Worthless LGA775 CPUs: Trash, recycle, donate, or list for free on Craigslist?

[positivedoppler]

Give em away to people who need them.

 

[superstition]

They aren't worthless. I set up someone I know with my old lapped E2140 Hackintosh system that's undervolted. He wanted a system with stuff like Audacity and Band in a Box. Music apps generally don't need much CPU power. It works just fine.

 

[Raduque]

Actually, I might make a few more keychains. My current keychain is a NVidia 7800GT die.

 

[poofyhairguy]

Actually, I might make a few more keychains. My current keychain is a NVidia 7800GT die.

Like some sort of PS3 scalp?

 

[Raduque]

Like some sort of PS3 scalp?

Heh, no, it was a genuine 7800 GS (whoops, it was an AGP card) card that died when a cheap PSU died and killed a motherboard. I used a heat gun to separate the die package from the board and cleaned up the solder balls on the bottom, the drilled a hole through a corner of the package.

 

[hhhd1]

I bought a few LGA775 processors last year to upgrade few old desktops,
now i see it was a total waste of money.

 

[waltchan]

now i see it was a total waste of money.

Price depreciated again harshly, that's why. CPU depreciation is the #1 enemy in lowering computer's value, and I've said this many times now. However, I know some people here disagree with me and everything is based on price/performance (not really).

2013 wasn't a buy, 2016 is now a buy. Same thing as for Sandy Bridge, 2016 is NOT a buy yet (don't fall into Celeron G460's $25 used price scam, a Phenom II X2 560 AM3 unlocked at 3.9GHz for $25 beats it easily). Intel's higher-pricing at start come with steeper depreciation penalty costs than AMD in the long-run (LGA775 < AM2), and Celeron G460 is an excellent example why it doesn't worth $25 at all, or even $20 and $15. I appraise G460's value at $5 today based on its benchmark score and age, but it doesn't exist yet.

Back in March 2013, I paid $45 for a used Core 2 Duo E8400. I remember E8600 was listed at $100 shipped, and Q9650 at $250. By winter 2013, E8400's price drop down to $25. Depreciation was running incredibly fast like a blink of eye. Sellers stomped in and beat your lowest price by one penny in the next minute. Buyers don't always paid for their item they won due to cheaper price they found in the next hour, so sellers were forced to relist the item only to lose 20% than the original listing. Intel's higher prices with steeper depreciation ratio taught people to never buy Intel again.

I was forced to unplug a PC while it's on, and parted out a E8600 device immediately only to sell the CPU itself for just $55 (lost $50 in value 6 months later), while I had to go out and buy a new PC on the same day (cheaper with a new PC than waiting for E8600 to lose another $50). It currently has no CPU right now, and I'm waiting for E8600's price to bottom out at $5, after which I can now recover my old 2013 files. I also didn't have time to sell the last remaining E8400 system, and now it depreciated down to $6 today. D:

Since 2013, I'm extremely frightful with CPU depreciation now, and I do get some nightmares in my sleep. I now feel better (and recover briefly) with a A4-3300 FM1 (new) for just $8.55. I know VirtualLarry tells me to go with Celeron G1820 for $39, but I don't want to gamble the risk allowing it to depreciate down to $5 a few years later in unforeseen circumstances (while not likely, and I know it won't touch $5, my big LGA775 depreciation nightmare story continues to live on fresh today.)

 

[SPBHM]

They aren't worthless. I set up someone I know with my old lapped E2140 Hackintosh system that's undervolted. He wanted a system with stuff like Audacity and Band in a Box. Music apps generally don't need much CPU power. It works just fine.

I think they are because of how cheap stuff that is way better and compatible with the same MBs is...

 

[Raduque]

For the OP, send one to waltchan so he can recover his files!

 

[ehume]

. . . I recently refurbished an E5200 rig, and installed Win10, and then proceeded to install a 120GB (refurb) SSD into it, and ... it's pretty speedy. Surprised me, for 2007-era technology. I guess I've gotten accustomed to these Atom CPUs.)

Your experience doesn't surprise me. Wife uses a 2008 technology Dell. Swapped out the 500GB spinning disk for a 500GB SSD and Win7-64 for an OS. Runs well for her uses. And this beats buying and selling CPU's. The SSD upgrade improvement surpassed improvement for most CPU's. We have used the box continuously since 2008. And Win 10 should not only improve the old box but will kick replacing dual core boxes down the road. Who knows when those old boxen will need to go?

That said, what to do with old single core CPU's and obsolete dual cores? What charities take them? Computers are cheap enough in the US that most people who want them have them. Is it worth shipping old boxes to the 3d World? And is there a charity that does this?

 

[Raduque]

Honestly, I would just sell them to a recycler/reclaimer. You'll get pennies on the dollar, but they will recover the precious metals and recycle the rest.

 

[VirtualLarry]

That said, what to do with old single core CPU's and obsolete dual cores? What charities take them? Computers are cheap enough in the US that most people who want them have them. Is it worth shipping old boxes to the 3d World? And is there a charity that does this?

Hmm, good question. I know of one program that places PCs with people that need them. I sometimes donate some of my older / less-useful PCs to them. I'm thinking of donating the E5200 with Win10 and SSD. Yeah, I could maybe sell it, but everything is five years old (except for the SSD and SATA6G controller card, but the SSD was a refurb), and I wouldn't feel comfortable risking my reputation on reselling used stuff that old.

 

[maddogmcgee]

Price depreciated again harshly, that's why. CPU depreciation is the #1 enemy in lowering computer's value, and I've said this many times now. However, I know some people here disagree with me and everything is based on price/performance (not really).

2013 wasn't a buy, 2016 is now a buy. Same thing as for Sandy Bridge, 2016 is NOT a buy yet (don't fall into Celeron G460's $25 used price scam, a Phenom II X2 560 AM3 unlocked at 3.9GHz for $25 beats it easily). Intel's higher-pricing at start come with steeper depreciation penalty costs than AMD in the long-run (LGA775 < AM2), and Celeron G460 is an excellent example why it doesn't worth $25 at all, or even $20 and $15. I appraise G460's value at $5 today based on its benchmark score and age, but it doesn't exist yet.

Back in March 2013, I paid $45 for a used Core 2 Duo E8400. I remember E8600 was listed at $100 shipped, and Q9650 at $250. By winter 2013, E8400's price drop down to $25. Depreciation was running incredibly fast like a blink of eye. Sellers stomped in and beat your lowest price by one penny in the next minute. Buyers don't always paid for their item they won due to cheaper price they found in the next hour, so sellers were forced to relist the item only to lose 20% than the original listing. Intel's higher prices with steeper depreciation ratio taught people to never buy Intel again.

I was forced to unplug a PC while it's on, and parted out a E8600 device immediately only to sell the CPU itself for just $55 (lost $50 in value 6 months later), while I had to go out and buy a new PC on the same day (cheaper with a new PC than waiting for E8600 to lose another $50). It currently has no CPU right now, and I'm waiting for E8600's price to bottom out at $5, after which I can now recover my old 2013 files. I also didn't have time to sell the last remaining E8400 system, and now it depreciated down to $6 today. D:

Since 2013, I'm extremely frightful with CPU depreciation now, and I do get some nightmares in my sleep. I now feel better (and recover briefly) with a A4-3300 FM1 (new) for just $8.55. I know VirtualLarry tells me to go with Celeron G1820 for $39, but I don't want to gamble the risk allowing it to depreciate down to $5 a few years later in unforeseen circumstances (while not likely, and I know it won't touch $5, my big LGA775 depreciation nightmare story continues to live on fresh today.)

Why buy individual parts? You can get ex-business sandy era desktops/laptops with SSD and free upgrade to windows 10 for very little money. I just bought a laptop for 180 AUD, so maybe 110 US, and for word/internet I don't notice the difference between it and my gaming PC
.

 

[VirtualLarry]

waltchan, your situation doesn't make much sense. The only way that you yourself should be worried about CPU depreciation, is if YOU are the one holding onto the CPU while it depreciates. Unless you are building all of these uber-low-end used rigs for yourself, then I don't quite understand the problem.

Sure, if they depreciate between the time that you purchase them, and the time that you manage to sell the rig, if you have a really savvy buyer, they may research the parts cost on ebay, and only want to pay the total parts cost.

But most people aren't like that, so unless you build systems, and only sell them 3-5 years later, then I just don't see the issue.

(Yes, I built some systems a few years back, Athlon II X4 rigs, and I still have one of them left, I gave it to a friend, after updating it with a GT740, 8GB of DDR2 (two slots), and Windows 10. It's probably still saleable, if I really tried.)

 

[waltchan]

I just bought a laptop for 180 AUD, so maybe 110 US, and for word/internet I don't notice the difference between it and my gaming PC.

Laptops are excluded in depreciation. There's no depreciation for me as I buy a new 15.6" notebook Celeron big-cores each year. Just received my new Lenovo 3215U 1.7GHz Broadwell yesterday. Only desktops I'm talking about.

 

[escrow4]

Price depreciated again harshly, that's why. CPU depreciation is the #1 enemy in lowering computer's value, and I've said this many times now. However, I know some people here disagree with me and everything is based on price/performance (not really).

2013 wasn't a buy, 2016 is now a buy. Same thing as for Sandy Bridge, 2016 is NOT a buy yet (don't fall into Celeron G460's $25 used price scam, a Phenom II X2 560 AM3 unlocked at 3.9GHz for $25 beats it easily). Intel's higher-pricing at start come with steeper depreciation penalty costs than AMD in the long-run (LGA775 < AM2), and Celeron G460 is an excellent example why it doesn't worth $25 at all, or even $20 and $15. I appraise G460's value at $5 today based on its benchmark score and age, but it doesn't exist yet.

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Nobody here is concerned with CPU depreciation at all or reselling in future. Even I don't get your fascination with it. I buy cheapo CPUs as they are all I need for most tasks. I don't obsess over whether a $50 celeron is worth it over a $25 AM3 CPU from 8yrs ago. Or whether that $50 celeron will drop to $5 in a decade. Users buy what they need not on some random compulsion although it seems like there are exceptions.

Right now a typical user will buy a cheap celeron or pentium for a basic box, they won't scour Ebay to find a 2008 era CPU for $7.25 and then post about saving stacks. And as an aside, this is why I don't recommend Pentiums:

http://benchmarks-tests.com/reviews/processors/intel_celeron_g1820/conclusion.php

Even I wouldn't upgrade a Core 2 in 2016, low end Skylakes murder them. Add H110 or H170 and you are set.

 

[PingSpike]

Speaking of laptops and depreciation if you want to see CPU prices that tank rapidly and extremely take a look at mobile CPUs. People might update an old desktop system with an obsolete chip but that market doesn't exist in mobile. Its a shame because i5s can be had for quite cheap...but you have the same problem as everyone else, what am I going to do with this thing?

 

[Vdubchaos]

You guys keep laughing, my 2 LGA775s are still doing great job. 2 more in my family as well.

For general Internet surfing and even office they are great CPUs.

 

[hhhd1]

Speaking of laptops and depreciation if you want to see CPU prices that tank rapidly and extremely take a look at mobile CPUs. People might update an old desktop system with an obsolete chip but that market doesn't exist in mobile. Its a shame because i5s can be had for quite cheap...but you have the same problem as everyone else, what am I going to do with this thing?

laptops i5 are dual core, just i3, except that it have turbo boost.

laptop i7 quadcore are priced a bit high.

plus, market segmentation of motherboards, (this is true for ivybright/hasweel):
* celeron/pentium motherboard can't be upgraded to i3 or above.
* most i3/i5 cant be upgraded to quadcore becuase of fan limitation.
* sandy. cant be upgraded to ivy., because bios.

 

[moonbogg]

Aren't the LGA775 chips about equal to modern AMD chips? Just sell them to people looking for low performance, low cost stuff. You can sell those.

 

[Raduque]

laptops i5 are dual core, just i3, except that it have turbo boost.

laptop i7 quadcore are priced a bit high.

plus, market segmentation of motherboards, (this is true for ivybright/hasweel):
* celeron/pentium motherboard can't be upgraded to i3 or above.
* most i3/i5 cant be upgraded to quadcore becuase of fan limitation.
* sandy. cant be upgraded to ivy., because bios.

For the second point, buy a new fan, they're cheap. $30-50. Third point, can't most SB boards support Ivy if you update the BIOS? My old Intel board can run both on the latest BIOS.

 

[NTMBK]

For the second point, buy a new fan, they're cheap. $30-50. Third point, can't most SB boards support Ivy if you update the BIOS? My old Intel board can run both on the latest BIOS.

Good luck getting a fan that will fit your laptop, or a BIOS update for your laptop motherboard.

 

[PingSpike]

laptops i5 are dual core, just i3, except that it have turbo boost.

laptop i7 quadcore are priced a bit high.

plus, market segmentation of motherboards, (this is true for ivybright/hasweel):
* celeron/pentium motherboard can't be upgraded to i3 or above.
* most i3/i5 cant be upgraded to quadcore becuase of fan limitation.
* sandy. cant be upgraded to ivy., because bios.

Does Intel's marketing depravity ever end?

 

[Raduque]

Good luck getting a fan that will fit your laptop, or a BIOS update for your laptop motherboard.

Wasn't commenting on the laptop stuff - more the generalities of the bulleted list at the bottom of his post.

 

[waltchan]

You guys keep laughing, my 2 LGA775s are still doing great job. 2 more in my family as well.

For general Internet surfing and even office they are great CPUs.

It depends whether or not your LGA775 motherboard has AHCI, UEFI, and at least SATA II feature as an option in BIOS. These were big optional features and most people don't get them. None of the Dell boards I have has UEFI, and AHCI option adds $30 extra from G41 chipset. I like LGA1155 a little better, despite the higher prices, due to standard AHCI, UEFI, and SATA II.