Would you hire an ex-con?

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Gooberlx2

Lifer
May 4, 2001
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What was the question. I voted no as in "I wouldn't hire one". I certainly think they should be allowed back in to the workforce. I'm just biased because of my experience with my BIL, his parole, and his shady behavior and friends.

I do firmly believe one of the biggest reasons for recidivism is because the cards are so ridiculously stacked against the felons. Most criminals don't have real family support, or anything in the way of assets or belongings when they get out. For many it's a choice of living on the streets or halfway houses, either way surrounded by the exact element and influence (criminals and addicts) that often lead to their paths to criminal behavior in the first place. Additionally, most have to pay for their piss tests ($3 for my BIL) and visits to their POs and drug counselors and group meetings...but with what money? Stupidly, if you fuck up on your piss tests, you get sent to rehab and then subsequent counseling and group classes are free. What's the incentive for someone to do well? (a subsequent fuck up often results in the parolee being sent back to prison). In the 10 months my BIL was out, he had stories of a number of fellow inmates/parolees who intentionally committed crimes because a) they were too institutionalized and b) they simply weren't able to get on their feet. When he was arrested and convicted again, I think his motives were partly because he's simply a criminal at heart, and also because he had a very hard time adjusting to life outside.

There's no good solution to it though. Like I said, I wouldn't hire a felon, but people working in my lab aren't unskilled or uneducated. If I was hiring line cooks for McDs, it might be different. But it would still depend on exactly what their criminal history looked like.
 

Nik

Lifer
Jun 5, 2006
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Of course they should How retarded. They've already served their debt to society. Noneed to treat them poorly.
 

FelixDeCat

Lifer
Aug 4, 2000
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To the people who call this thread stupid:

http://www.indeed.com/forum/lo...lony-records/t44060/p2

While the obvious answer to my poll (to most) seems to be a "yes" or a qualified "yes", the above is a long list of people who got a no even from places like Wal-Mart, McDonalds and Burger King simply as a matter of policy.

Why cant we get these corporate titans to see the light? Ex cons need work too!
 

So

Lifer
Jul 2, 2001
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Originally posted by: FelixDeKat
I think ex offenders should be allowed to prove themselves again, but would YOU hire one?

If you believe the answer is no, then there should be only one sentence for being convicted of a felony: Death.
 

zerocool84

Lifer
Nov 11, 2004
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Originally posted by: TridenT
It depends on their record and the job. For instance: Multiple GTA charges and this person is supposed to be a valet? Idk about that. :p

But I voted yes.

They'd be the best valets cus they have so much experience driving a variety of cars.
 

GagHalfrunt

Lifer
Apr 19, 2001
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Depends on the job and what they did. I might hire an embezzler as a dog walker and a sexual deviant as a bookkeeper, but not vice versa.
 

coldmeat

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Jul 10, 2007
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You can't just change the question in the poll because you don't like the results...
 

IEC

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Jun 10, 2004
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I would hire them, but only to end the OP - err, what was I talking about? ;)
 

cheezy321

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Dec 31, 2003
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You cant change the poll and title halfway thru the poll!

THIS THREAD IS RIDICULOUS. LOCK IT UP!
 

compuwiz1

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Oct 9, 1999
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I don't condone criminal behavior, but I also believe everyone should get a second chance. I'd look into all the circumstances of what they did and try and evaluate if they have changed. Sometimes giving someone an opportunity and them actually having someone that believes in them makes all the difference in the world. Many ex cons become valuable members of society again.
 

Farang

Lifer
Jul 7, 2003
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If it is just me and the resume in an office, and I've got a stack of others, honestly I'd probably move on. If the punishment has been served and done with I don't think it should be any of the employer's business, unless it is directly related to the job (ex: child molester wanting to be a schoolteacher).

edit: depending on the circumstances of course. If I'm hiring someone to do mindless lifting I wouldn't care so much if they were charged with selling pot when they were 18.
 

Leros

Lifer
Jul 11, 2004
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My parents hired an ex-con at one their restaurants. They thought he was doing a good job and made him manager after a few months. Then they found out he was giving away over $1000 of free food a week to his friends and family.
 

BoomerD

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Feb 26, 2006
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I voted yes, but there should be a "Maybe" option in the poll as well.

It really depends on the type of job...and the individual.


Fortunately for me, MOST people are willing to hire ex-cons in MOST jobs.

In the 30-odd years since my last conviction, I've only knowingly lost one job because of my record, and that was a construction job in a secure part of Livermore Labs...but then again, in construction, a criminal record generally doesn't matter like it would in a bank...(where they steal far more money than most thieves ever do) :p
 

MovingTarget

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Jun 22, 2003
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Originally posted by: Chaotic42
Yes, they should have all of the rights of a non-criminal. If they are not rehabilitated after they leave prison, then the prison has failed.

Exactly. I have a relative (who will remain nameless) that pled guilty to a felony offense back in the mid eighties. After serving his time, he decided to go to Electrical Engineering school to go into another field (as he was originally a pharmacist). To this day, the best job he was able to land was at a home improvement type warehouse store. Nowadays people see 'felony' on their computer screen and immedeately dump their resume in the garbage without so much as looking to see what the offense was, how long ago it was, or even talking to the person. Seriously, it is fucked up.
 

vi edit

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Oct 28, 1999
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Depends on the job, the type of conviction, time since, and how well they were actually qualified for the position.

In all truthiness though, if I had two candidates that were otherwise equal and one had a criminal record, I'd hire the "clean" candidate every time.
 

Pepsei

Lifer
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i'd hire michael vick to play for my football team if i have a horrible qb, but not as my dog sitter. so short answer, yes they should be allowed to work.
 

Modelworks

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Depends on the job. Obviously hiring someone as a bank guard who was convicted of robbery would be foolish. Hiring the same guy to do landscaping might make sense though.