would you marry someone, so they could stay in the USA?

Yeeny

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If they were a really decent hardworking person, who just didn't have a chance to make it in their home country? This question was posed to me recently (jokingly), but I think I would do it for the right person.

That said, you have to live with them for at least three years I believe, before they can get their citizenship. Forgive me if this is a repost, I am really not around here too much anymore. ;)
 

zsouthboy

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Hell, I can't even find a desperate girl who's NOT getting deported....

The answer is yes, however...
 

Heisenberg

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It would depend heavily on the situation and how well I knew the person, but I have no serious moral objections to it.
 

gopunk

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probably not, unless they paid me or something.... because otherwise it's just a lot of trouble... i mean how do i explain her to my family? people i want to date? it would just be weird.
 

Yeeny

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Originally posted by: gopunk
probably not, unless they paid me or something.... because otherwise it's just a lot of trouble... i mean how do i explain her to my family? people i want to date? it would just be weird.

That is the biggest concern I would have, explaining "Hi, I'm married, but its fake." to someone I liked. They might not believe that. ;)
 

NikPreviousAcct

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No. I could not, in good conscience, marry someone who I did not love. And, if I loved someone who wasn't a US citizen and married them, it would not be so that they could stay in the USA. It would be because I love them and want to spend the rest of my life with them. :)
 

WinkOsmosis

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Originally posted by: FFMCobalt
No. I could not, in good conscience, marry someone who I did not love. And, if I loved someone who wasn't a US citizen and married them, it would not be so that they could stay in the USA. It would be because I love them and want to spend the rest of my life with them. :)

Are you capable of love you monster?
 

incallisto

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A friend of mine was asked to marry a girl who was from Northern Africa. She agree to pay him $10000.00 in advance and sign any prenuptual agreement he chose without question. He turned her down because it is wrong to marry someone so they can obtain citizenship in the greatest country in the world (i.e. USA).

Later he asked her if she was just kidding and she said "No. I was completely honest. I would have gone to my brother's house and he would have given you $50000.00 in cash." Her brother is fairly wealthy and he is citizen of the US. Turns out part of the agreement was she had to become pregnant with his (my friend's) child within six months after marriage so even if they divorced she would be allowed to remain in the country.

She had no clue what she was talking about. I believe, in 1998, a law was passed stating that if someone received citizenship through marriage to a naturalized citizen of the US, they had to remain married in order to remain a citizen otherwise they would be returned to their country of origin. Please correct me if I am wrong on that. My knowledge is limited in that area because I have never thought about marrying someone of a different nationality. I am an American and I will marry an American or remain single. ;)

 

I know too many people that marry for green card. It bothers me. So, no I wouldn't do it.

Usually people who do this have a significant other in their country of origin and sometimes at least one kid. I don't like to feel that I am breaking or destroying someone else's life. To me it's a moral question and a question of bonding. Bonding is just soooo important to me.

We have a very cute friend (in the true sense), very handsome who digs into tall women. So he met this tall chick, who plays volleyball pro) whose parents are in Canada and her nationality is Canadian (or maybe she has the Canadian equivalent of green card). He dated her on and off. Well, they got back together again. Then she says, you either marry me now or take a hike. He said he just wanted to be free of the talk about papers all the time, so he married her. But no babies definitely. He wasn't that in love with her for a serious relationship.

Right now we know a guy who's facing that dilemma. He was a good friend of us at some point. Sometimes he seems to hint that maybe my sibling can marry him and help him out. But we've discussed it in my family. We concluded that doing stuff like that devalues marriage. To me, it's supposed to be sacred and I don't want to diminish the meaning. I would much rather stay single than do that.

On the other hand, if I did get married to someone in need of green card, it would be either of two things:

1) I really loved that person, and the person convinced me that he is worthy of it too. Many of these guys fool the women and don't reveal that it's for green card. However, he has to come clean and tell me that he also wants papers. This contract will also mean no kids for 3 years, just in case things don't turn out well. I have seen too many families torn apart just because of one man's quest for green card. It doesn't help when he abandons the American lady (who was too naive to see his intent) and marries his own country woman.

2) i. I have to be convinced that his life back in his country of origin was really bad.
ii. He has to be a hardworking guy.
iii. Then we'll have to enter into a contract . . . It will be understood as business and no babies will be brought into the pic. Strictly business. I know there's temptations when you have to pretend to be true lovers, live in the same house, etc.

It's difficult for me to see it happen. I would rather stick with a fellow American or a guy that already has his papers. Or if I marry someone from elsewhere it would be after I met him at his country of origin and have intentions to stay there.
 

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If it were a homosexual marriage........HELL NO(not that theres anything wrong with that)
I probably wouldn't marry a girl either...too much commitment and liablity