Would you drive a minivan?

[ShawnD1]

An old ranger pickup with liability/recreation use only would probably run me $25 a month to license and insure.

How old are you?
Where I live, insurance pretty much starts at $1000 yearly if you have a perfect driving record for just liability until you're about 40 years old. Registration is $75 per year.


Using my own numbers, it would be more cheaper to replace your Camry with a minivan rather than get a third vehicle

 

[KentState]

I would never get in a situation where I need to have a minivan. I can either get by with a sedan or a station wagon, but that's about as big of a vehicle as I'd want. Plus I save a ton of money by not having to support multiple kids.

 

[JeffreyLebowski]

Is gas price that much of a concern for this many people???
Jeez. The price difference between a mini-van, wagon, or sedan can't be more than $5-$10 per fill up

 

[Elfear]

I would never get in a situation where I need to have a minivan. I can either get by with a sedan or a station wagon, but that's about as big of a vehicle as I'd want. Plus I save a ton of money by not having to support multiple kids.

What else are you going to spend your money on? Not to go too far OT but I can't of anything that warms the soul like coming home from work and getting hugs and kisses from your kids. Or watching them grow up and start families of their own. Can't imagine many people out there who at the end of their lives looked back and wished they had bought more toys. I'll bet there are quite a few however who looked back and wished they had had children.

Nothing against hobbies or toys, I think they are fun too, but I have a hard time understanding people who see children as a bane.

Anyway, I'll step off my soapbox now. Back OT, for those who don't like minivans, would you consider this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdTEy3sVqhw&feature=related

 

[ShawnD1]

Anyway, I'll step off my soapbox now. Back OT, for those who don't like minivans, would you consider this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdTEy3sVqhw&feature=related

Nope. It would get stuck in snow.

 

[exdeath]

???
You know they start at like 25k or something right? You don't need to buy the one that has spinning rims and gold teeth..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPNJjL9iznY

Yes I would drive a short bus around. I would even paint it yellow.

That's actually pretty cool, I can't think of anything more worth pimpin out and getting away with it than a freaken school bus.

 

[alkemyst]

I'd drive a Honda Element. First do cams for 200WHP and the 6 speed conversion.

Maybe later a turbo.

I am still debating this route or putting an LS1 or LS2 in my 98 240SX.

 

[Zenmervolt]

He's not saying a truck as a replacement daily driver. He's saying use it as a 2nd/3rd vehicle.

To which you still have to license and insure, but depending on your state/age/ect could be a lot. Or it could be next to nothing.

An old ranger pickup with liability/recreation use only would probably run me $25 a month to license and insure.

Yup, buddy of mine bought an old 2WD F-150 with the 302 V8 for $900 a while back. He's 27, male, and single. Insurance costs him only about $50/quarter (limited use insurance, liability only).

How old are you?
Where I live, insurance pretty much starts at $1000 yearly if you have a perfect driving record for just liability until you're about 40 years old. Registration is $75 per year.

I have to call BS on that. As a 28 year-old single man, I pay less than that for full coverage on a turbo Porsche in a major metropolitan area (Seattle) through State Farm. Liability only would be $550/year for my current 100/300/100 coverage level. If I took it down to the legal minimums I'd probably cut that liability cost in half.

The cost to keep a beater truck with legal minimum insurance would probably be about $200/year in insurance and $60/year in registration (based on what my friend pays). He uses the truck probably 10-15 times a year for errands he can't make with his car. In terms of total dollar cost, he's about breaking even. In terms of convenience he's worlds ahead since the nearest place where he could rent a truck is 1/2 hour away.

It's not worth wasting an hour or more each time you need to run an errand that a truck makes worlds more convenient just to save a couple bucks a year. The "just rent it when you need it" argument utterly fails to assign any value to the significant convenience of having your own vehicle available all the time.

ZV

 

[alkemyst]

you have to store that 'truck' somewhere. Most don't want to give up the driveway or garage space to do it.

 

[vi edit]

you have to store that 'truck' somewhere. Most don't want to give up the driveway or garage space to do it.

I think that most people that have the desire/need of a beater truck meet one or more of these requirements:

1) have the garage or driveway space to afford it
2) have a spare garage or barn to stash it
3) have a big enough yard and don't care if they park it there

Every person that I know that has three vehicles either has a three stall garage or a side parking spot to put their truck at the least, if not even a morton building or a barn. And north of the Mason Dixon line we actually have basements for storage instead of using our garages for that purpose.

 

[ShawnD1]

you have to store that 'truck' somewhere. Most don't want to give up the driveway or garage space to do it.

Don't worry brah, just park it on the lawn

I have to call BS on that. As a 28 year-old single man, I pay less than that for full coverage on a turbo Porsche in a major metropolitan area (Seattle) through State Farm. Liability only would be $550/year for my current 100/300/100 coverage level. If I took it down to the legal minimums I'd probably cut that liability cost in half.

http://www.consumer.ca/1575
"There is one unique location in Canada that enables a side-by-side comparison of public vs. private auto insurance rates. This is Lloydminster, Alberta vs. Lloydminster, Saskatchewan, a city that straddles the border between provinces. "A person living 30 metres across the street on the Alberta side can pay up to $5000 more each year for the same vehicle and get worse insurance coverage", said Mr. Cran. Saskatchewan has a public auto system while Alberta has a totally private system."

Thank god the free market is here to keep me safe from those affordable government rates. I'm so glad we get raped so some dick at the insurance company can drive a Ferrari

 

[JulesMaximus]

Honestly? Probably not.

 

[kornphlake]

"A person living 30 metres across the street on the Alberta side can pay up to $5000 more each year for the same vehicle and get worse insurance coverage", said Mr. Cran. Saskatchewan has a public auto system while Alberta has a totally private system."

Thank god the free market is here to keep me safe from those affordable government rates. I'm so glad we get raped so some dick at the insurance company can drive a Ferrari

Maybe my reading comprehension is going downhill what is your point? Expensive government insurance is good and cheap private insurance is bad because someone drives a Ferrari to work? Not too coherent...

 

[ShawnD1]

Maybe my reading comprehension is going downhill what is your point? Expensive government insurance is good and cheap private insurance is bad because someone drives a Ferrari to work? Not too coherent...

Yes your reading comprehension is horrible. The article flat out says public insurance in Saskatchewan is extremely cheap. Private insurance in Alberta is extremely expensive. I called several companies to get quotes on comprehensive insurance for a Honda Civic Si and the cheapest rate any of them listed was $4500. I'm 25 years old, 0 at-fault accidents, 0 points on my record.

 

[Zenmervolt]

Thank god the free market is here to keep me safe from those affordable government rates. I'm so glad we get raped so some dick at the insurance company can drive a Ferrari

Free market insurance in the US for me and I pay a hell of a lot less than you. Sounds like you need to find a different scapegoat for the cost of your insurance.

ZV

 

[kornphlake]

Yes your reading comprehension is horrible. The article flat out says public insurance in Saskatchewan is extremely cheap. Private insurance in Alberta is extremely expensive. I called several companies to get quotes on comprehensive insurance for a Honda Civic Si and the cheapest rate any of them listed was $4500. I'm 25 years old, 0 at-fault accidents, 0 points on my record.

Geeze, my reading comprehension does suck, it couldn't be the result of public schooling, I went to a private university.

Still, your rates don't really represent the rest of the world, I pay about 1/4 as much for two vehicles. My wife's van cost about $35/mo for liability well above the state minimum (100/300/100), collision and comprehensive coverage with a $1000 deductible, my sedan only has liability and costs a couple dollars less every month. I'm 30 years old and may have one ticket on my driving record, my wife is also on the policy and has a clean record.

When we moved out of southern california our rates dropped by about $100/mo.

 

[KentState]

What else are you going to spend your money on? Not to go too far OT but I can't of anything that warms the soul like coming home from work and getting hugs and kisses from your kids. Or watching them grow up and start families of their own. Can't imagine many people out there who at the end of their lives looked back and wished they had bought more toys. I'll bet there are quite a few however who looked back and wished they had had children.

Nothing against hobbies or toys, I think they are fun too, but I have a hard time understanding people who see children as a bane.

Anyway, I'll step off my soapbox now. Back OT, for those who don't like minivans, would you consider this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdTEy3sVqhw&feature=related

There are already a lot of people already born that could use help, need love and a helping hand. Why do I have to selfishly have children to add to more mouths when we don't take care of the ones we already have? But this is really OT.