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cytg111

cytg111

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Take a look and hear at this

Putin on the subject on Biden, he speaks the vast majority of time on Trump, fluffing him up.
This is the "strong leader" Putin, moving on the ultra right wing of your country.
Imagine proud boys leader gets a poke from some spez nas like moterfucker... I mean, are you team country or are you team Trump?

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Hear how Vladimir Putin compared Donald Trump to President Joe Biden - CNN Video

In an interview with NBC, Russian President Vladimir Putin discussed the relationship between his country and the US, and compared President Biden to his predecessor Donald Trump. CNN's Kaitlan Collins reports.
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I've been seeing this coming for years.
 
kage69

kage69

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Putin was never involved with any of the units collectively known as spetsnaz, far as I know.

He was a low level operative in Dresden that never went far on account on his language skills, but still networked himself connections as a junior officer. He made a name for himself in communist circles by procuring Western merchandise for others. After the fall of the wall when their economy tanked, he was put in charge of St. Petersburg, running it like his own fiefdom where if you paid him you got your way. It was a la carte service for bratva and ex KGB looking to shore up their lifestyles.

Putin would prefer his American counterpart to be an idiot, to have even less of a grasp of English than he does. Being someone he can blackmail obviously works great for him too. All of this he had with Trump. Of course he misses his asset that made life for him easier.
 
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cytg111 said:
Take a look and hear at this

Putin on the subject on Biden, he speaks the vast majority of time on Trump, fluffing him up.
This is the "strong leader" Putin, moving on the ultra right wing of your country.
Imagine proud boys leader gets a poke from some spez nas like moterfucker... I mean, are you team country or are you team Trump?

www.cnn.com

Hear how Vladimir Putin compared Donald Trump to President Joe Biden - CNN Video

In an interview with NBC, Russian President Vladimir Putin discussed the relationship between his country and the US, and compared President Biden to his predecessor Donald Trump. CNN's Kaitlan Collins reports.
www.cnn.com www.cnn.com

I've been seeing this coming for years.
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Just good old Putin trolling.
 
cytg111

cytg111

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Trolling is too mild a term, he is directly targeting Americans that will willingly turn hostile foreign agents.
That was what I was getting at.
Expect more #Russia normalization on the right wing soon.
 
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kage69 said:
Putin was never involved with any of the units collectively known as spetsnaz, far as I know.

He was a low level operative in Dresden that never went far on account on his language skills, but still networked himself connections as a junior officer. He made a name for himself in communist circles by procuring Western merchandise for others. After the fall of the wall when their economy tanked, he was put in charge of St. Petersburg, running it like his own fiefdom where if you paid him you got your way. It was a la carte service for bravta and ex KGB looking to shore up their lifestyles.

Putin would prefer his American counterpart to be an idiot, to have even less of a grasp of English than he does. Being someone he can blackmail obviously works great for him too. All of this he had with Trump. Of course he misses his asset that made life for him easier.
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He also shat himself bigly when Moscow didn't back him up when the wall fell.
 
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Over the four years of Trump siding with Putin over our own intelligence agencies in matters of national security along with Trump's well known hatred for our intelligence agencies, the media and his turning on our long-time allies as if THEY were our enemies thus creating an aura of suspicion and distrust among them and ourselves, Trump had also managed to critically weaken our nation by dividing it and turning it on itself giving our enemies exactly what they wanted: a nation in turmoil unable to unite itself to this very day.

Trump and the Repubs are the direct cause of this in their efforts to hold on to the power they deceived the nation into giving them. They want authoritarianism, plutocracy, autocracy, theocracy, well anyhing but democracy to be the nation's guiding light into the future because it give them the power they couldn't get any other way.
 
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kage69 said:
Putin was never involved with any of the units collectively known as spetsnaz, far as I know.

He was a low level operative in Dresden that never went far on account on his language skills, but still networked himself connections as a junior officer. He made a name for himself in communist circles by procuring Western merchandise for others. After the fall of the wall when their economy tanked, he was put in charge of St. Petersburg, running it like his own fiefdom where if you paid him you got your way. It was a la carte service for bravta and ex KGB looking to shore up their lifestyles.

Putin would prefer his American counterpart to be an idiot, to have even less of a grasp of English than he does. Being someone he can blackmail obviously works great for him too. All of this he had with Trump. Of course he misses his asset that made life for him easier.
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I think it’s pretty likely that Putin has blackmail material on Trump, as that explains Trump’s obsequious behavior towards him. More than anything though I think Putin was happy to see a kindred spirit in a person who is purely transactional. Putin doesn’t care about the well-being of Russia any further than as it serves him and he saw the same thing in Trump.

It’s why Trump had so much trouble with democratic countries and got along so easily with autocrats. If you aren’t a democracy the two leaders can just trade personal favors because they don’t really give a shit about their people. Democracies on the other hand are generally legally prohibited from bribing foreign leaders so Germany and the EU couldn’t give Trump what he wanted.

So criminal recognizes criminal, basically.
 
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WelshBloke said:
Trump's just one of those classic bullies, as soon as he sees someone he perceives as tougher than him he has a new crush.
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It’s a plausible explanation that he’s so psychologically needy that he does this but to me the most likely answer is the simple one. Trump sucks up to Putin because he’s afraid of him and he thinks Putin can hurt him.
 
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Trump still trusts Russia more than the US intelligence services.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1403109799689080839

Russia was always nice to him and told him things he wanted to hear. The intelligence community, OTOH, told him the truth.

Or to put it as Groucho would have, Trump would never trust a government of which he was the head. Smartest thing he’s ever said.
 
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VRAMdemon said:
Trump still trusts Russia more than the US intelligence services.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1403109799689080839

Russia was always nice to him and told him things he wanted to hear. The intelligence community, OTOH, told him the truth.

Or to put it as Groucho would have, Trump would never trust a government of which he was the head. Smartest thing he’s ever said.
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I wish these guys would stop tweeting about the orange menace.
The menace still craves the attention and he wants to be relevant again.
 
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VRAMdemon said:
Trump still trusts Russia more than the US intelligence services.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1403109799689080839

Russia was always nice to him and told him things he wanted to hear. The intelligence community, OTOH, told him the truth.

Or to put it as Groucho would have, Trump would never trust a government of which he was the head. Smartest thing he’s ever said.
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Authoritarians like Trump all share the same fear of being deposed for the very reasons they feel the need to be the despots that they are. Absolute power requires absolute control of the masses. That creates dissension, protests and calls for change. As a result, these self-made dictators become paranoid, fearful of being overthrown due to their prioritizing their own desires over the needs of the people they rule over. Trump and Putin are so much alike in how they feel and see themselves as leaders of nations. Avarice is their guiding light. Iron fists are the tools of their trade.

If my vague memory serves, there were benevolent despots sprinkled throughout the world's history, but they certainly were the rare exception to the rule.
 
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WelshBloke said:
He also shat himself bigly when Moscow didn't back him up when the wall fell.
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That's true, but that's also not an unreasonable response for someone in his position at that time. Regime change can be scary shit where the people you've been working with for years are either ghosts, or suddenly trying to imprison or kill you. Think post Shah Iran.

It clearly stuck with him, he's open about calling it "the worst political disaster of the 20th century." Likely contributed to his reaction to the Maidan Square protests, then Crimea and Donbass. Bothered him so much he started a paramilitary reserve corps that answers to him, in case he needs to put down another Maidan.
 
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cytg111

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He sees what other world leaders see, weakness. Biden is weak.
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You cant be serious. World leaders cheers on Biden and the US under Biden ... but is holding its breath cause EVERYONE is eyeing 2024 2028, is the US gonna pull another Trump, descend into minority rule, throw away democracy?

You are a moron if you think Trump was perceived as STRONG by either ally or foe. NO ONE besides you beta cucks perceived him as strong. *NO ONE*.

Only fucker who came out as strong during Trump was Putin.

Morons.
 
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