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Worth going for 6800 instead of trusty 9800Pro?

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FrustratedUser

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Helping a friend of mine to make a new rig. It it wort going with a base nVidia 6800 over a ATi 9800 Pro?
Basically a 9800Pro ~$200 from Newegg and the 6800 (w/ dual DVI) is $270.

I am not sure what games he will run.
 
A 6600GT is a better comparison. It costs just slightly over a 9800 Pro and is noticeably faster in many cases, and just as fast in most other cases. The 6800 will be faster than either, but whether it's worth the $70 more is your call, or your friend's call.
 
Originally posted by: Goi
A 6600GT is a better comparison. It costs just slightly over a 9800 Pro and is noticeably faster in many cases, and just as fast in most other cases. The 6800 will be faster than either, but whether it's worth the $70 more is your call, or your friend's call.
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70 dollars?
You can get a 6600GT AGP for $222 and a 6800NU for $253. I would spend a little more and get the 6800NU.. Its better than the 6600GT and if you can softmod it it will be even better.
 
I was using his figures of 200 for the 9800Pro and 270 for the 6800. The 6800 that you linked to doesn't have dual DVI that he listed.
 
Originally posted by: FrustratedUser
OK thanks. The 6800 it is.

I'm staying with my 9700Pro. hopefully it still holds up for some 1600 x 1200 gaming when the 2001FP comes in.
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I don't run any games at 1600x1200 on my 9700 pro, even older games... But I can tell you now that no new game will run that high. Card is 2-3 years old now.
 
Originally posted by: malak
Originally posted by: FrustratedUser
OK thanks. The 6800 it is.

I'm staying with my 9700Pro. hopefully it still holds up for some 1600 x 1200 gaming when the 2001FP comes in.
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I don't run any games at 1600x1200 on my 9700 pro, even older games... But I can tell you now that no new game will run that high. Card is 2-3 years old now.
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I'm not running Doom 3 or HL2. I'm sticking with MOH series and occational BF1942. I'll get a new card if I need to.
 
OK I have a 9800 Pr oI just put in a new computer and unfortunately it is "old" technology. I would definitely get a 6800. For the price difference I think it is definitely worth it.

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Originally posted by: FrustratedUser
Originally posted by: malak
Originally posted by: FrustratedUser
OK thanks. The 6800 it is.

I'm staying with my 9700Pro. hopefully it still holds up for some 1600 x 1200 gaming when the 2001FP comes in.
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I don't run any games at 1600x1200 on my 9700 pro, even older games... But I can tell you now that no new game will run that high. Card is 2-3 years old now.
Click to expand...

I'm not running Doom 3 or HL2. I'm sticking with MOH series and occational BF1942. I'll get a new card if I need to.
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You will be fine. A 9700 Pro might run a tad slower, but my 9800 Pro runs HL2 @ 1600 x 1200 with no problems.

D3 and Far Cry will likely be a bit slow, but anything else will be fine @ 1600 x 1200.
 
What processor are you building the system around?

If you get a 9800 Pro, I certainly wouldn't get one new; the prices are high for the 8-pipe 256-bit ones. However, a used 9800 Pro can be a great buy, even when compared to the 6800; you can probably find one on Ebay in the $150 range or maybe even less. This is coming from someone who just switched from a 9700 to the 6800. Yes, the 6800 is faster...but unless you play a lot of Doom 3, it may not be worth it.

I will say that if you end up deciding between the 6600GT and the 6800NU, that if you're going AGP, the 6800 wins no contest, the 6600GT costs within 10-20 bucks, and has four less pipelines.
 
Originally posted by: Insane3D
Originally posted by: FrustratedUser
Originally posted by: malak
Originally posted by: FrustratedUser
OK thanks. The 6800 it is.

I'm staying with my 9700Pro. hopefully it still holds up for some 1600 x 1200 gaming when the 2001FP comes in.
Click to expand...

I don't run any games at 1600x1200 on my 9700 pro, even older games... But I can tell you now that no new game will run that high. Card is 2-3 years old now.
Click to expand...

I'm not running Doom 3 or HL2. I'm sticking with MOH series and occational BF1942. I'll get a new card if I need to.
Click to expand...

You will be fine. A 9700 Pro might run a tad slower, but my 9800 Pro runs HL2 @ 1600 x 1200 with no problems.

D3 and Far Cry will likely be a bit slow, but anything else will be fine @ 1600 x 1200.
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What 9800pro, and what clock & mem speeds? My 128/256 9800pro at 396/349 won't even run it at 12x10 with full eye candy & 4aa/8af.

Anyway, both cards have a similar price performance ratio and are good choices, though the 6800nu is a bit more future-proof and possibly moddable to 16 pipelines, I'd say it depends what your friend wants to spend.
 
Doom 3 does not take as much power as ppl think. My 9800 Pro 128MB 256 bit runs doom 3 at 1024X768 ultra settings, 16x af, at around 50 fps, and i could kick in 4XAA at the same time and still be in the mid 40s easy.
 
Originally posted by: dguy6789
Doom 3 does not take as much power as ppl think. My 9800 Pro 128MB 256 bit runs doom 3 at 1024X768 ultra settings, 16x af, at around 50 fps, and i could kick in 4XAA at the same time and still be in the mid 40s easy.
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Mine didn't do that well... no AA, AF, 40fps solid at 1024 medium detail.

but it was easily playable and looked fine (when you could see)
 
Speaking of AF, I see everyone specifying a certain level of it in Doom 3. I don't recall seeing an option in the advanced config tab allowing a choice. I recall the one for AA. Is AF controlled in the game or in the nVidia control panel?
 
Originally posted by: Gurck

What 9800pro, and what clock & mem speeds? My 128/256 9800pro at 396/349 won't even run it at 12x10 with full eye candy & 4aa/8af.
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My 9800 Pro runs @ 420/360 (720), and @ 1600 x 1200, I don't use AA...seems kinda silly. Why are you running AA @ 1600 x 1200...it really makes almost no difference at such a high res. Also, I've noticed no noticable difference in visuals when I drop AF down, and even disable it. I keep all setting in HL2 @ max however.


You should try it without AA and lower AF.
 
Originally posted by: LoneWolf15
What processor are you building the system around?

If you get a 9800 Pro, I certainly wouldn't get one new; the prices are high for the 8-pipe 256-bit ones. However, a used 9800 Pro can be a great buy, even when compared to the 6800; you can probably find one on Ebay in the $150 range or maybe even less. This is coming from someone who just switched from a 9700 to the 6800. Yes, the 6800 is faster...but unless you play a lot of Doom 3, it may not be worth it.

I will say that if you end up deciding between the 6600GT and the 6800NU, that if you're going AGP, the 6800 wins no contest, the 6600GT costs within 10-20 bucks, and has four less pipelines.
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A64 3500. He's getting everything new. I told him to get the 6800, it looks like the best choice.
 
Originally posted by: Insane3D
Originally posted by: Gurck

What 9800pro, and what clock & mem speeds? My 128/256 9800pro at 396/349 won't even run it at 12x10 with full eye candy & 4aa/8af.
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My 9800 Pro runs @ 420/360 (720), and @ 1600 x 1200, I don't use AA...seems kinda silly. Why are you running AA @ 1600 x 1200...it really makes almost no difference at such a high res. Also, I've noticed no noticable difference in visuals when I drop AF down, and even disable it. I keep all setting in HL2 @ max however.


You should try it without AA and lower AF.
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I agree, I was running everything max at 16x12 and 4xaa, 8x as, I switched them to 2x aa, 4xas, then completely off and noticed no difference. Maybe I am just blind, but at 16x12, it all looks pretty..

-spike
 
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