Would you buy it?

[Blayze]

Originally posted by: jman19
The DC is awesome, it is a shame it didn't make it

:thumbsup:

Awesome system, and I would be interested in another Sega system. Although I don't know if having 4 consoles would be a good ideal.

 

[erwos]

Originally posted by: CasioTech
I said TONS OF SWEET INDIE GAMES.

obviously they aren't released in the mainstream market.

Well, clearly not. But I question your assertion that even tons of these "sweet indie games" are being made and published on GD-ROM. Link? Hint: a ton is not five. I don't even think Sega is making GD-ROMs anymore.

as for nobody selling new/used DC games, have you checked amazon or ebay? I get all my DC stuffs from there. Amazon has used copies of almost every DC game ever made and lots of new copies (if you have the money for them)

Not relevant. The average consumer walks into Best Buy, Gamestop, or some other store to buy their games - they're not prowling the used goods sections of Amazon. I feel the same way about the PS3's emulation of the PS1 - nice to have, but someone just getting into consoles is probably going to get almost zero use out of it.

 

[PeanutButter]

I wouldn't. But what the world needs is another Seaman.

 

[CasioTech]

Originally posted by: erwos

Originally posted by: CasioTech
I said TONS OF SWEET INDIE GAMES.

obviously they aren't released in the mainstream market.

Well, clearly not. But I question your assertion that even tons of these "sweet indie games" are being made and published on GD-ROM. Link? Hint: a ton is not five. I don't even think Sega is making GD-ROMs anymore.

as for nobody selling new/used DC games, have you checked amazon or ebay? I get all my DC stuffs from there. Amazon has used copies of almost every DC game ever made and lots of new copies (if you have the money for them)

Not relevant. The average consumer walks into Best Buy, Gamestop, or some other store to buy their games - they're not prowling the used goods sections of Amazon. I feel the same way about the PS3's emulation of the PS1 - nice to have, but someone just getting into consoles is probably going to get almost zero use out of it.

who needs GD-roms when DC games are distributed on regular CD's?

who are you to say where the 'average' consumer shops? Last time I checked, Amazon and ebay sell millions of copies of used games and media each year through independent sellers. You need to rethink where consumers spend their money these days. Online shopping and having the game you want delivered > going to a store and wasting time and gas and not finding what you are seeking.

I sell so much media using amazon it's not even funny. Where else can people find old gamecube games or dreamcast games they will never find in a store? Stores only have new games but gamers don't just play the new games... and lots of people don't support gamestop because their used games are without boxes, manuals and usually damaged in some way or another (especially if it's an older game.) and gamestop as a whole isn't worth supporting in my book.

In fact, I'll wager the average wii owner is 'prowling' the used goods section of Amazon looking for great gamecube games vs. buying new crappy wii games from target or best buy.

 

[AstroManLuca]

Originally posted by: KaOTiK
No, because 95% of their software has sucked ass since they left the hardware side. So no exclusive good games = no buy.

It is all about the games

Why did the thread keep going after this post?

The hardware does not matter beyond what it physically allows the console to be able to do. Talk as much as you want about what CPU and GPU you'd put in it - the fact is, it won't matter, because no one other than game developers and dick-measurers go on and on about their console's hardware. The real question is, are there any good games?

If you look at what Sega has done in the past few years, you should already know the answer to that question.

 

[nismotigerwvu]

Originally posted by: Injury

Originally posted by: nismotigerwvu

Originally posted by: Injury
Maybe you should realize that this idea pretty much stinks because the target audience you had in mind is YOU and what YOU would want.
.

And your post stinks becuase it is what you think and you just stink in general.

lol... no, it's not what I think, it's the truth. Don't cry like a 12 year old because I shot down the idea as not reasonable.

Just face that a niche market game console would never work.

Wgich again is more of your opinion. I'm guessing either your sarcasm is broken or you just believe that no one could ever mock you. I already stated it isn't going to happen, which in and of itself makes it a dumb idea. This is all just hypothetical, and seeing what other people think. Believe it or not, you contributed, and in a good way. Some people would just feel negative about this, just like some would be excited. It's the ratio I'm looking for here.

 

[Piuc2020]

Originally posted by: CasioTech
Doesn't the 360 have mostly modified PC hardware in it? Are you saying that the RRoD is from them not using stable PC components but opting to use modified proprietary hardware?

Stop pushing this issue, it's all transistors and silicon anyways, computing in general works the same.

For that matter though, the 360 is different from traditional PCs because it has a PowerPC processor while traditional PCs use x86s processors.

The RRODs are not because of "unstable modified propietary hardware" to begin with, it's not even propietary, heck, not even highly specialized consoles like the Saturn were "propietary". It's just a flaw in Microsoft's design for the form factor of the 360 and cost-cutting in manufacturing.

 

[erwos]

Originally posted by: CasioTech

who needs GD-roms when DC games are distributed on regular CD's?

Except, they're not. Unless you're talking about pirated games. The only reason you can run a game off a CD is through a hack. No official games ever ran off CDs, to the best of my knowledge. Feel free to prove me wrong, though.

who are you to say where the 'average' consumer shops? Last time I checked, Amazon and ebay sell millions of copies of used games and media each year through independent sellers. You need to rethink where consumers spend their money these days. Online shopping and having the game you want delivered > going to a store and wasting time and gas and not finding what you are seeking.

And, of those, what percent are PS1 and Dreamcast games? I'm sure eBay and Amazon sell millions of used games per year. I'm not sure I believe that they sell quantities of PS1 and DC games that really make any sort of market impact compared to newer releases - certainly not enough to make a console's "BC with DC" functionality a really big feature.

And there's no need for this confrontational "who are you to say" BS, especially when you're not quoting any sources for your sales data.

 

[CasioTech]

I'm not getting confrontational, though the DC may not have a huge user base it sells accordingly.

but take a look at the GC, gamestop is phasing out gamecube games over the next year and there are millions of wii owners who want to look into all the great gamecube games they missed because either they are getting into the whole wiiware/BC and from word of mouth. Ebay and Amazon is the only place to get the goods.

as for the hack, indie developers release their games for free online so users d/l them and put them on cd's and I'm pretty sure that's legit.

 

[erwos]

Originally posted by: CasioTech
but take a look at the GC, gamestop is phasing out gamecube games over the next year and there are millions of wii owners who want to look into all the great gamecube games they missed because either they are getting into the whole wiiware/BC and from word of mouth. Ebay and Amazon is the only place to get the goods.

Again, some real sales numbers as to how many of these Wii owners are really buying GC games would be good. You are excellent at constructing a reality that DC BC means something significant, but you are failing at providing convincing arguments that that reality is the same one we live in.

as for the hack, indie developers release their games for free online so users d/l them and put them on cd's and I'm pretty sure that's legit.

It's not. The hack to do so involves copyrighted Sega code (in BOOT.BIN), and is most certainly illegal. People may not be prosecuted for it, but any licensed DC emulation would need to close that loophole.

 

[CasioTech]

Originally posted by: erwos

Again, some real sales numbers as to how many of these Wii owners are really buying GC games would be good. You are excellent at constructing a reality that DC BC means something significant, but you are failing at providing convincing arguments that that reality is the same one we live in.

I never said DC BC means anything. I simply said that the DC had kick ass games. Then you went on to say....

Not relevant. The average consumer walks into Best Buy, Gamestop, or some other store to buy their games - they're not prowling the used goods sections of Amazon.

Completely recockulous. When in fact most games sold are USED not NEW.

a game has only one owner when it's new and a very short shelf life but will exchange multiple owners once it becomes a used game over time selling itself over and over again.

Gamestop didn't get rich selling new games btw.