I'll probably be upgrading this summer, current system can be found in sig. Looks like the only advantage AM2 would really offer me is DDR2 capability, and even that doesn't seem to be that big of a deal. So think it'd be good to instead keep my current motherboard, and just get a socket 939 X2 processor and add another gig of DDR memory?
Worth the jump to AM2 this summer?
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It would certainly be the cheaper thing to do.
Personally I don't really think DDR2 is at all worth the extra money it would cost to get a new motherboard. Also I don't think there will be any worthy motherboards out until at least Q4 of this year. The motherboards that are first released will be good, but not nearly as great as some of the current Skt 939 motherboards.
Personally I don't really think DDR2 is at all worth the extra money it would cost to get a new motherboard. Also I don't think there will be any worthy motherboards out until at least Q4 of this year. The motherboards that are first released will be good, but not nearly as great as some of the current Skt 939 motherboards.
That is also a consideration, but 1) Intel's prices would simply have to be more competitive, as AMD has always offered the better value since I've been building computers, and 2) since I already have a nice socket 939 board and a gig of really good DDR memory, I think if I just got an X2 processor and doubled my RAM I'd be good for another year to 18 months, wouldn't you think?
It should last you more then a year to 18 months, especially if you are talking about games since most of them are more video card dependant then anything else.
i just ordered the AsRock mobo with the future slot... I'm not sure if i'll make the jump to AM2. Maybe, after i see some benchmarks on that particular board using the futureslot.
Whenever quad core CPUs come out, I'll get whichever board supports them. I'm REALLY stretching my Athlon XP 2600+ out. 
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Originally posted by: JackBurton
Whenever quad core CPUs come out, I'll get whichever board supports them. I'm REALLY stretching my Athlon XP 2600+ out.
Quad cores are useless since we as consumer end users are not yet fully reaping the benefits from dual cores. I think quad cores will kick off in 2008+ at the earliest for consumers, and will be fully utilised by software in 2010. Most non enthusiast end users haven?t even heard of dual cores yet.
Its useless .. well .. unless you are a Server power user, that likes to play database
Speak for yourself.Originally posted by: RichUK
Originally posted by: JackBurton
Whenever quad core CPUs come out, I'll get whichever board supports them. I'm REALLY stretching my Athlon XP 2600+ out.
Quad cores are useless since we as consumer end users are not yet fully reaping the benefits from dual cores. I think quad cores will kick off in 2008+ at the earliest for consumers, and will be fully utilised by software in 2010. Most non enthusiast end users haven?t even heard of dual cores yet.
Its useless .. well .. unless you are a Server power user, that likes to play database
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I just wanted to make sure I wouldn't be wasting money by buying another socket 939 chip and another gig of DDR (NOT DDR2) memory.
Originally posted by: RichUK
Originally posted by: JackBurton
Whenever quad core CPUs come out, I'll get whichever board supports them. I'm REALLY stretching my Athlon XP 2600+ out.
Quad cores are useless since we as consumer end users are not yet fully reaping the benefits from dual cores. I think quad cores will kick off in 2008+ at the earliest for consumers, and will be fully utilised by software in 2010. Most non enthusiast end users haven?t even heard of dual cores yet.
Its useless .. well .. unless you are a Server power user, that likes to play database
There's plenty of multithreaded software out already that has nothing to do with database servers.
I don't really see why people are "voting for Conroe" in this thread when 1) you don't know if the price would be competitive yet to a comparably-performing AMD part, and 2) the point of this thread is asking if I'd be okay with keeping my current board and getting an X2 and more RAM, NOT if I should build a Conroe system.
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Originally posted by: JackBurton
Speak for yourself.Originally posted by: RichUK
Originally posted by: JackBurton
Whenever quad core CPUs come out, I'll get whichever board supports them. I'm REALLY stretching my Athlon XP 2600+ out.
Quad cores are useless since we as consumer end users are not yet fully reaping the benefits from dual cores. I think quad cores will kick off in 2008+ at the earliest for consumers, and will be fully utilised by software in 2010. Most non enthusiast end users haven?t even heard of dual cores yet.
Its useless .. well .. unless you are a Server power user, that likes to play database
I was trying not to be that presumptuous on your uses of a PC/Workstation, however i assume that your work load coming from a single core 2600+ wouldn't warrant it. I simply wanted to point out my views on future quad threaded or multi threaded apps.
And these consumer end user apps would be ... Please do go on ...
You do realise that apps that are classed as multi threaded, do not necessarily mean that they are coded to spawn the same amount of simultaneous threads to be processed, for each of the processing cores available, right?
Quad cores come in handy with large processing work loads. That?s right the work loads you might find on servers, servers that do not serve one user but many users.
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1) Anand and Co have already released preliminary info on the up coming price range for Conroe. I'll see if i can find a link to the recent article, but going by the info albeit accurate, you will see some very aggressive pricing coming from the Intel camp with its new release.
2) Well after reading your previous post (not in the OP), for example:
I agree, and i would probably recommend going with the X2 3800+, or an opty 165 if OCing is your thing. With regards to memory, i think you are unsure mostly about the AM2 upgrade and the DDR2 aspects. So i would recommend just to go with s939 now, or wait for the up coming price cuts, then just get some cheepo 2GB sticks. I doubt you will need recommendations on RAM choice.
The reason I'm using a 2600+ is because when I upgrade I want to see a substantial performance increase. I also use a dual processor hyperthreaded Xeon workstation at work, but I'm looking for a more powerful machine to crunch some numbers.Originally posted by: RichUK
I was trying not to be that presumptuous on your uses of a PC/Workstation, however i assume that your work load coming from a single core 2600+ wouldn't warrant it. I simply wanted to point out my views on future quad threaded or multi threaded apps.
You also do not need multithreaded apps to take advantage of multicore CPUs. Simply running several CPU intensive apps in parallel would give you a substaintial performance increase from a single core compared to a multi core CPU. At home I can only run one CPU intensive task, and I have to wait until it is done before my machine returns back to a usable state. A dual core, or better yet a quad core CPU would REALLY help me out. I have an app that will take up to 10-14 days to finish (I think it finished in 7 days on the dual Xeon workstation). This particular app IS multithreaded and would really benefit from a quad core CPU, but even better, I can run other CPU intensive tasks if needed. The more cores the better for me. I can ALWAYS put them to work. The only people that think something like this is useless, is someone that doesn't do much with their PC and assumes everyone else does the same (and I don't call playing games, doing alot with a PC).
That's what I'm thinking for sure. A socket 939 X2, 2 GB of DDR, and a new video card this fall should surely do me well all of 2007.
I am in the same spot as you right now, I already have nice memory so I am just purchasing a X2 3800+, now is the time too, the 0600+ steppings are pulling some sweet clock speeds
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