Worth it to get GTX 460?

[Castiel]

With GTX 560 less then 3 weeks away?

I'm looking at this one as some can do 1Ghz

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-123-_-Product

 

[tweakboy]

The 560 is about avg 120 dollars more then 460 1GB

best bang for the buck is a 460 1GB version.

The 560 will be 300 dollars or maybe 280 dollars. Thanks,,

 

[happy medium]

I would definitly wait for the gtx560 at this point. It should be faster then the 6870 and overclock near 6950 levels.
It should release on about the week of the 20th and be priced somewhere inbetween the 6870 and 6950. $225 to $280

There will also be another card that will replace the gtx460 performance bracket but not much info is known yet.

 

[Castiel]

The 560 is about avg 120 dollars more then 460 1GB

best bang for the buck is a 460 1GB version.

The 560 will be 300 dollars or maybe 280 dollars. Thanks,,

Also not sure how they can price the 560 at 300 when the 570 is 50 dollars more.

I would definitly wait for the gtx560 at this point. It should be faster then the 6870 and overclock near 6950 levels.
It should release on about the week of the 20th and be priced somewhere inbetween the 6870 and 6950. $225 to $280

There will also be another card that will replace the gtx460 performance bracket but not much info is known yet.

The 550 happy? God damn gotta love Nvidia's way to just roll out cards

 

[happy medium]

The 550 happy? God damn gotta love Nvidia's way to just roll out cards

or possibly the gtx560se. Performance should be smack in the center of the 6850 and 6870. Slightly faster then the gtx460.

 

[3DVagabond]

If you can wait a few weeks, why not? You might get a better card, with the 560, or a better deal on the 460. I doubt the 560 will be a better deal, though.

I would assume that the 560 is going to be a better performing card and be set at a higher price. While the 460 is a great deal for us consumers, I can't imagine that anyone trying to earn a living on selling them thinks they are so great. At least for the prices they sell for in the States. Here in NZ they're about $25.00+ more expensive than the 6850. Go figure?

 

[Grooveriding]

The 560 will come with an 820 core clock and 384sp. Expect it to perform about 10% faster than a 460 at 820 core will.

I would say the 460 is the much better choice, the 560 is expected to be set to come in at the $250-$275 price point.

Expect to see the same situation you see comparing a 580 to a 480, 15% faster. The caveat to that being at the same clocks a 580 is only 5% faster than a 480, and the bulk of it's performance over a 480 is a higher clock speed, that will not be the case with the 560 as it has a bigger shader bump over a 460 than a 580 does over a 480. But it will not get the kind of overclocks 460s can which usually get an easy 200-250 more. Don't expect to see 560s all running at 1000+ with the same ease.

Just buy a 460 and overclock it for much less cash. If you can get it 900 core, it will be faster than a stock 560, if you can do 1000 core (unlikely) it will be faster than even many overclocked 560s.

Pricewise 460 - $150, 560 - $250 at the least. $100 more for 20% more performance, not worth it.

 

[RavenSEAL]

GTX 560 is set to be priced at around 260-280 USD.

 

[Insomniator]

I agree with Groover here, I just don't the the 560 changing the game much for the GTX 460 1GB which has already been available for 150 or less.

The gap between the 460 and 570 is so large that the 560 will probably be replacing the 470 in the 250ish range and have nothing to do with a 460.

This is also why I picked up a 470 for 190 after rebate... I don't see a performance increase at these price points that makes waiting even longer worth it.

 

[maniacalpha1-1]

Is the 560 release going to have a price effect on cards in the 460/6850 bracket?

I am about to buy a card very soon, so figured I ask for opinions on that...

 

[RavenSEAL]

Is the 560 release going to have a price effect on cards in the 460/6850 bracket?

I am about to buy a card very soon, so figured I ask for opinions on that...

Considering the current price gap, I seriously doubt it.

 

[happy medium]

The 560 will come with an 820 core clock and 384sp. Expect it to perform about 10% faster than a 460 at 820 core will.

Stock for stock, gtx 460 vs 560, the gtx 560 will be at least 25% faster.
You can quote me on that.
25% faster should put it at 5870 levels. A 5870 can overclock to 6950 levels.
Overclock the gtx560 and it will be very close to 6950 levels.

 

[happy medium]

Is the 560 release going to have a price effect on cards in the 460/6850 bracket?

I am about to buy a card very soon, so figured I ask for opinions on that...

Na it will change the 6870/6950 bracket.
It might bump the 6870 down some and in turn bump the 6850 and gtx 460 some? Thats hard to figure.

If they release/announce the next card down (gtx560se?) that will shake up prices though.

 

[maniacalpha1-1]

Wouldn't the GTS 550 be the next one down? Either way, how much farther behind could the 550 be, I presume that it would have an effect on the aforementioned price range?

 

[happy medium]

Wouldn't the GTS 550 be the next one down? Either way, how much farther behind could the 550 be, I presume that it would have an effect on the aforementioned price range?

Right now the card under the gtx560 is just a rumer but remember they did release 2 gtx460 cards at the same time.

 

[SickBeast]

If you're looking to spend $200, either splurge now on an AMD 6950, or else wait. The GTX 460 768mb has been a great deal at ~$110, and I've seen some of the 1gb cards go for as little as $135. IMO it's not worth $65 for a little bit of overclocking potential.

My $120 MSI Cyclone 768mb card hits 925mhz on the core easily. I could probably hit at least 950mhz if I increase the fan speed.

 

[Wreckage]

If you're looking to spend $200, either splurge now on an AMD 6950, or else wait. The GTX 460 768mb has been a great deal at ~$110, and I've seen some of the 1gb cards go for as little as $135. IMO it's not worth $65 for a little bit of overclocking potential.

My $120 MSI Cyclone 768mb card hits 925mhz on the core easily. I could probably hit at least 950mhz if I increase the fan speed.

6950s run $300

 

[tviceman]

Stock for stock, gtx 460 vs 560, the gtx 560 will be at least 25% faster.
You can quote me on that.
25% faster should put it at 5870 levels. A 5870 can overclock to 6950 levels.
Overclock the gtx560 and it will be very close to 6950 levels.

I'll go a step further than you! I think the hd6950 will be a faster solution at 2560x1600, but at 1920x1200 with 4x AA the performance difference between the two cards at stock will be, on average, 5%.

 

[Castiel]

I appreciate the Amd suggestions but i'm done with them and there terrible drivers. I just picked up a pair of them for 350.. "I had a 50 dollar newegg gift card". Can't wait to see what they can do in SLI with Sandy Bridge

 

[happy medium]

I appreciate the Amd suggestions but i'm done with them and there terrible drivers. I just picked up a pair of them for 350.. "I had a 50 dollar newegg gift card". Can't wait to see what they can do in SLI with Sandy Bridge

ARe you using it the 4870x2 system?

If you overclock both gtx460's, I bet it will be as fast as your current quadfire setup. Do us a favor and come back and let us know.

 

[Castiel]

ARe you using it the 4870x2 system?

If you overclock both gtx460's, I bet it will be as fast as your current quadfire setup. Do us a favor and come back and let us know.

There's not enough room to run both of them on my current board but i'll test a single 460 vs a single X2.

 

[cusideabelincoln]

I don't see the prices on the GTX 460 changing very much. So yes, a 460 is good if you want one.

Take happy's information about the GTS 550 with a huge grain of salt.

The 560 25% faster than a 460 is on the high side. I would bet it being just 20-22% faster, right where the GTX 470 sits. The GTX 470 will most likely still retain a few advantages, like extra memory, but the 560 will have advantages of its own.

 

[SickBeast]

6950s run $300

I know this; it's why I told him to "splurge" or else just get a cheap 460.

 

[nOOky]

I wouldn't think it would be worth it over the rig in your signature...

 

[jiffylube1024]

With GTX 560 less then 3 weeks away?

I'm looking at this one as some can do 1Ghz

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-123-_-Product

Stock for stock, gtx 460 vs 560, the gtx 560 will be at least 25% faster.
You can quote me on that.
25% faster should put it at 5870 levels. A 5870 can overclock to 6950 levels.
Overclock the gtx560 and it will be very close to 6950 levels.

If you plan on overclocking the GTX 460, especially if you plan on pushing it well over 800 MHz, then the impact of getting a GTX 560 will be minimized.

Based on the specs and information that we have now, the GTX 560 is basically a fully unlocked GF104 (which Nvidia is calling the GF114).

The GTX 460 has a base clock of a puny 675 MHz (with tons of room to grow). The GTX 560 has a base clock of a beefy 820 MHz, or 21.5% faster!

Regarding shader power, the GF 104 just has 1 more shader unit, pushing the shader count from 336 to 380, an increase of 13% in shader power.
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Considering the GTX 560 is rumoured to be priced at $260-280, and you can find GTX 460s for under $200, I'd say that a GTX 460 1GB is a great deal right now, and you won't miss much from a GTX 560 if you're overclocking.