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Would you die if you could help save millions?

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Would you sacrifice yourself to save millions of people

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her209

No Lifer
Oct 11, 2000
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I'd do it only if said pharma company signs an agreement that they will make no profit off the drug.
 

sandorski

No Lifer
Oct 10, 1999
70,785
6,345
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The scenario is Ill Conceived. 2 Shots, one Cures Cancer, the other Kills, and I have to choose whether to risk it? Either the one asking you is some kind of Mad Scientist or is an extremely disorganized Scientist who forgot to properly label his vials. Also, it could be easily determined which is which simply by some elementary Testing on Lab Animals, so the scenario could only exist if the Scientist involved was a complete Schmuck who likely couldn't tie his shoe laces, nevermind Cure Cancer.

No sir, I'll be the stick in the mud who proclaims this thread: Dumb.
 

BurnItDwn

Lifer
Oct 10, 1999
26,353
1,862
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No. I like to live. I will do anything to preserve my own life, even if it costs others. Never the other way around.
 

Hacp

Lifer
Jun 8, 2005
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The scenario is Ill Conceived. 2 Shots, one Cures Cancer, the other Kills, and I have to choose whether to risk it? Either the one asking you is some kind of Mad Scientist or is an extremely disorganized Scientist who forgot to properly label his vials. Also, it could be easily determined which is which simply by some elementary Testing on Lab Animals, so the scenario could only exist if the Scientist involved was a complete Schmuck who likely couldn't tie his shoe laces, nevermind Cure Cancer.

No sir, I'll be the stick in the mud who proclaims this thread: Dumb.

Well it is possible that you found the binding site that binds to the specific protein you are looking to target but it so happens that the drug also targets other binding sites in your body and kills the cells. They've probably gone through thousands of iterations and have two candidates that seem to avoid normal cells to an extent in vitro.

Testing in animals however has been a mixed bag. One drug works well in chimps and the other drug works well on monkeys. If the drug didn't work well, the organism died. You still haven't identified which pathway the drug is taking to kill healthy cells and time is short, it could take decades to find a solution. Or, there could be a secret clinical trial involving two people. At least one is certain to die but the other may be saved if the drug works. Which will you choose?
 

sandorski

No Lifer
Oct 10, 1999
70,785
6,345
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Well it is possible that you found the binding site that binds to the specific protein you are looking to target but it so happens that the drug also targets other binding sites in your body and kills the cells. They've probably gone through thousands of iterations and have two candidates that seem to avoid normal cells to an extent in vitro.

Testing in animals however has been a mixed bag. One drug works well in chimps and the other drug works well on monkeys. If the drug didn't work well, the organism died. You still haven't identified which pathway the drug is taking to kill healthy cells and time is short, it could take decades to find a solution. Or, there could be a secret clinical trial involving two people. At least one is certain to die but the other may be saved if the drug works. Which will you choose?

Shens.
 

lothar

Diamond Member
Jan 5, 2000
6,674
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Lets say that a pharmaceutical company is one step from finding a cure for cancer. The final step on the trials are 2 shots.

shot 1 - will cure all cancer

shot 2 - will kill you

You are asked to volunteer to take 1 of the 2 shots. The drug company will then know which shot is the final drug, and as a result millions of lives will be saved.

The kicker is, your sacrifice will never be known. If you die, your name will never be honored, as the test are top secret.

Do you volunteer?
That depends...
1.) Do I already have Cancer?
2.) How much time do I have to live if I don't take any shots?

Your poll question cannot be answered until you've answered those.

I only sacrifice myself to save myself.
Why should I care about sacrificing my life for millions of people that are not even my family members?
 

lothar

Diamond Member
Jan 5, 2000
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7
76
<double facepalm here>

Lets say you have anal cancer from years of unprotected anal sex.

do you volunteer now?
1.) What is the average life expectancy of anal cancer(or whatever hypothetical cancer you're using for this poll question) from the time of diagnosis?
2.) How much time are the doctors estimating that I have left to live?
 

lxskllr

No Lifer
Nov 30, 2004
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10,553
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I vote no. Ignoring the flaws of the setup, and getting to the point, I'm pro cancer. There's too many people already, and it's getting to the point our only (un)natural control left is war. You have to die sometime, and cancer is as good as anything.
 

arcenite

Lifer
Dec 9, 2001
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I'd say no; and tell them they'd probably have better luck if they don't ask people who enjoy life.
 
Apr 17, 2005
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I'd do it. Even if it was a randomly chosen dozen people, together they'd prolly contribute more to humanity than I could by myself. I don't say probably because I have an inflated sense of worth but because I will be a doctor so I hope to save more than a dozen people in my career.