Would you change your religious views

[PlasmaBomb]

Originally posted by: aesthetics

Originally posted by: Chaotic42
It would be hard to prove that the Christian God, an entity who exists by faith alone, doesn't exist.

I don't mean that they have proven their religion to be accurate. I just mean if yours had been completely blown out of the water.

So... let me get this straight. The people thought that the Gods would kill the foreigners, and when they didn't the locals said "looks like we were wrong about our Gods existing. Lets follow theirs, even though we have no proof of them existing either..."

Seems perfectly reasonable...

 

[GagHalfrunt]

Originally posted by: PlasmaBomb

Originally posted by: aesthetics

Originally posted by: Chaotic42
It would be hard to prove that the Christian God, an entity who exists by faith alone, doesn't exist.

I don't mean that they have proven their religion to be accurate. I just mean if yours had been completely blown out of the water.

So... let me get this straight. The people thought that the Gods would kill the foreigners, and when they didn't the locals said "looks like we were wrong about our Gods existing. Lets follow theirs, even though we have no proof of them existing either..."

Seems perfectly reasonable...

If only it had happened that way. The heathens were converted to the peaceful and loving god the same way Christianity had spread through Europe, at the point of a sword. Their gods were not beaten by faith, the people were given a choice "Convert or die.... ummmm, because god loves you."

 

[PlasmaBomb]

Originally posted by: RichUK
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I have my own religion. In this religion I am God.

°_°

Then all we have to do to convince you of the one true religion is kill you, as obviously God can't die. Then in your dying breaths you can realise the error of your ways and convert...

Volunteers?

 

[clarkey01]

I believe in a higher being....a God....If I'm wrong I wont be in any trouble anyhow...

 

[Kirby]

Originally posted by: RichUK
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I have my own religion. In this religion I am God.

°_°

The God of Couches and Ghey Shoes!

WOT WOT!

 

[IronWing]

Originally posted by: PlasmaBomb

Originally posted by: RichUK
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I have my own religion. In this religion I am God.

°_°

Then all we have to do to convince you of the one true religion is kill you, as obviously God can't die. Then in your dying breaths you can realise the error of your ways and convert...

Volunteers?

Maybe his god can die so this would be insufficient nullification. There are less dramatic tests here. RichUK, do you like country music?

 

[aesthetics]

Originally posted by: PlasmaBomb

Originally posted by: aesthetics

Originally posted by: Chaotic42
It would be hard to prove that the Christian God, an entity who exists by faith alone, doesn't exist.

I don't mean that they have proven their religion to be accurate. I just mean if yours had been completely blown out of the water.

So... let me get this straight. The people thought that the Gods would kill the foreigners, and when they didn't the locals said "looks like we were wrong about our Gods existing. Lets follow theirs, even though we have no proof of them existing either..."

Seems perfectly reasonable...

Haha, I didn't write the book.... take that up with Chinua Achebe

 

[Nemesis 1]

You know you asked one of the best religious ? I have seen . Nice ?.

For me .Seemingly it would be easy. If one were to just live in the manner Christ tells us to.In respect to how we treat one to the other. But I have not seen one religious community live up to those simple demands.

The Ammish are a very good people who I respect deeply. There are others also.

But you can't isolate yourself from world community or your faith is not metaled in steel . Its bigger than that. So I see falt there and others.

I want to live in a community of christ. But I haven't seen anthing that Is structhered relisiuosly . Simple enough.

What Christ demands from us in so far as how we relate to each other. Is seemingly so easy yet I see it not. IN the community. There is always some religious dogma attached

You don't even have to believe in god. Still I see it not in the community.

I haven't seen none believers live by Christ simple demands . In so far as how we relate. (Its in the world but its just spread so thin now.) I know their out there I just haven't found them. If your religious than you except scripture. So you know in the end the Lords Lord cuts short the time. Because the Elete were endanger who's names are in the book of life. There are 144,000 of them . Left in the world right know today + 2 witnesses.

So you find me one of these . Post back here and give us the good news.

 

[clarkey01]

Sometimes I look at my hand and wonder why it works in the way it works, for me when people say " Evolution, science " as the answer to everything I can't seem to compute...It's seems like's it been thought out.

Then again I dont understand why some people are born only to die or born into a life full of pain...If there is an afterlife is this the admission?

 

[Chaotic42]

Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt

Originally posted by: Chaotic42
It would be hard to prove that the Christian God, an entity who exists by faith alone, doesn't exist.

It's not our job to prove he doesn't exist, it's his job to prove that he does.

Not according to the Christian religion.

 

[TridenT]

Originally posted by: Ns1

Originally posted by: Alone
Since I have no religious beliefs, someone would have to come and prove there was a God. I would welcome that.

This.


And by prove there was a god I mean raise Naploeon from the dead and have him walk on water.

Yep... Pretty much this and then some. (I could imagine someone replicating Naploen and then having him walk on what looks like water... but really is a very hard to see platform, you catch what I am saying?) Basically, that god would have to do some very radical shit to convince me.

 

[GagHalfrunt]

Originally posted by: Chaotic42

Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt

Originally posted by: Chaotic42
It would be hard to prove that the Christian God, an entity who exists by faith alone, doesn't exist.

It's not our job to prove he doesn't exist, it's his job to prove that he does.

Not according to the Christian religion.

Yes, because they invented a fairy tale and knew it couldn't be proven. Anyone that was sure they had a real omnipotent supreme being would have no trouble asking for and getting evidence of it.

 

[imported_Imp]

Heretic. Burn him!

 

[Eeezee]

Yes.

Unfortunately, your scenario is impossible.

 

[Nemesis 1]

Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt

Originally posted by: Chaotic42

Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt

Originally posted by: Chaotic42
It would be hard to prove that the Christian God, an entity who exists by faith alone, doesn't exist.

It's not our job to prove he doesn't exist, it's his job to prove that he does.

Not according to the Christian religion.

Yes, because they invented a fairy tale and knew it couldn't be proven. Anyone that was sure they had a real omnipotent supreme being would have no trouble asking for and getting evidence of it.

I suppose that if you haven't studied scripture from the Bible and others it would be easy to come to that same thoughtless decision if your going to argue against God in a debate Forum setting . At least know scripture so as to at least know what your debating. The belief in God is Faith Based and I witness testmony. To discredit these people you need to know the Facts.

One fact you may or may not have heard about. I don't know if its true I just kinda except it . Because its the only one thats a fit.

I spoke of the Book of life earlier. The book predates Man and any who lived on earth who go to heaven names are in the book . No names shall be removed from that list.

Ya might ask so What. Their was a War in Heaven . Michial and his Angles fought Luicifier and his Angles.. Now these Angles are still in heaven all of them. The angles who went along with Satan Cried they were decieved. Michial being fair. Than Created everthing Man was special. In some way, Each of us is seeming connected to each of these angles. The Bible hints at this. By giving us the understanding that Michial is Christ as a man (the Living Word). We also know all the anti-Cgrist stuff to . So Satan gets hes shot as a man also, He would be about 27-30 right now.

Some were questioning. Why some are born to the suffering of the flesh. When this war occurred some did not partake they stayed at the alter. Kind like fence walkers. But some still were very special They wouldn't join the fight because they loved GoD so Much they new God didn't want them to fight. These Are Mental retardation people. My flesh cries For them. My soul rejoices in their ignorance.
Michial didn't have to fight for God. God could do his own . That was the argument that got the defeated angles a small reprive befor their asses are thrown out of heaven . It is also why Michial (Christ) and his angles had to endure the suffering of the flesh.

This is why there is a book of life. There are many mystries that if you have the knowledge about. Makes one think .

So if your going to argue against God at least know who it is your dedating against.
You brought a firecracker to a war.

 

[FeuerFrei]

I'd like to think I'm not too dogmatic to be open-minded to evidence that I was wrong. You have to be willing to admit your understanding is incomplete, and that you don't have everything figured out.

It's kind of sad these tribes in Africa and American Indians, etc were so locked in to superstition that they were stagnant civilizations that never progressed or achieved anything noteworthy. Only when the gospel arrived did they learn how to live their lives, treat each other, and make their world a better place. Little wonder that those scientists who laid the groundwork for physical and earth sciences were mostly Christians.

 

[Kadarin]

Originally posted by: Nemesis 1

Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt

Originally posted by: Chaotic42

Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt

Originally posted by: Chaotic42
It would be hard to prove that the Christian God, an entity who exists by faith alone, doesn't exist.

It's not our job to prove he doesn't exist, it's his job to prove that he does.

Not according to the Christian religion.

Yes, because they invented a fairy tale and knew it couldn't be proven. Anyone that was sure they had a real omnipotent supreme being would have no trouble asking for and getting evidence of it.

I suppose that if you haven't studied scripture from the Bible and others it would be easy to come to that same thoughtless decision if your going to argue against God in a debate Forum setting . At least know scripture so as to at least know what your debating. The belief in God is Faith Based and I witness testmony. To discredit these people you need to know the Facts.

One fact you may or may not have heard about. I don't know if its true I just kinda except it . Because its the only one thats a fit.

I spoke of the Book of life earlier. The book predates Man and any who lived on earth who go to heaven names are in the book . No names shall be removed from that list.

Ya might ask so What. Their was a War in Heaven . Michial and his Angles fought Luicifier and his Angles.. Now these Angles are still in heaven all of them. The angles who went along with Satan Cried they were decieved. Michial being fair. Than Created everthing Man was special. In some way, Each of us is seeming connected to each of these angles. The Bible hints at this. By giving us the understanding that Michial is Christ as a man (the Living Word). We also know all the anti-Cgrist stuff to . So Satan gets hes shot as a man also, He would be about 27-30 right now.

Some were questioning. Why some are born to the suffering of the flesh. When this war occurred some did not partake they stayed at the alter. Kind like fence walkers. But some still were very special They wouldn't join the fight because they loved GoD so Much they new God didn't want them to fight. These Are Mental retardation people. My flesh cries For them bought my soul rejoices in their ignorance.
Michial didn't have to fight for God. God could do his own . That was the argument that got the defeated angles a small reprive befor their asses are thrown out of heaven . It is also why Michial (Christ) and his angles had to endure the suffering of the flesh.

This is why there is a book of life. There are many mystries that if you have the knowledge about. Makes one think .

So if your going to argue against God at least know who it is your dedating against.
You brought a firecracker to a war.

Useless post.

You recite a lot of dogma, but provide no evidence that any of it is any more real than Santa Claus. I can make up a steaming pile of dogma, too.

 

[IronWing]

Originally posted by: Nemesis 1

Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt

Originally posted by: Chaotic42

Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt

Originally posted by: Chaotic42
It would be hard to prove that the Christian God, an entity who exists by faith alone, doesn't exist.

It's not our job to prove he doesn't exist, it's his job to prove that he does.

Not according to the Christian religion.

Yes, because they invented a fairy tale and knew it couldn't be proven. Anyone that was sure they had a real omnipotent supreme being would have no trouble asking for and getting evidence of it.

I suppose that if you haven't studied scripture from the Bible and others it would be easy to come to that same thoughtless decision if your going to argue against God in a debate Forum setting . At least know scripture so as to at least know what your debating. The belief in God is Faith Based and I witness testmony. To discredit these people you need to know the Facts.

One fact you may or may not have heard about. I don't know if its true I just kinda except it . Because its the only one thats a fit.

I spoke of the Book of life earlier. The book predates Man and any who lived on earth who go to heaven names are in the book . No names shall be removed from that list.

Ya might ask so What. Their was a War in Heaven . Michial and his Angles fought Luicifier and his Angles.. Now these Angles are still in heaven all of them. The angles who went along with Satan Cried they were decieved. Michial being fair. Than Created everthing Man was special. In some way, Each of us is seeming connected to each of these angles. The Bible hints at this. By giving us the understanding that Michial is Christ as a man (the Living Word). We also know all the anti-Cgrist stuff to . So Satan gets hes shot as a man also, He would be about 27-30 right now.

Some were questioning. Why some are born to the suffering of the flesh. When this war occurred some did not partake they stayed at the alter. Kind like fence walkers. But some still were very special They wouldn't join the fight because they loved GoD so Much they new God didn't want them to fight. These Are Mental retardation people. My flesh cries For them bought my soul rejoices in their ignorance.
Michial didn't have to fight for God. God could do his own . That was the argument that got the defeated angles a small reprive befor their asses are thrown out of heaven . It is also why Michial (Christ) and his angles had to endure the suffering of the flesh.

This is why there is a book of life. There are many mystries that if you have the knowledge about. Makes one think .

So if your going to argue against God at least know who it is your dedating against.
You brought a firecracker to a war.

Your book speaks of gods yet neglects to mention cats even once.

 

[Nemesis 1]

You better learn what dogma is.

 

[GodlessAstronomer]

Originally posted by: clarkey01
Sometimes I look at my hand and wonder why it works in the way it works, for me when people say " Evolution, science " as the answer to everything I can't seem to compute...It's seems like's it been thought out.

Worst. Reasoning. Ever.

 

[AreaCode7O7]

Answer to OP: Yes, I would change. There would be a high bar for me though, to be convinced that the evidence presented was real. Reading in the news that they found the body of a guy they think was Jesus wouldn't quite cut it. There'd have to be a lot of physical proof there was not an error in identification, validated by both subjective and objective sources, without a lot of loose ends. Otherwise the evidence is indeterminate.

My faith is partially based on the testimonies of those present, and the fact that many of them died horrible deaths, profiting nothing, still proclaiming their experiences. It's possible they're wrong. If it were shown they were - Roman "war on drugs" records shown they were smoking the sheep droppings all along, then I'd be a fool to coninue my belief in Christianity...

And then I'd be back to Judiasm, waiting for Egyptian "war on drugs" records to disprove that faith.

 

[TridenT]

Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer

Originally posted by: clarkey01
Sometimes I look at my hand and wonder why it works in the way it works, for me when people say " Evolution, science " as the answer to everything I can't seem to compute...It's seems like's it been thought out.

Worst. Reasoning. Ever.

lol, it is. I just can't really think of any worse. I'm really loling because I just cannot! :'D

 

[sourceninja]

If you proved there was a god I would still not believe. I'm sure the last thing god wants is a quiter.

 

[SagaLore]

Originally posted by: aesthetics
So the question here is: If some outside people who you've never seen before showed up in your town and started proving all of your religious beliefs false, would you convert?

I wouldn't convert to anything new, but I would validate all the proof presented to me to make an informed decision.

 

[pstylesss]

Originally posted by: Nemesis 1

Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt

Originally posted by: Chaotic42

Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt

Originally posted by: Chaotic42
It would be hard to prove that the Christian God, an entity who exists by faith alone, doesn't exist.

It's not our job to prove he doesn't exist, it's his job to prove that he does.

Not according to the Christian religion.

Yes, because they invented a fairy tale and knew it couldn't be proven. Anyone that was sure they had a real omnipotent supreme being would have no trouble asking for and getting evidence of it.

I suppose that if you haven't studied scripture from the Bible and others it would be easy to come to that same thoughtless decision if your going to argue against God in a debate Forum setting . At least know scripture so as to at least know what your debating. The belief in God is Faith Based and I witness testmony. To discredit these people you need to know the Facts.

One fact you may or may not have heard about. I don't know if its true I just kinda except it . Because its the only one thats a fit.

I spoke of the Book of life earlier. The book predates Man and any who lived on earth who go to heaven names are in the book . No names shall be removed from that list.

Ya might ask so What. Their was a War in Heaven . Michial and his Angles fought Luicifier and his Angles.. Now these Angles are still in heaven all of them. The angles who went along with Satan Cried they were decieved. Michial being fair. Than Created everthing Man was special. In some way, Each of us is seeming connected to each of these angles. The Bible hints at this. By giving us the understanding that Michial is Christ as a man (the Living Word). We also know all the anti-Cgrist stuff to . So Satan gets hes shot as a man also, He would be about 27-30 right now.

Some were questioning. Why some are born to the suffering of the flesh. When this war occurred some did not partake they stayed at the alter. Kind like fence walkers. But some still were very special They wouldn't join the fight because they loved GoD so Much they new God didn't want them to fight. These Are Mental retardation people. My flesh cries For them. My soul rejoices in their ignorance.
Michial didn't have to fight for God. God could do his own . That was the argument that got the defeated angles a small reprive befor their asses are thrown out of heaven . It is also why Michial (Christ) and his angles had to endure the suffering of the flesh.

This is why there is a book of life. There are many mystries that if you have the knowledge about. Makes one think .

So if your going to argue against God at least know who it is your dedating against.
You brought a firecracker to a war.

No where in the Bible is there a "Michial". And if you're referring Michael the Archangel, then that most certainly is not Christ. Christ is not an angel at all.

What religion are you?

Ahh ha! You're a JW. There is absolutely zero point to me debating your falsities and screwed up doctrine. Oh, btw I think they already chose their 144,000.