worth upgrade from p4 2.6c to e6600?

Dutchmaster420

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i mosly use my pc for newsgroup dling and dvd burning...basically just internet and multimedia purposes

my setup right now is a 2.6c, 2x 512mb ram, 200gb hd pata,

would it be worth it to upgrade to e6600 and 2x 1gb ram, raptor...

would it be a very noticable increase?



 

crydee

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raptor would be useless, 2 gigs of ram would be noticable, burning time might decrease with a e6600 by a significant amount, multimedia playback wouldn't be effected

for the amount of $ you'd have to throw down for a new mobo, ram, proc and maybe new psu/case it wouldn't be worth it all if you don't play games or do some serious computing
 

DaveSimmons

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DVD re-encoding would be faster, burning would not be. Newsgroups would be the same speed.

Sounds like a waste of money.
 

firewolfsm

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If you feel it being slow in everyday tasks and you think you need the upgrade then go ahead. I doubt you need the 6600 though. This AMD X2 3600/Biostar Mobo combo is only $170. All you need to buy is ram and a cheap graphics card (the 7300GT is only $40). It's much cheaper than the Intel upgrade.

Also, it's the new 65nm revision, so it should run very cool.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103036
 

Ruptga

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Originally posted by: firewolfsm
If you feel it being slow in everyday tasks and you think you need the upgrade then go ahead. I doubt you need the 6600 though. This AMD X2 3600/Biostar Mobo combo is only $170. All you need to buy is ram and a cheap graphics card (the 7300GT is only $40). It's much cheaper than the Intel upgrade.

Also, it's the new 65nm revision, so it should run very cool.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103036

About the computing power, yes, but about 65nm, no. AT reviewed their first batch of 65nms and the performance is lowered, but it didn't OC any better, don't remember about temps though, you can look it up yourself. Anyway, the L2 latency is higher than 90nm chips, probably because they're restructuring things to get ready for quadcore where they'll also have an L3 cache. So if media stuff is L2 intensive, a 65nm chips might not work as well, but if it's an HTPC, the lower temps might just be worth it.

Edit: I have a T2300, and apparantly each core is comparable to a 2.8c P4, though media stuff can often take advantage of dualcore, so it's not entirely comparable to your computer. Anyway, while I'd like a T7500 or something, that's just not going to happen, and this thing does pretty well for me, and probably will for another three years. My guess is your computer still has a good bit of life in it.

But if you are getting tired of the machine, a better use of your money would probably be finding a dirt cheap PD 805 or 920 in FS/FT or maybe down at a Fry's or something like it, then OC the thing at least 400Mhz. For media, the dualcore does make a decent difference, but it's not worth the price of a C2D+mobo+ram. Then again, depending on what bundles you can find, a K8 could fairly easily be more cost effective.
 

Dutchmaster420

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also i found a good price for a p4 socket 478 3.4 extreme edition

would this be worth it or is a regular 3.4c fine?
 

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Just my opinion for your consideration or lack thereof.

If you really need a faster processor then get the E6600. It blows the 2.6 and 3.4 out of the water.

I recently upgraded from a P4 3.06 to a overclocked E6400. I do quite a bit of video editing and encoding so I needed the cpu power. For what I'm doing my new processor is generally 4-6 times faster than my old P4. Plus all computer functions from opening programs multitasking is significantly faster.

If you're just surfing the net, burning discs, and watching movies then don't upgrade.

If you do need a faster system then I personally wouldn't waste money on an incremental upgrade. I'd make a leap to C2D.
 

Dutchmaster420

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if i upgraded could i keep my old case with 350watt psu or would i need to upgrade(im not going to be oc'ing) well maybe a little
 

Dutchmaster420

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alright this is what my build looks like

e6600
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16819115003

crucial ballistix 2x1gb pc6400
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16820146565

gigabyte GA-965P-S3
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16813128017

Antec LifeStyle SONATA II with 450watt PSU
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16811129155

Sapphire Radeon X1600XT
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16814102060


should i get a raptor and then a 2-300gb sata or what? any advice on that

also all these parts go together right....any suggestions, im trying to stay right around 1000$

should i just buy the 6400 and then overclock, but then wouldnt i have to buy more fans, aftermarket heatsink and so on so wouldnt the price even out?
 

Zebo

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im trying to stay right around 1000$
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Then go to zipzoomfly.com Newegg is kinda pricey.

Personally I think you're wasting your money anyplace you go for the tasks you do. But maybe not.. if you're asking you must feel a need for speed.
 

f4phantom2500

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Originally posted by: Dutchmaster420
should i just buy the 6400 and then overclock, but then wouldnt i have to buy more fans, aftermarket heatsink and so on so wouldnt the price even out?

not necessarily, those chips run pretty cool so you wouldn't need a very high amount of airflow to keep up, and unless you overclock it TO THE MAAAAAX the stock heatsink will do the job. idk how noticeable the extra cache would be for what you want to do, more than gaming i bet but idk exactly, but the clock speed difference wouldn't make a big difference...and yeah you could overclock that chip to compensate without having to much excess heat. you'd have to buy a LOT of fans for the price to even out between an e6400 and e6600...besides upgrading from a 2.6c p4 an e6400 would be godly at stock speed...you could get a raptor if you want but i think you'll be more limited by the encoding and such would be limited more by the actual encoding process, and the burning time would be limited by the burner. have you considered overclocking your 2.6c? if it performs anything like the 2.4c's did, which it should, you could probably get it to the mid 3-ghz range. if you want more performance i'd try that first and go from there...however since your budget is so high i expect you're less concerned with saving money and more concerned with having a new computer. if it were me, i'd overclock the 2.6c, see how that pans out, if not upgrade to a cheap am2 or 775 setup.
 

Dutchmaster420

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the 2.6c is not a good overclocker trust me..i bought an sp94 heatsink for it, fans everywhere

could hardly get it at 2.8-2.9 stable with my p4p-800 mb

i think im just going to sell my current pc hopefully get around 300 parting it out if im lucky then just get a new pc

thanks for all the help already, but if anyone has any more suggestions on the parts im using for my build please do so

so right now i think im going to drop the raptor and just get a 3-400gb sata
 

Blain

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An upgrade such as that would be worth it for the feeling of calm and contentment that it would bring to your soul.
Immediately after that feeling subsides... SHEER TERROR that you made the wrong choice!
 

crydee

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You might want to do a fresh install of windows.. can fix up a lot of problems and will make your everyday tasks faster.

Don't get a raptor. You won't notice the difference and it's a waste of money... just get a nice 7200.10 320GB for 90$
 

NuroMancer

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Originally posted by: crydee
You might want to do a fresh install of windows.. can fix up a lot of problems and will make your everyday tasks faster.

Don't get a raptor. You won't notice the difference and it's a waste of money... just get a nice 7200.10 320GB for 90$

A Raptor is not a waste of money in all situations. While I agree the op would hardly notice the difference, generalizing the Raptor as a waste of money would be incorrect.
 

crydee

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I wasn't saying the raptor was a waste. For what the OP does the raptor would be a waste, it won't make browsing the net faster.
 

stevolution

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It really depends on what kind of multimedia work and how much multimedia work you are doing on your computer. It is a significant upgrade from P4 to C2D but in terms of newsgroup/internet and DVD burning, it wouldn't make diff as those depend on internet speed and DVD burner speed.

If you are doing alot of DVD rips or re-encoding them then definitely get C2D (and yes definitely is worth upgrading) but I would strongly suggest you wait for the new C2Ds that are coming out soon.

C2Ds are running with 65nm tech and they run pretty cool. You can get descent overclock out of em without buying an after-market cooler.


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Dutchmaster420

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what are the new core 2 duos coming out...is it really worth waiting....i mean you gotta buy sometime


i got everything down to about 950 using zipzoomfly and newegg

 

stevolution

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I too would not say Raptor is a waste of money. But then again you are not really using the computer for gaming or anything that makes the harddrive the cause of a bottleneck(for video encoding the processor is more of a bottleneck than a hardrive). I would suggest getting a large harddrive as opposed to getting a Raptor as space is what you need for downloading, rips, encoding etc.

If you just want speed then feel free to get Raptor. It is the fastest single harddrive solution out for SATA. You will feel the difference when booting etc. It really depends on whether you think $/MB is worth it or not for your purposes.

 

stevolution

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Originally posted by: Dutchmaster420
what are the new core 2 duos coming out...is it really worth waiting....i mean you gotta buy sometime


i got everything down to about 950 using zipzoomfly and newegg

The new revised C2Ds are called E6650, E6750, E6450 E6350. Currently E6400 has 2MB cache but if you wait for the new E6450, you get extra 2MB cache (totals to 4MB = same as E6600) for the price of E6400 so you get to save some money there. But if you are really keen for an upgrade now then go ahead :) you'll be impressed with C2D
 

Jjoshua2

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These new C2D's what price will they be? Do you have a link or anything? When will e6600's drop to $225 on ebay and anandtech for sale? Like not till brisbane comes out in a year?
 

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Originally posted by: Dutchmaster420
i mosly use my pc for newsgroup dling and dvd burning...basically just internet and multimedia purposes

my setup right now is a 2.6c, 2x 512mb ram, 200gb hd pata,

would it be worth it to upgrade to e6600 and 2x 1gb ram, raptor...

would it be a very noticable increase?

Similar to the OP, I had a 2.4c (overclocked to 3.0), 2x512MB DDR1, 200 GB SATA, and a Nvidia 6600 GT (AGP). I opted to buy an E6300 from my local Fry's for $169, and they threw in this ECS PM800 motherboard for free. Normally I wouldn't touch an ECS motherboard, but this scenario offered a way to upgrade in 2 stages. CPU and motherboard first (keeping existing components), and then upgrade the peripherals later.

I simply removed my existing DDR1 RAM and AGP video card, removed the old Northwood CPU and motherboard and installed the new combo. I hooked everything up back up and it worked flawlessly the first time with no issues. Great increase in speed with regard to load times on BF2 and other applications.

I was thinking that later I'd invest in a new motherboard, DDR2 RAM, and a new video card... but at this point I'm thinking, why bother? I have the current setup mildly overclocked to just shy of 2 Ghz. Not bad for a sub-$200 upgrade. Just my 2 cents...
 

happy medium

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Originally posted by: Dutchmaster420
i mosly use my pc for newsgroup dling and dvd burning...basically just internet and multimedia purposes

my setup right now is a 2.6c, 2x 512mb ram, 200gb hd pata,

would it be worth it to upgrade to e6600 and 2x 1gb ram, raptor...

would it be a very noticable increase?

You really don't need to upgrade, but if you must!

Buy the cheapest core duo e6300 180.00$ ?
A Gigabyte ds3 motherboard- 135.00$
2 gigs of Gskill ram- 200.00$
fastest dvd combo burner - 50 bucks? (unless you have a good one)
Seagate 320gb, 7200.10 hard drive -90 bucks and real fast.

Anything more is a waste of money for what you use the computer for.



 

Dutchmaster420

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i already upgraded and got 4gb pc6400, e6700, bad axe 2, 150gb raptor, 500gb samsung 3.0 sata, ac7 freezer 7 pro heatisnk, evga 7300 vid card for now, sata dvd burner