Would You Buy Navi if It Was Bundled with Ryzen?

[guachi]

I debated whether to post this in the CPU forum or the GPU forum. But I'll put it here because everyone thinks Ryzen is the stronger product (compared to its rival).

Simple question: Would you buy (or recommend) Navi if it were bundled with Ryzen 3000 and you got, say, $50 off your total purchase?

For a new build, it seems like a good deal. Most of us would probably buy/recommend Ryzen anyway so it basically ends up being $50 off a Navi card and that makes Navi a great deal, imo.

 

[inf64]

Hmm, good question. I do prefer NV cards for gaming but since Navi is so close to 2070 Super I guess I'd had to give a long hard look.

PS Ryzen 3000 is a no brainer purchase (coming from intel+NV user)

 

[Mechanical Man]

Yeah I would if paired with relevant cpu. With 3900x I would not.

 

[Glo.]

Ryzen 5 3600+ RX 5700 for 500$?

That might be very good deal, if such bundle would ever exist...

 

[mopardude87]

If a fresh build oh yeah absolutely. That $50 could mean the difference in a budget between a 500gb SSD to a 1TB. Its a a 30 pack of beer and a couple Pizza hut pizzas to go with the build! Or a quality 12 pack and the pizza anyways. Take your pick!

 

[Topweasel]

Yeah I would if paired with relevant cpu. With 3900x I would not.

This is key. I used to make cheap mid range systems every year or two as my more portable gaming PC. If I was doing a 3600 and I could get that bundled with a 5700 that would be fantastic. But with the 3900x I am not looking for mid level equipment and in fact already have a Radeon VII for it.

 

[Kenmitch]

Only if I got to pick the options. Maybe I'd bump up with a greater discounted bundle?

 

[HurleyBird]

The smart way to do this would be to increase the savings as you move up the stack. For example, if 3600 + 5700 saves you $50, while 3950X + 5700XT saves you $200 with other combinations falling roughly along that line, then it becomes much easier for a person who was originally going to buy a 3600 and a 2060 to convince himself that he should replace that 2060 with a Radeon, and then replace that 3600 with a 3700X, and so on and so forth.

The point is that you aren't just using the bundle deal to sell Radeons, but also to psychologically ease people into buying the ultra-high end Ryzen SKUs. Since the high end Ryzens are priced much higher than what AMD would traditionally charge AMD has a lot of room for bundle specific discounts.

 

[ondma]

no

 

[IEC]

There are few bad products, generally it is bad pricing that is the issue.

Knocking $50 off the price is a step in the right direction. I still have no interest in a Navi preorder. Now if Newegg bundles one with a Ryzen 3000 series CPU and knocks an additional $50 (or more) off, I might consider something I wasn't considering...

Relevant: AMD knocks $50 off Navi pricing

 

[ubern00b]

I'll likely buy Navi and Ryzen 2, bundle or not. I bought my Ryzen 1600 (non X) first gen for £/$200 upon first release and though that seems somewhat expensive now, remember when Ryzen 1 first came out you could pay $300-$400 for an Intel 4c/8t, you want 6c/12t? that's HEDT, you need to pay up big bucks for that, and now what do we see? Intel charging $200 for 6c/6t CPU, this was unheard of before Ryzen. So yes, I have a Ryzen 2 upgrade earmarked and while I'm at it, albeit not at the same time, I will likely buy a Navi GPU to replace my trusted RX 580, hopefully by the time I'm ready for that upgrade big Navi will be here and I can grab a 5700 XT for £200-£250

 

[turtile]

I wonder if this would force Intel and Nvidia to work together with a competing bundle.

I would buy it if I wanted one of the cards but at this point, I have no need for a gaming card.

 

[ubern00b]

I wonder if this would force Intel and Nvidia to work together with a competing bundle.

I would buy it if I wanted one of the cards but at this point, I have no need for a gaming card.

Why would Intel work with Nvidia? they are developing their own GPU range with Intel Xe which is slated for release 2020

 

[turtile]

Why would Intel work with Nvidia? they are developing their own GPU range with Intel Xe which is slated for release 2020

Just for the short term. Intel still doesn't have anything on the market.

 

[guachi]

Relevant: AMD knocks $50 off Navi pricing

I'm actually surprised they went with a straight price cut unless they were sandbagging the entire time. Kinda makes my post obsolete.

But bundles when *both* the CPU and GPU are new seemed like a no-brainer.

 

[ubern00b]

We're halfway through 2019, there's no reason Intel would need to work with Nvidia for 6-12 months

 

[maddie]

no

I guess the anagram was correct.

 

[mopardude87]

Relevant: AMD knocks $50 off Navi pricing

Oh lord have mercy, a bundle if ever came out on top of that holy heck you would be kind of crazy to go Intel and Nvidia. The Ryzen 3000 series alone at current prices makes a Intel choice outside of perhaps extreme cases kind of irrelevant and even with benchmarks about here well Intel may have absolutely no leg to stand on.

You would be certifiably crazy to even choose Intel AFTER the benchmarks. The current Ryzen chips already do a fair job of making Intel irrelevant in many cases and then here comes the 3000 series to put a nail in Intels coffin. Oh man if you don't got popcorn and a drink in your hands when checking out benchmarks on the 7th then get it right now.

Me if someone chooses a Intel chip not a 9900k over the Ryzen 3000 series.

 

[chrisjames61]

I'm actually surprised they went with a straight price cut unless they were sandbagging the entire time. Kinda makes my post obsolete.

But bundles when *both* the CPU and GPU are new seemed like a no-brainer.

There is speculation that AMD sandbagged with the early Navi pricing. Nvidia.

 

[dark zero]

If that bundle exists...
Me on Bison Mode: OF COURSE!

 

[DarthKyrie]

Ryzen 5 3600+ RX 5700 for 500$?

That might be very good deal, if such bundle would ever exist...

I was thinking 3600 and 5700 with an x570 MB and 16 GB (2x8GB) for $750.

 

[gdansk]

It's a good idea but they will delay it until they need promotions to move more units. As is I suspect they'll be supply constrained for a few months at least.

And how about integrated? Imagine if AMD had the resources not to be 10-14 months behind on APUs.

 

[DarthKyrie]

It's a good idea but they will delay it until they need promotions to move more units. As is I suspect they'll be supply constrained for a few months at least.

And how about integrated? Imagine if AMD had the resources not to be 10-14 months behind on APUs.

I can't wait for the GPU chiplets to be paired with Zen2 but we may have to wait til Zen3 for those.

 

[Shmee]

A good idea, but I already have plenty of GPUs at the moment.

 

[DrMrLordX]

Personally, no, since I already have Radeon VII. If I were stuck with VegaFE I might consider it. But I would rather save a few dollars and experiment with overclocking a 5700 than get a 5700XT.

no

It's okay. I would not buy an nVidia card so I understand. I think? The question is whether or not you would recommend an AMD card to anyone even if it happened to be the best available deal for their use case.

I guess the anagram was correct.

Give him credit. He's consistent.

I was thinking 3600 and 5700 with an x570 MB and 16 GB (2x8GB) for $750.

AMD has tried their hand with memory before (by running their own brand). It did not work out so well for them. Also, bundling a specific board might irritate other board partners. That's the kind of bundle Microcenter et al. can put together. AMD doesn't have that flexibility.