Would now be a good time for Israel to attack Iran

[seemingly random]

Originally posted by: Harvey

Originally posted by: Ocguy31



You can be for equal rights, but against Wahabbi/Fundamental Islam.

Not everyone falls into A or B thinking.

Now, I'm totally confused. What does Wahabbi/Fundamental Islam have to do with the logistics, strategy or reasons to condone Israel attacking Iran, right now?

You fail to make sense on any level. :roll:

:laugh:
You knocked his [online] lights out.

 

[StageLeft]

This is the exact window some said Israel would use, so we have two months to find out.

 

[counterstrikedude]

Originally posted by: Harvey

Originally posted by: Ocguy31



You can be for equal rights, but against Wahabbi/Fundamental Islam.

Not everyone falls into A or B thinking.

Now, I'm totally confused. What does Wahabbi/Fundamental Islam have to do with the logistics, strategy or reasons to condone Israel attacking Iran, right now?

You fail to make sense on any level. :roll:

If by logistics, strategy, or reasons, you mean blinded diplomacy, ignorance, and naivity, then yes. Codoning Israel for attacking Iran just for the sake of the bandwagon isn't reason enough. I can't see any reason why Israel WOULDN'T blow the f**k out of Iran. I'm sure if Britain, the U.S, or any other "concerned" state took Israel's place, they wouldn't have have the patience Israel has.

Israel better act now before Obama becomes the next Chamberlain.

 

[Throckmorton]

I have yet to see an explanation of why Israel would attack Iran

 

[bamacre]

Originally posted by: jackschmittusa
America is about to enter a new phase of foreign policy...

Oh? How so?

 

[Ozoned]

Now Would now be a good time for Israel to ask Iran publically what exactly it is that Iran wants from Israel....

 

[counterstrikedude]

Originally posted by: Throckmorton
I have yet to see an explanation of why Israel would attack Iran

uhhh...Iran's pursuit of nuclear weapons?

Or is that too simple and you need some b.s sprinkled on top?

 

[seemingly random]

Originally posted by: counterstrikedude

Originally posted by: Throckmorton
I have yet to see an explanation of why Israel would attack Iran

uhhh...Iran's pursuit of nuclear weapons?

Or is that too simple and you need some b.s sprinkled on top?

Are they? How do you know?

 

[counterstrikedude]

Originally posted by: seemingly random

Originally posted by: counterstrikedude

Originally posted by: Throckmorton
I have yet to see an explanation of why Israel would attack Iran

uhhh...Iran's pursuit of nuclear weapons?

Or is that too simple and you need some b.s sprinkled on top?

Are they? How do you know?

uhhh cause they said so?

unless of course you buy the peaceful purposes mantra....

 

[seemingly random]

Originally posted by: counterstrikedude

Originally posted by: seemingly random

Originally posted by: counterstrikedude

Originally posted by: Throckmorton
I have yet to see an explanation of why Israel would attack Iran

uhhh...Iran's pursuit of nuclear weapons?

Or is that too simple and you need some b.s sprinkled on top?

Are they? How do you know?

uhhh cause they said so?

unless of course you buy the peaceful purposes mantra....

Iran said they are pursuing nuclear weapons?

 

[counterstrikedude]

Originally posted by: seemingly random

Originally posted by: counterstrikedude

Originally posted by: seemingly random

Originally posted by: counterstrikedude

Originally posted by: Throckmorton
I have yet to see an explanation of why Israel would attack Iran

uhhh...Iran's pursuit of nuclear weapons?

Or is that too simple and you need some b.s sprinkled on top?

Are they? How do you know?

uhhh cause they said so?

unless of course you buy the peaceful purposes mantra....

Iran said they are pursuing nuclear weapons?

.....

no, they pursuing to become a nuclear-capable country - whether that entails weapons or not remains to be seen, but their refusal to cooperate and threats to annihilate a neighboring country should sound alarms for logical thinkers.

 

[Lemon law]

Its really a question of using Israeli nukes or not, without using nukes, Israel is too small, too far away, and too vulnerable
to do any real damage to Iran that has buried its nuclear facilities deep. And any such strike will stoke universal Arab anger while igniting fatal proxy wars that will bury Israel in violence.

Of course if Israel uses nukes without a damn good reason, its the end of the State of Israel as it will instantly become a pariah nation, stripped of all legitimacy, and damn lucky if it escapes being nuked by any one or many nations.

Israel is engaged in its own fatal dead end course, to think it can afford to alienate everyone because they have the better military, while not having enough people to administer the territory they have.

 

[seemingly random]

Originally posted by: counterstrikedude

Originally posted by: seemingly random

Originally posted by: counterstrikedude

Originally posted by: seemingly random

Originally posted by: counterstrikedude

Originally posted by: Throckmorton
I have yet to see an explanation of why Israel would attack Iran

uhhh...Iran's pursuit of nuclear weapons?

Or is that too simple and you need some b.s sprinkled on top?

Are they? How do you know?

uhhh cause they said so?

unless of course you buy the peaceful purposes mantra....

Iran said they are pursuing nuclear weapons?

.....

no, they pursuing to become a nuclear-capable country - whether that entails weapons or not remains to be seen, but their refusal to cooperate and threats to annihilate a neighboring country should sound alarms for logical thinkers.

Why should they submit to inspection by the u.s.?
Why shouldn't they submit to inspection by the u.s.?
Do they have missile launch capability to send a nuclear warhead somewhere?
How/why do you know the answers to any of these questions?

 

[JS80]

Originally posted by: seemingly random

Originally posted by: counterstrikedude

Originally posted by: seemingly random

Originally posted by: counterstrikedude

Originally posted by: seemingly random

Originally posted by: counterstrikedude

Originally posted by: Throckmorton
I have yet to see an explanation of why Israel would attack Iran

uhhh...Iran's pursuit of nuclear weapons?

Or is that too simple and you need some b.s sprinkled on top?

Are they? How do you know?

uhhh cause they said so?

unless of course you buy the peaceful purposes mantra....

Iran said they are pursuing nuclear weapons?

.....

no, they pursuing to become a nuclear-capable country - whether that entails weapons or not remains to be seen, but their refusal to cooperate and threats to annihilate a neighboring country should sound alarms for logical thinkers.

Why should they submit to inspection by the u.s.?
Why shouldn't they submit to inspection by the u.s.?
Do they have missile launch capability to send a nuclear warhead somewhere?
How/why do you know the answers to any of these questions?

Why should Israel bend over and take it up the ass while Iran threatens to wipe Israel off the map while having a nuclear program?

 

[counterstrikedude]

Originally posted by: JS80

Originally posted by: seemingly random

Originally posted by: counterstrikedude

Originally posted by: seemingly random

Originally posted by: counterstrikedude

Originally posted by: seemingly random

Originally posted by: counterstrikedude

Originally posted by: Throckmorton
I have yet to see an explanation of why Israel would attack Iran

uhhh...Iran's pursuit of nuclear weapons?

Or is that too simple and you need some b.s sprinkled on top?

Are they? How do you know?

uhhh cause they said so?

unless of course you buy the peaceful purposes mantra....

Iran said they are pursuing nuclear weapons?

.....

no, they pursuing to become a nuclear-capable country - whether that entails weapons or not remains to be seen, but their refusal to cooperate and threats to annihilate a neighboring country should sound alarms for logical thinkers.

Why should they submit to inspection by the u.s.?
Why shouldn't they submit to inspection by the u.s.?
Do they have missile launch capability to send a nuclear warhead somewhere?
How/why do you know the answers to any of these questions?

Why should Israel bend over and take it up the ass while Iran threatens to wipe Israel off the map while having a nuclear program?

exactly.

 

[StageLeft]

Originally posted by: Lemon law
Its really a question of using Israeli nukes or not, without using nukes, Israel is too small, too far away, and too vulnerable
to do any real damage to Iran that has buried its nuclear facilities deep. And any such strike will stoke universal Arab anger while igniting fatal proxy wars that will bury Israel in violence.

Of course if Israel uses nukes without a damn good reason, its the end of the State of Israel as it will instantly become a pariah nation, stripped of all legitimacy, and damn lucky if it escapes being nuked by any one or many nations.

Israel is engaged in its own fatal dead end course, to think it can afford to alienate everyone because they have the better military, while not having enough people to administer the territory they have.

WINNER.

My only uncertainty in your post is whether they really need nukes to substantially reverse Iran's progress. Perhaps they do not, but I don't see a terribly bright future for Israel.

 

[seemingly random]

Originally posted by: JS80

Originally posted by: seemingly random

Originally posted by: counterstrikedude

Originally posted by: seemingly random

Originally posted by: counterstrikedude

Originally posted by: seemingly random

Originally posted by: counterstrikedude

Originally posted by: Throckmorton
I have yet to see an explanation of why Israel would attack Iran

uhhh...Iran's pursuit of nuclear weapons?

Or is that too simple and you need some b.s sprinkled on top?

Are they? How do you know?

uhhh cause they said so?

unless of course you buy the peaceful purposes mantra....

Iran said they are pursuing nuclear weapons?

.....

no, they pursuing to become a nuclear-capable country - whether that entails weapons or not remains to be seen, but their refusal to cooperate and threats to annihilate a neighboring country should sound alarms for logical thinkers.

Why should they submit to inspection by the u.s.?
Why shouldn't they submit to inspection by the u.s.?
Do they have missile launch capability to send a nuclear warhead somewhere?
How/why do you know the answers to any of these questions?

Why should Israel bend over and take it up the ass while Iran threatens to wipe Israel off the map while having a nuclear program?

What nuclear program?
How do you know this?

 

[seemingly random]

Originally posted by: counterstrikedude
...
exactly.

Dittohead?

 

[counterstrikedude]

Originally posted by: Skoorb

Originally posted by: Lemon law
Its really a question of using Israeli nukes or not, without using nukes, Israel is too small, too far away, and too vulnerable
to do any real damage to Iran that has buried its nuclear facilities deep. And any such strike will stoke universal Arab anger while igniting fatal proxy wars that will bury Israel in violence.

Of course if Israel uses nukes without a damn good reason, its the end of the State of Israel as it will instantly become a pariah nation, stripped of all legitimacy, and damn lucky if it escapes being nuked by any one or many nations.

Israel is engaged in its own fatal dead end course, to think it can afford to alienate everyone because they have the better military, while not having enough people to administer the territory they have.

WINNER.

My only uncertainty in your post is whether they really need nukes to substantially reverse Iran's progress. Perhaps they do not, but I don't see a terribly bright future for Israel.

I see a very bright future for Israel. They've always prevailed, and I'm willing to bet they'll continue to prevail. Israel beat the combined forces of Egypt, Syria, Iraq, and Jordon - I'm sure they'll have no problem kicking Iran's ass.

 

[StageLeft]

Originally posted by: counterstrikedude

Originally posted by: Skoorb

Originally posted by: Lemon law
Its really a question of using Israeli nukes or not, without using nukes, Israel is too small, too far away, and too vulnerable
to do any real damage to Iran that has buried its nuclear facilities deep. And any such strike will stoke universal Arab anger while igniting fatal proxy wars that will bury Israel in violence.

Of course if Israel uses nukes without a damn good reason, its the end of the State of Israel as it will instantly become a pariah nation, stripped of all legitimacy, and damn lucky if it escapes being nuked by any one or many nations.

Israel is engaged in its own fatal dead end course, to think it can afford to alienate everyone because they have the better military, while not having enough people to administer the territory they have.

WINNER.

My only uncertainty in your post is whether they really need nukes to substantially reverse Iran's progress. Perhaps they do not, but I don't see a terribly bright future for Israel.

I see a very bright future for Israel. They've always prevailed, and I'm willing to bet they'll continue to prevail. Israel beat the combined forces of Egypt, Syria, Iraq, and Jordon - I'm sure they'll have no problem kicking Iran's ass.

They have always prevailed if you go back 60 years to their recent iteration. Before that, not so much.

 

[counterstrikedude]

Originally posted by: Skoorb

Originally posted by: counterstrikedude

Originally posted by: Skoorb

Originally posted by: Lemon law
Its really a question of using Israeli nukes or not, without using nukes, Israel is too small, too far away, and too vulnerable
to do any real damage to Iran that has buried its nuclear facilities deep. And any such strike will stoke universal Arab anger while igniting fatal proxy wars that will bury Israel in violence.

Of course if Israel uses nukes without a damn good reason, its the end of the State of Israel as it will instantly become a pariah nation, stripped of all legitimacy, and damn lucky if it escapes being nuked by any one or many nations.

Israel is engaged in its own fatal dead end course, to think it can afford to alienate everyone because they have the better military, while not having enough people to administer the territory they have.

WINNER.

My only uncertainty in your post is whether they really need nukes to substantially reverse Iran's progress. Perhaps they do not, but I don't see a terribly bright future for Israel.

I see a very bright future for Israel. They've always prevailed, and I'm willing to bet they'll continue to prevail. Israel beat the combined forces of Egypt, Syria, Iraq, and Jordon - I'm sure they'll have no problem kicking Iran's ass.

They have always prevailed if you go back 60 years to their recent iteration. Before that, not so much.

the Jewish people have always prevailed. They survived for thousands of years without a country...when's the last time you saw a Roman? Or a Babylonian?


If you truly think Iran is going to end Israel, then you clearly need to check your head.

 

[Lemon law]

Not sure who came up with the delusion of "the Jewish people have always prevailed. They survived for thousands of years without a country...when's the last time you saw a Roman? Or a Babylonian?"

Not sure what the Population of Italy is, but most are simply an mixture of Roman ancestry, ditto with with Babylonians who make up most of the 25 million Iraqis. Just saw a science article that the supposedly extinct Phonetician gene pool is now embedded in one of seven people in the entire Mediterranean region. Get a clue, there is no gene for barbarity, rationality, or Judaism.

But Israel as a Jewish State cannot possibly morally justify its existence if it chooses to do it an the expense of suppressing other minorities. Its simply the politics of pigs and has nothing to do with any religion.
Sadly, too many in the State of Israel have set up a dead end self fulling prophesy, and it simply continues to build for 60 years running. And will never end if the people on all sides are unwilling to reject stupidity
and to lose an us or them mentality.

 

[seemingly random]

Originally posted by: Lemon law
Not sure who came up with the delusion of "the Jewish people have always prevailed. They survived for thousands of years without a country...when's the last time you saw a Roman? Or a Babylonian?"

Not sure what the Population of Italy is, but most are simply an mixture of Roman ancestry, ditto with with Babylonians who make up most of the 25 million Iraqis. Just saw a science article that the supposedly extinct Phonetician gene pool is now embedded in one of seven people in the entire Mediterranean region. Get a clue, there is no gene for barbarity, rationality, or Judaism.

But Israel as a Jewish State cannot possibly morally justify its existence if it chooses to do it an the expense of suppressing other minorities. Its simply the politics of pigs and has nothing to do with any religion.
Sadly, too many in the State of Israel have set up a dead end self fulling prophesy, and it simply continues to build for 60 years running. And will never end if the people on all sides are unwilling to reject stupidity
and to lose an us or them mentality.

Why is israel often referred to as a state instead of a country?

 

[Jhhnn]

Attacking the Iranians can't possibly occur w/o American complicity. we control the airspace all the way from the turkish/georgian border to the cape of Oman.

There's no rational cause for it, either. Iran is a large country with a population of ~70M, much of which is beyond the range of Israeli strikes, anyway. And then there's the problem of all the countries between Israel and Iran to contend with... compounded by the fact that any strike would only have a temporary effect... The Iranians would kick out the inspectors, build new facilities deeper and further away from Israel, develop weapons for sure... Not to mention vastly increased support for palestinians, hezbollah, and syria... maybe even a Shia uprising in Iraq.

It's a fools' move, but then, the Israeli rightwing is even more desperate than their American counterparts...

 

[morkinva]

Obama's new chief of staff, israeli rahm emanuel. God help us all.