Would you consider a 100 USD video card to be low end?

[Bateluer]

Assuming the ~100 dollars is the MSRP and its not a refurb, used, or open box. Would a video card priced at roughly 100 US dollars, plus or minus 10%, be considered low end?

 

[Red Hawk]

I'd call it entry level. At 100 dollars you're going to get a card that isn't even on par with the Xbox One. Not enough for 1080p gaming with current games.

 

[x3sphere]

100 USD is often a weird spot, at least when considering new, you usually can get a way better video card for ~$30-50 more .

 

[SPBHM]

considering how high performance and price can go it probably is, but I always considered real low end more like the r7 240, 6450, GT 610... this kind of stuff which is way slower and also significantly cheaper.

I'd call it entry level. At 100 dollars you're going to get a card that isn't even on par with the Xbox One. Not enough for 1080p gaming with current games.

looking at newegg $100 is enough for a GTX 750 2GB (non TI), it should be able to outperform the Xbox One for many games,

 

[Red Hawk]

looking at newegg $100 is enough for a GTX 750 2GB (non TI), it should be able to outperform the Xbox One for many games,

Putting this in context: The Xbox One runs Dragon Age Inquisition at 1600x900, close to the resolution of this test. The effects on the Xbox One are pared back, but so are the effects in the PC's ultra preset that Techspot tested, to an extent (Though they are running with 2x MSAA). The 750 Ti can't break 30 FPS, and the 750 would perform worse.

I'm not sure where you're getting that $100 would be enough for a 750, though. It looks to me that 740s and a 650 Ti are as good as you're going to get from Nvidia, and a 250X is as good as you'll get from AMD.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007709%204027&IsNodeId=1&name=%2475%20-%20%24100

 

[Insomniator]

100 MSRP is definitely low end, about the cheapest card I would consider for any real 'PC' gaming.

Much less then 100 and you are getting into the low profile, htpc, or cards you've barely ever heard of territory. If you actually want to game on a PC, spring for the $100-$150 card over the $75 one.

 

[SPBHM]

Putting this in context: The Xbox One runs Dragon Age Inquisition at 1600x900, close to the resolution of this test. The effects on the Xbox One are pared back, but so are the effects in the PC's ultra preset that Techspot tested, to an extent (Though they are running with 2x MSAA). The 750 Ti can't break 30 FPS, and the 750 would perform worse.

I'm not sure where you're getting that $100 would be enough for a 750, though. It looks to me that 740s and a 650 Ti are as good as you're going to get from Nvidia, and a 250X is as good as you'll get from AMD.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007709%204027&IsNodeId=1&name=%2475%20-%20%24100

GIGABYTE GV-N750OC-2GI G-SYNC Support GeForce GTX 750 2GB 128-Bit GDDR5
$104.99
Save: $5.00 (5%)
$94.99 after $10.00 rebate card

!?

as for DAI, you are not comparing the same image quality, 900p is lower and the xbox is not running MSAA and other reductions compared to Ultra, the GTX 750 2GB can probably play the game better,

 

[x3sphere]

Either way, GTX750 is a poor value when you can get a GTX660 for $129 AR which is considerably faster

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-660-_-Product

Looking at a 30% performance difference in BF4 for $25 more. $100 is a poor value/performance price point for video cards unless you're buying used.

 

[Bateluer]

So we're clear, I wanted to make sure I wasn't off base on this. In a thread on the TW3 Elder Blood trailer on reddit, there's an individual insisting that 100 dollar video cards are not low end, emphatically insisting. I'm trying to set him straight.

 

[toyota]

So we're clear, I wanted to make sure I wasn't off base on this. In a thread on the TW3 Elder Blood trailer on reddit, there's an individual insisting that 100 dollar video cards are not low end, emphatically insisting. I'm trying to set him straight.

you cant fix stupid.

 

[alcoholbob]

PS4 supposedly is using an APU thats slightly faster than 7870. Based on those DAI graphs it would be at least 50% faster than a 750ti. So a $100ish card is clearly entry level.

 

[SPBHM]

PS4 supposedly is using an APU thats slightly faster than 7870. Based on those DAI graphs it would be at least 50% faster than a 750ti. So a $100ish card is clearly entry level.

it's slower than the 7870 going by basic specs,

7870 = 1280sps at 1GHz
PS4 = 1152sps at 800MHz

things are not so simple, for many games a 260x can keep up with the ps4 well
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cZGw92feB0

i3+750ti vs ps4 on the latest COD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02Iie6d3WXo

 

[cbn]

I'd call it entry level. At 100 dollars you're going to get a card that isn't even on par with the Xbox One.

That is not true because R7 260X has more stream processors and memory bandwidth than Xbox One.

This coming from a card that sometimes goes below $85 After rebate when on sale.

EDIT: I do see the OP mentioning MSRP which makes the situation more difficult, but unpractical at the same time. This because most cards don't sell at their MSRP anymore.

 

[cbn]

I'm not sure where you're getting that $100 would be enough for a 750, though. It looks to me that 740s and a 650 Ti are as good as you're going to get from Nvidia, and a 250X is as good as you'll get from AMD.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007709%204027&IsNodeId=1&name=%2475%20-%20%24100

I've seen 750s go for $89.99 and the 250X has dropped as low as $54.99 and $59.99 AR several times ---> http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2391710&highlight= (Currently the linked model is $79.99 AR, free shipping)

 

[Bateluer]

it's slower than the 7870 going by basic specs,

7870 = 1280sps at 1GHz
PS4 = 1152sps at 800MHz

True enough, but people tend to give it a bump up due to close to metal APIs and optimizations.

 

[Bateluer]

you cant fix stupid.

He's apparently destitute. One of his posts mentioned he had to save up for a 50 dollar video card.

 

[sheh]

there's an individual insisting that 100 dollar video cards are not low end, emphatically insisting. I'm trying to set him straight.

I'd say it's the low-end of the mid-level. Low-end is the bottom for me; stuff like GT730, and GT740.

 

[cbn]

He's apparently destitute. One of his posts mentioned he had to save up for a 50 dollar video card.

Yes, $50 would be entry level, something you would find is this thread---> http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2403091 (Some examples are GT 630s starting at $30 after rebate, etc).

 

[Red Hawk]

GIGABYTE GV-N750OC-2GI G-SYNC Support GeForce GTX 750 2GB 128-Bit GDDR5
$104.99
Save: $5.00 (5%)
$94.99 after $10.00 rebate card

!?

as for DAI, you are not comparing the same image quality, 900p is lower and the xbox is not running MSAA and other reductions compared to Ultra, the GTX 750 2GB can probably play the game better,

Ok fair enough, with a good deal you can get a 750 Ti or a 260x at prices close to $100. So, relatively close to the Xbox One, though the Xbox One can pull ahead in certain regards thanks to fixed hardware optimizations. But in any case, I'd still call around Xbox One level the entry level.

 

[ShintaiDK]

Lowend/Entry level.

 

[futurefields]

True enough, but people tend to give it a bump up due to close to metal APIs and optimizations.

only to be held back again by the 1.6ghz cpu

also 800mhz vs 1ghz clock speed

7870 is stronger than ps4 gpu

 

[SithSolo1]

I've seen R9 270s for $100 AR lately, and my friend just got an R9 280 for $130 AR. Its not the norm but its definitely possible to get a mid-range card for that price. Cards with no rebates are probably going to be on the low end of the spectrum though.

 

[ElFenix]

for gaming it's entry level. anything below that and you're not going to rise significantly above processor graphics enough to justify spending the money, imho.

if you just want to be able to run multiple video streams at once, a $30 card would be ok (in my experience intel's integrated graphics, on a haswell i3, bogs down on multiple video streams whereas even an old 5450 is fine).

 

[HumblePie]

If the person is paying MSRP new, then $100 is definitely on the lower end of the spectrum. Although one can get a decent $100 used that has a bit more power to it.

 

[SPBHM]

for gaming it's entry level. anything below that and you're not going to rise significantly above processor graphics enough to justify spending the money, imho.

ultra cheap PCs with let's say Haswell GT1 (Celeron, Pentium) are only going to have half the gaming performance or less than an $50-60 R7 240, and that's enough to make some unplayable games very playable,

but obviously both solutions are quite bad, compared to the $100 750s/260x