Would Apple be a better leader?

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Zebo

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Originally posted by: Kipper
Originally posted by: Zebo
Apple would be far far worse... Little Stevie is a control freak and a meglamanic... So much so he nearly ruined the company twice, is responsible for it's low market cap today when they could have totally dominated, and bankrupted NeXT.

He's nearly "ruined the company twice" yet he's brought it back from millions in the red to producing record profits.

Apple historically has had some of the best product in Silicon Valley with the worst management. Previous CEOs were mostly inept and didn't really have any idea of how to market the product from a technical or aesthetic standpoint. Jobs comes along and things change. BIGTIME.

As CEO of Pixar as well he seems to be sending that studio on a fast clip for growth. I'm not really seeing a track record of failure here.


Who hired those "previous CEO's", moron named Little Stevie that's who, who owned all that stock. That stock he got by hanging on the coat tails of smart guys like Woz and other talented engineers and businessmen.. who he beraded, aleinated, made apple what it is today a little niched hardware maker mainly making money off ipods vs. what it could have been. Either a Microsoft or a Dell at two different points in it's career..
 

Zebo

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Originally posted by: Pepsei
Originally posted by: Zebo
Apple would be far far worse... Little Stevie is a control freak and a meglamanic... So much so he nearly ruined the company twice, is responsible for it's low market cap today when they could have totally dominated, and bankrupted NeXT.


good point about NeXT, i almost forgot about that.

remember they were competing with IBM, Atari, Commodore, TI back then in the pc market? I wonder what would've happen if they allowed massive clones like IBM did.

If Little Stevie has'nt banned all the books like he's tried to do Read about his ruiness influence here.

 

SagaLore

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Originally posted by: Zebo
Apple would be far far worse... Little Stevie is a control freak and a meglamanic... So much so he nearly ruined the company twice, is responsible for it's low market cap today when they could have totally dominated, and bankrupted NeXT.

Apple's financials are by far better than Microsoft.
 

DaveSimmons

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As a developer, I'd be annoyed -- trying to cram the wacky language Objective-C down our throats when 99.9% of commercial application development is done in C/C++ and there are terabytes of existing C/C++ libraries to use.

NeXT was a failure, but since he controls the cult, Jobs can get his employees to drink the kool-aid and tell him it's a wonderful idea to keep using its nonstard programming language and odd UI framework as the OS X core development technology.

Luckily companies like Adobe and Microsoft made Apple also offer "carbon" which supports C/C++, so it's possible to do mac development without kool-aid.