Would WET be considered racist?

[ViperMagic]

Heres my take on the whole situation:

This will probably never work, buts its my view, so if your gonan flame me for it fvuk you.

People want racial haromeny. So why do we have BET? Why do we have teh Negro College fun? Why do we have hate crimes? There should be no difference in the way a Black, White, Asian, Hispanic, or Pickel-mustace man is treated.

 

[Maetryx]

Recent demographics show that the US population is about 12% black. That's a little less than 1/8. Since our population is not even close to homogenous, blacks are concentrated in various regions, and scarce in other regions of the country.

Now, television is a capitalistic venture in which producers select programs that will likely entice corporations to run advertisements. It ought not to be a social engineering tool, but it certainly works out that way. In as much as television shapes the thinking of this country, I think it is tragic to include special black channels and agitate for more black presence on mainstream channels, all the while rejecting the idea that a white person needs to see white people to be happy.

If blacks deserve to see blacks, why don't whites deserve to see whites on TV? Why can't Friends be all white? Maybe I feel more comfortable watching a show that features all white people.

 

[mithrandir2001]

<< Now, television is a capitalistic venture in which producers select programs that will likely entice corporations to run advertisements...I think it is tragic to include special black channels and agitate for more black presence on mainstream channels... >>


Consider what you are saying. Yes, TV is basically about money. But what do many advertisers want? Targetted audiences. Many products and services are consumed in higher amounts by certain elements of the population. Consider the national evening news (Brokow, Jennings, etc). Many of their viewers are older, educated and financially stable. This group is also a major consumer of pharmaceutical products and that's why half of the ads during the programming are for Celebrex, Vioxx, Nexium, etc.

The worst shows for advertisers are those that have a very generic audience. A channel like BET offers appealing value to advertisers because they can claim they have a very focussed and well-defined audience. There's nothing tragic here. If anything, BET is purely capitalistic.

 

[MichaelD]

Bump for me, since I was the one that mentioned "WET" in another thread from yesterday. Same concept, same question. I personally think it's OK to have BET. However, I also think we should have WET and LET and AET and UET (Undecided Entertainment Television) What is good for the Goose should also be good for the Gander. Fair is fair, correct? Or is it?


Let the discussion continue. I want to see the knuckleheads come out of the woodwork.

 

[AreaCode707]

Correct me if I'm wrong because I'm getting my info from an earlier thread on this topic but... doesn't BET try to hire only blacks for their upper management? Reverse discrimination, if there were a station called WET that would definitely be called racist.

 

[MichaelD]

Yes, Hotchic, you are correct. And that (the upper management thing) is correct. Someone care to try to defend that as "not racist?"

 

[Muadib]

Correct me if I'm wrong because I'm getting my info from an earlier thread on this topic but... doesn't BET try to hire only blacks
Since it is owned by Viacom, I highly doubt it.

 

[bmd]

<< Mithrandir: "irregardless Simpson's ....." >>



And irregardless of your grammar, I still agree with some of the things you say.

 

[LethalWolfe]

<< Correct me if I'm wrong because I'm getting my info from an earlier thread on this topic but... doesn't BET try to hire only blacks for their upper management? Reverse discrimination, if there were a station called WET that would definitely be called racist. >>




Pet peeve here. There is no such thing as "reverse discrimination." There is only discrimination.


Lethal

 

[pg22]

<FONT face=Verdana size=1>LethalWolfe -

Could you explain why reverse discrimination is a grammatical error? I've heard the term so many times I figured it was normal.

Thanks </FONT>

 

[pg22]

What the hell? Why does it do that?? I can't even fix it...LOL

 

[AreaCode707]

He's right, reverse discrimination makes no sense unless you define the term discrimination to always mean whites discriminating against blacks. Therefore reverse discrimination would be blacks discriminating against whites. But since discrimination just means one group discriminating against another, reverse discrimination has no meaning.

 

[pg22]

So if it did have any meaning, it would actually mean equality...lol

 

[Maetryx]

mithrandir2001,

But my sentence shouldn't be broken where you ended the quote. I don't think it is a problem to have black channels. I think it is tragic that there are racial double standards. Here is the entire sentence.



<< I think it is tragic to include special black channels and agitate for more black presence on mainstream channels, all the while rejecting the idea that a white person needs to see white people to be happy. >>



In other words, the idea that blacks need to be managed by, entertained by, governed by, and educated by other blacks is often the platform for various grievances from that group. But, like my good friend MichaelD pointed out, what's good for the goose is good for the gander. Not to mention that it runs totally counter to the idea of integration, wherein blacks have a RIGHT to be with whites, not other blacks.

 

[LethalWolfe]

<< <FONT face=Verdana size=1>LethalWolfe -

Could you explain why reverse discrimination is a grammatical error? I've heard the term so many times I figured it was normal.

Thanks </FONT> >>



I'm gonna use racism as an example 'cause I think it will be easier to illistrate the point. Racism, according to dictionary.com, is "Discrimination or prejudice based on race." Racism doesn't mean "whites discriminating against non-whites." If racism did mean "whites discriminating against non-whites" then "reverse racism" would be a vaild term (it would mean "non-whites discriminating against whites), but "racism" isn't a race specific term.

Did that make any sense?


Lethal

EDIT: HotChic, you explained that so much better I did

 

[veryape]

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<< The idea of a black-only network is stupid. >>

Tell that to the Latinos, Arabs, Koreans, Russians, etc. that all have their own cable/air channels around here. Is it stupid because you feel it is not revelent to you? >>


No, I believe he thinks it's stupid because it's hipocritical to have BET but then when whites suggest a white only channel or WET we get called racist or are told that we have not had enough injustice in our culture. WTF!!!

Some people need to see things for what they are worth. Instead of constantly playing the race card and trying to segretgate your race except when it's beneficial to you what you should be doing is trying to get along without separating yourself from society but then expecting all the benefits of being a member of that society.

This is a very touchy subject for me and I think a lot of people of a certain race tend to constantly separate themselves from anyone who is different from them but claim racism when someone of another race does the same. It's called hipocracy and it makes me sick. FLAME ON!!!!!

 

[jhu]

European American (aka white) channel.

no one would watch the european american channel. the european channel, on the other hand, all guys would watch. they've got much raunchier programming over there than us prudish americans

 

[Dolemite69]

<< I think it would be totally appropriate to have a European American (aka white) channel. I think the denial of the existence of white culture and white interests is harmful to the white race.

Whites are socially limited to multiculturalism and tolerance, the background matrix in which minority groups form cohesive racial identities. I think the shrill objections to white solidarity stem from a basic understanding that the various racial gaps would become glaring chasms of separation if the shrinking white majority became a cohesive group. >>



Yea... what he said...

Seriously though, that was some stand-up sh!t man... 10-4...

 

[pg22]

Are you guys serious? lol....

I don't see how different it would be than Fox, ABC, NBC, and CBS?

 

[glenn1]

<< Would WET be considered racist? >>



Wow... an entire channel devoted to dorky white guys? Sign me up!!!

 

[chiwawa626]

I dont think it would matter UNLESS it is better programing then lets say BET....imean have u watched the crap on bet...lol

 

[MichaelD]

Maetryx, Veryape and Hotchic all brought up very good points. I like good discussion. What bothers me is the double standard. BET is OK, but WET is not. And another thing. I am very thick-skinned. Calling me Vinny Pizza Boy or Guinea Wop or Spaghetti Stan doesn't bother me a bit. It's just words. However, I don't use racial slurs in my language...I curse enough (potty mouth) but I stay away from "hot button" words. Oh, my point!

WET is not TNN, OK? I get the joke...I'm pretty quick on the throughput, you know. But it's not, allrighty? Yeah, it's most country music (which I don't care for...some of it is OK to two-step to, but all that whining stuff sucks) and motor sports (hey, motorsports is cool!) but they do have other programming you know.

BTW, before you laugh at me for admitting that I can two step. Let me clue you in on something. If you are male, anywhere from 18 to 80, and wish to have meaningful physical contact with a female, here in South Texas, you must learn to two step. It's either that, or masturbate furiously. I don't know about you, but I prefer the actual women. I'm out.

 

[classy]

<< Correct me if I'm wrong because I'm getting my info from an earlier thread on this topic but... doesn't BET try to hire only blacks for their upper management? Reverse discrimination, if there were a station called WET that would definitely be called racist. >>



HotChic you may be hot, but your not to bright. Not only is that not true. BET is owned by.......................drum roll please...........................................White People. Tah Dah

 

[Sir Fredrick]

If we were whites living in a black society then maybe we'd deserve a WET...but since we're whites living in a white society, just about every channel is WET, with very few exceptions.

When blacks and other minorities appear regularly on other channels/have their own shows on other channels, then BET will be wrong because it DOES segregate, and it is unequal. But I think that whites have to make the move towards equality first - if minorities just sat down and took what we gave them without ever complaining, they'd never get anywhere.

 

[Cyberian]

Is the problem with the programming or with the name?

If BET changed its name to Acme Entertainment Television would that be OK?