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Would my university know if I put a router in my room

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Originally posted by: scorpmatt
the extra bandwidth pulling from your single port might be noticed, smart thing, dont do it.

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If both machines are both using the internet at the same time, there will be twice as much activity on your port than normal (sorry, bandwidth was the wrong word)
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a single port is limited to the bandwidth allocated to it.

if he has a 10mbit port, it's likely that one computer could use up to the entire 10mbit pipe (but not more, since it's bandwidth-restricted). two computers would just have to split that connection.

most universities have speed caps in place for those who may abuse such rules like downloading and uploading excessively. however, i don't think this is the OP's case.

At my school you can have as many as you want, you just have to register them. (This includes consoles). My roommate has 7 computers.
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that's so much overhead for a university computing department. sounds like they aren't on DHCP yet. what are they waiting for? 😕

necine: resnet is the name of a lot of university networking departments. 😛 there's even a resnet conference that is held yearly at participating universities. i attended a columbia university one held a few years ago: http://www.resnetsymposium.org/ 🙂

resnet = residential networking (networking in dorms)

Doug: a simple hub won't cause problems with creating a rogue DHCP server. a router may. if it's "technically" against the rules, as you say, your university really needs to catch up with modern technology. i'm sure people on campus have multiple computers (linux and windows boxes, anyone?) and i'm sure they accommodate it.

 
This question comes up alot in the networking forums.
You should probably ask with your university's computing services or IT dept, they usually can make exemptions as needed.

As to the person that mentioned having a wireless setup and the university not caring, thats really not true with some schools. I personally know in my school the computing guys would walk down residence halls with a PDA trying to find unauthorized wireless setups.

And YES it is possible for them to detect your router. Just by looking at the TTL value on the packets
 
I work at a college, we say that its not allowed but as long as you set it up right it doent matter. The problem is when some sets it up backward so there router is pushing There own IPs out on our network. As long as you set it up right no one will care.
 
I :heart: my university's "Resnet," and contrary to what it would seem, even though they allow - even encourage (well, they have an official HOWTO on setting up a router) - routers, for the half a year that I've been here, the network has been working just excellently. 🙂
 
Originally posted by: CorporateRecreation
Originally posted by: CitizenDoug
Originally posted by: CorporateRecreation
Clone your MAC address to the router.
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Could you elaborate? The guy down at the "ResNet" office was getting all excited about my MAC address the other day when my internet stopped working.

I kept telling him, no, it's a PC, not a MAC! Lol.
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lol...

a MAC address is a hardware code burned into the firmware of your NIC. It is a hex number unique to your card, unique so routing can actually work. I'm not going to explain the process of routing to you but I've give you enough info... the code can be entered into your router so as far as your resnet is concerned, the packets are hitting that MAC address (your nic, so it thinks) yet your router handles all internal network routing on the inside without their knowledge.

To be honest it's not even neccesary but if you're super paranoid it might be a good option.

IM me if you want more in depth, this is my quick 101 😉
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switching. routers work at level 3.
 
I had a router running. I had bought both sides of the room. Router running on one port. I did man-in-themiddle attack to sniff. I got aim sniff and aimsniffed the whole building for a few days. Thing is, all traffic in the whole building was going through my comp, so it bottlenecked pretty bad. They just shut my port off and i used the other one 🙂
 
Originally posted by: Shawn
Originally posted by: CorporateRecreation
Clone your MAC address to the router.
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FTW
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He's right... If you clone the MAC address of your Ethernet card to your router, they have no good way of telling that you've installed one. Even this is a bit paranoid, though, as most ResNet admins that I've met are far too lazy to keep everyone's initial MAC address on file. As long as you set it up right and don't crash the network, you'll be fine.
 
Originally posted by: CitizenDoug
I imagine a lot of schools use the name "ResNet" for their on campus internet.
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Yep. ResNet is just short for "Residential Networking." It's pretty common. So common in fact, that there is actually an http://www.resnetsymposium.org/ dedicated to campus networks, and it is the ResNet Symposium.

Doh...I guess Tami already covered that 🙂
 
JUst use a hub. I dont see why that would be a problem.

Hell, back in my school, we had the old school style network jacks, the same size as a phone cable on one end. We just plugged in a standard phone line splitter, and that worked fine.
 
Stop it with the hub or switch recommendations. If his local network only allows a single connection, he needs NAT routing. Using a hub or switch, he will lease two IPs, which won't work in his situation. Yes, it may work fine and dandy for your situation, but not for the OP.
 
My roomates and I (6 of us in total) set up our own local network and used one of our university assigned IP addresses through the router. After one of our IP's got banned for whatever reason (portscanning, mass downloading, etc.) we would simply put in another one of our IP's. I think we ended up going through 4 IP's in the year.
 
Originally posted by: scorpmatt
the extra bandwidth pulling from your single port might be noticed, smart thing, dont do it.
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Dude it's a network port, not a power outlet. What makes you think more computers mean more bandwidth? 😕
 
Originally posted by: eelw
Stop it with the hub or switch recommendations. If his local network only allows a single connection, he needs NAT routing. Using a hub or switch, he will lease two IPs, which won't work in his situation. Yes, it may work fine and dandy for your situation, but not for the OP.
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I think those peopel are trying to get him banz0red from the network.
 
yes, they can know. would they care? probably not.. so long as you secure your access point if it's wireless.. and don't be an idiot and plug the lan port into the wall and act as a dhcp server for you local building
 
Originally posted by: kami333
The point is though depending on the school they can have some pretty strict policies including limiting it to 1MAC registeration per person. Then a switch wouldn't work, would it?
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He's already using two seperate computers with two seperate mac address, his question was in regard to having to switch the cable at the wall plate being a pain. Being that there is no bloody issue with the MAC address and he uses the computers at seperate times (not simeltaneous per his post) there is no bloody reason that a switch/hub (if he's only using one computer at a time there are no collosions so the hub is just as good as the switch) isn't the best option.
 
Originally posted by: MournSanity
UC Santa Barbara's residence hall internet is also called ResNet. Interesting.
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its not interesting you stupid asshole, every school is named that! god this forum is getting dumber everyday
 
Originally posted by: Ameesh
Originally posted by: MournSanity
UC Santa Barbara's residence hall internet is also called ResNet. Interesting.
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its not interesting you stupid asshole, every school is named that! god this forum is getting dumber everyday
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Oy!
 
I asked this exact same question in Networking awhile back. I wanted a router mainly to sync folders between my laptop and desktop, file sharing is the best way to do it. The reason I didn't want a hub or a switch is because I'd have many shared folders on my desktop/laptop and thus wanted the protection of a router. I bought one, hooked it up, and cloned the MAC of my desktop. It's nice.
 
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