00 U.S now, so I doubt we'd ever see anyone make a case like that. I could make a go of it as long as I got a thousand preorders at $250.00 a piece, and that would be a lower 48 State delivered price, but I think the snowball stands a better chance in hell than I ever do of getting that sort of response.
Ok guys, go ahead and tell me it's all nonsense! :disgust:
1) It must be made of steel. that's right, steel.
2) The case would be truly full sized without cheating by making a tall case skinny. It would be a full 12 inches wide so it could come standard with two big water radiators in the rear of the unit stacked one on top of the next so it can do a double loop with one loop servicing the CPU and chipset and the other one servicing the video cards.
3) It would have a no B.S. water pump mounted neatly away and shock mounted so the vibration was kept to a minimum.
4) The front, bottom to 20 inches up the front of the case would have 120 mm fans, a total of 8 of them that all turned nice and slow. The case would be almost 24 inches tall as a result. The fans would push air over all the hard drive units that also would have rubberized shock mountings to reduce the noise they made. In front of all these fans would be a single, removable filter that you could blow out and re-install keeping the unit clean and neat. There would only be room oddly enough up top for two optical drives, but what someone needs with more than two I have no idea why!
5) It would be available in any factory color an old model T was available in directly from Ford in 1924!
6) It would have no stupid lights or see through panels. At the most, to compliment the black case, you could add a bit of chrome trim, but I'd even skip that one. It would also be sealed air tight in all areas except where air was intended to flow in or out of. This would cut down substantially on noise.
7) Instead of waisting an entire optical drive bay for fan controls, it would have a fan control setup resessed into the top, front area of the unit with simply and straight forward controls for the fans and the pump to increase or decrease the speeds of the fans ans a whole only and another speed control for the water pump. It would have the case temperature sensor mounted at the top of the case where it belongs.
8) Instead of having to buy increasingly powerful power supplies just for the sake of the 12 volt needs, it would have it's own 12 volt power supply mounted above the hard drive rack that would be relayed so that when you hit the start button, it would drive all your cooling fans including hookups for the fans on your mommaboard if you wished to opt that way and the pump. There would be an infared fault alarm system that would detect if the pump or fans did not run and automatically shut the PC down if that happens and give you in the fan control display the reason for the shutdown in plain language instead of some cryptic code.
9) Between both the case fans and the pump being run by it's own power supply that would not need to cost as much as a standard PC power supply due to pumps and fans not needing prefect power, it would make it so most water cooling folks could get away with using a power supply 25-30% smaller than the monsters they are now considering for their next build.
10) It would have a bit of ducting so some of the air would be directed behind the mommaboard.
11) I finger the production costs of a unit like that with high quality fans already included along with a no nonsense pump, relay and fan and pump speed control setup would cost about $160.00 U.S. That if far more expensive a production cost than the cases they sell you for $300.00 U.S now, so I doubt we'd ever see anyone make a case like that. I could make a go of it as long as I got a thousand preorders at $250.00 a piece, and that would be a lower 48 State delivered price, but I think the snowball stands a better chance in hell than I ever do of getting that sort of response.
Ok guys, go ahead and tell me it's all nonsense! :disgust:
If there was preinstalled water cooling (too damn lazy!) and above specs, yes. But that'll never happen
All I'd need is 1,000 pre-orders and I can do it, but I think you're right, too many wouldn't see the value of a no nonsense case. After all, no Disco Duck lights or stupid neon dye in the water!
Almost every power supply that comes with cases are complete junk. Gotta finger what you are getting and not hide your head in the sand. It's Dude's like this that are the reason we'll never see a functional case.
Almost every power supply that comes with cases are complete junk. Gotta finger what you are getting and not hide your head in the sand. It's Dude's like this that are the reason we'll never see a functional case.
i'm down for one of those cases =]
actually my dream case would have 8 x 12in cold cathodes and 10x 80mm fans@8000rpm =]
haha gg jk
actually my dream case would have 8 x 12in cold cathodes and 10x 80mm fans@8000rpm =]
haha gg jk
Cool! Like Rad man! How Xtreme Dude! We could like, have the light show flash in time to the Llama song!...
http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/llama.php
http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/llama.php
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