Worst music..emo, death metal or the whole rap/hip hop scene?

[JLGatsby]

Originally posted by: joedrake
So, you were trying to say, "Wow, a 80x120 image..."?
You are truly master of the grammar, too, btw.
Also, C is no where near A or N, so it was more than just a typo.

:thumbsdown:

Did you learn that in skool today?

 

[EatSpam]

Rap/hip hop... FTL

 

[JDrake]

Originally posted by: JLGatsby

Originally posted by: joedrake

No one would misspell "a" (what it was intended to say) as "can." So clearly it was a typo, not a spelling error.

So, you were trying to say, "Wow, a 80x120 image..."?
You are truly master of the grammar, too, btw.
Also, C is no where near A or N, so it was more than just a typo.

:thumbsdown:

Did you learn that in skool today?[/quote][/quote]No, but they taught us how to quote properly.

 

[imported_Lucifer]

Originally posted by: torpid

Originally posted by: Lucifer

Originally posted by: torpid

Originally posted by: Lucifer
I can't believe so many morons dislike death metal just because of the vocals. Listen to it for the music. The musicians are extremely talented.

Most people like Papa Roach with crappy musicians, yet they hate bands like Death because the way the singer's vocals are.

CRAPPY VOCALS EQUALS CRAPPY MUSIC!1!1! Retards.

What sort of nonsense is this? Vocals is part of the music. Do you listen to death metal at a karaoke bar or something? I listen to it with the vocals. If the vocals sound like ass it's kind of hard to appreciate any other aspects of it. Even bands where the vocals sound weird eventually grow on you, like Talking Heads or The Decemberists. Death metal never grows on you because it's not that you are unaccustomed to the vocals, it's that the vocals sound like crap.

What are you on about? If your attention only goes to the vocals, then you're a moron. I love the awesome guitaring, drumming etc. If you don't like the vocals and can't appreciate the music, maybe you should stick to listening to Fall out boy and Papa Roach.

I'm referring to the fact that you think that vocals and music are two seperate things. Vocals are part of music.

It doesn't go only to the vocals. But it's like trying to listen to beethoven while my cat is wailing. Not exactly a great musical experience. Why would I bother listening to a genre that at best sounds like that, and at worst sounds like my cat wailing during garbage cans clanging together? I choose to listen to music which doesn't sound at all like a cat wailing. Keep in mind I do not actually think death metal vocals sound like cats wailing, it's an analogy.

I would appreciate the classical music. Who cares about the vocals. I am huge on instrumental music. But I listen to a lot of death metal because they are extremely talented musicians. Vocals hardly bother me.

And your analogy is flawed. Just because there is a cat wailing in the background does not mean the classical music is terrible. Learn to appreciate music.

 

[JLGatsby]

Originally posted by: joedrake
No, but they taught us how to quote properly.

Don't reply so fast.

My Post: Edited: 04/28/2006 at 05:42 PM by JLGatsby

Your post: 04/28/2006 05:43 PM

 

[JohnAn2112]

Originally posted by: KeithTalent

Originally posted by: Eli
Not all death metal is bad.

Opeth FTW :thumbsup:

In Flames FTW also!

 

[WT]

Everyone grab your lighter and join me now:

:music: Every

Has Its Thorn :music:

 

[SampSon]

Country is the worst, followed closely by Morrissey.

 

[FoBoT]

rap/hip hop

 

[Mo0o]

While the guitaring in death metal might be impressive, i really dont want to have to filter out the incessant screaming of the front man just to appreciate the music. This is one of the few genre's i've never got into for precisely that reason. Why does the vocals have to suck so much ass? Why can't metal just combine good vocals with good guitaring. Seems like Metallica had decent vocals to match the guitars. Some of the death metal people wit hthe 5 meter spikes coming out of their crotch and black/white make are really pushing it.

I enjoy hip/hop because it generates a beat that's easy to move to and very dancable. While the lyrics may not be the deepest, there are still witty one liners thrown in and most of the time it rhymes, which is a step up from "ARGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH" of death metal.

 

[imported_Lucifer]

Originally posted by: Mo0o
While the guitaring in death metal might be impressive, i really dont want to have to filter out the incessant screaming of the front man just to appreciate the music. This is one of the few genre's i've never got into for precisely that reason. Why does the vocals have to suck so much ass? Why can't metal just combine good vocals with good guitaring. Seems like Metallica had decent vocals to match the guitars. Some of the death metal people wit hthe 5 meter spikes coming out of their crotch and black/white make are really pushing it.

I enjoy hip/hop because it generates a beat that's easy to move to and very dancable. While the lyrics may not be the deepest, there are still witty one liners thrown in and most of the time it rhymes, which is a step up from "ARGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH" of death metal.

If you can't appreciate music, then yeah, it would be hard to filter it out.

You really must not know metal if all you can think about is Metallica. There are so much more better metal bands with "good" vocals and awesome guitar work.

 

[torpid]

Originally posted by: Lucifer
I would appreciate the classical music. Who cares about the vocals. I am huge on instrumental music. But I listen to a lot of death metal because they are extremely talented musicians. Vocals hardly bother me.

And your analogy is flawed. Just because there is a cat wailing in the background does not mean the classical music is terrible. Learn to appreciate music.

Except that vocals are part of the music. You play the cd and you hear some crappy vocals and possibly some good instrumental work. If beethoven's fifth called for a cat wailing, I wouldn't like beethoven's fifth. Not hard to figure out. One can appreciate music without wanting to listen to some god awful singing on top of otherwise decent instrumentals. I also don't want to go to an art museum where a naked old man stands in front of every painting. Sorry, I'm not going to enjoy the artwork with the hideous crap right in front of it. Unless you are a masochist, you don't mind the vocals. That's different than minding the vocals but still listening to the songs.

 

[ShadowBlade]

rap/hip-hop by a long shot

 

[Mo0o]

Originally posted by: Lucifer

Originally posted by: Mo0o
While the guitaring in death metal might be impressive, i really dont want to have to filter out the incessant screaming of the front man just to appreciate the music. This is one of the few genre's i've never got into for precisely that reason. Why does the vocals have to suck so much ass? Why can't metal just combine good vocals with good guitaring. Seems like Metallica had decent vocals to match the guitars. Some of the death metal people wit hthe 5 meter spikes coming out of their crotch and black/white make are really pushing it.

I enjoy hip/hop because it generates a beat that's easy to move to and very dancable. While the lyrics may not be the deepest, there are still witty one liners thrown in and most of the time it rhymes, which is a step up from "ARGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH" of death metal.

If you can't appreciate music, then yeah, it would be hard to filter it out.

You really must not know metal if all you can think about is Metallica. There are so much more better metal bands with "good" vocals and awesome guitar work.

Why I dont understand is why death metal listeners and player insist on having the vocals that even they admit to tuning out. If it's that bad, either dont add it or write something better than pure screaming.

 

[imported_Lucifer]

Originally posted by: torpid

Originally posted by: Lucifer
I would appreciate the classical music. Who cares about the vocals. I am huge on instrumental music. But I listen to a lot of death metal because they are extremely talented musicians. Vocals hardly bother me.

And your analogy is flawed. Just because there is a cat wailing in the background does not mean the classical music is terrible. Learn to appreciate music.

Except that vocals are part of the music. You play the cd and you hear some crappy vocals and possibly some good instrumental work. If beethoven's fifth called for a cat wailing, I wouldn't like beethoven's fifth. Not hard to figure out. One can appreciate music without wanting to listen to some god awful singing on top of otherwise decent instrumentals. I also don't want to go to an art museum where a naked old man stands in front of every painting. Sorry, I'm not going to enjoy the artwork with the hideous crap right in front of it. Unless you are a masochist, you don't mind the vocals. That's different than minding the vocals but still listening to the songs.

Thats because you don't appreciate music. Some country music has god awful singing, but I like a lot of the music.

I'm sorry that you think the vocals are so important, thus ruining an entire song. I can listen to Beethovens fifth with a cat wailing, simply because I would enjoy the music.

Maybe if you played an instrument, you would really appreciate it.

 

[torpid]

Originally posted by: Lucifer
If you can't appreciate music, then yeah, it would be hard to filter it out.

You really must not know metal if all you can think about is Metallica. There are so much more better metal bands with "good" vocals and awesome guitar work.

I think it is you who can't appreciate music. Stop claiming other people can't because they don't like the screaming idiot lead singer, which is BY DEFINITION part of the music. If it weren't part of the music, there wouldn't be a screaming idiot lead singer on the CD. It is precisely because we expect more than just instrumentals combined with awful noise out of music that we don't like it.

You on the other hand are so caught up on instrumentals that you actually don't even consider vocals music, as you have demonstrated several times in this thread. I don't know if you have some aversion to the human voice, don't "appreciate lyrics" or what. Whatever the case, you clearly don't "appreciate music" because you don't think vocals are music, and think that other people should be willing to submit themselves to some crappy vocals just to listen to instrumentals, even though the artist who is actually performing them all wants you to listen to the vocals too.

 

[Mo0o]

Originally posted by: Lucifer

Originally posted by: torpid

Originally posted by: Lucifer
I would appreciate the classical music. Who cares about the vocals. I am huge on instrumental music. But I listen to a lot of death metal because they are extremely talented musicians. Vocals hardly bother me.

And your analogy is flawed. Just because there is a cat wailing in the background does not mean the classical music is terrible. Learn to appreciate music.

Except that vocals are part of the music. You play the cd and you hear some crappy vocals and possibly some good instrumental work. If beethoven's fifth called for a cat wailing, I wouldn't like beethoven's fifth. Not hard to figure out. One can appreciate music without wanting to listen to some god awful singing on top of otherwise decent instrumentals. I also don't want to go to an art museum where a naked old man stands in front of every painting. Sorry, I'm not going to enjoy the artwork with the hideous crap right in front of it. Unless you are a masochist, you don't mind the vocals. That's different than minding the vocals but still listening to the songs.

Thats because you don't appreciate music. Some country music has god awful singing, but I like a lot of the music.

I'm sorry that you think the vocals are so important, thus ruining an entire song. I can listen to Beethovens fifth with a cat wailing, simply because I would enjoy the music.

Maybe if you played an instrument, you would really appreciate it.

Even if I appreciate the music, wouldn't it be better to just listen to the music and not be forced to tune out the screaming? I've already agreed that appreciating the music itself is important, especially in death metal since we both agree the vocals are like a wailing cat. So why dont they get rid of the vocals entirely or create more melodic vocals that complement the music? Surely there are better harmonies to the instruments than screaming.

 

[imported_Lucifer]

Originally posted by: Mo0o

Originally posted by: Lucifer

Originally posted by: Mo0o
While the guitaring in death metal might be impressive, i really dont want to have to filter out the incessant screaming of the front man just to appreciate the music. This is one of the few genre's i've never got into for precisely that reason. Why does the vocals have to suck so much ass? Why can't metal just combine good vocals with good guitaring. Seems like Metallica had decent vocals to match the guitars. Some of the death metal people wit hthe 5 meter spikes coming out of their crotch and black/white make are really pushing it.

I enjoy hip/hop because it generates a beat that's easy to move to and very dancable. While the lyrics may not be the deepest, there are still witty one liners thrown in and most of the time it rhymes, which is a step up from "ARGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH" of death metal.

If you can't appreciate music, then yeah, it would be hard to filter it out.

You really must not know metal if all you can think about is Metallica. There are so much more better metal bands with "good" vocals and awesome guitar work.

Why I dont understand is why death metal listeners and player insist on having the vocals that even they admit to tuning out. If it's that bad, either dont add it or write something better than pure screaming.

Because some people LOVE the vocals. They aren't going to stop doing it just because YOU don't like it. Get that through your head. If you are one of those who mainly pays attention to vocals and don't care for anything else, listen to fall out boy. I'm sure you would enjoy it.

I don't mind the vocals. Hell, I even listen to the strokes mainly because their guitar work isn't that bad.

The thing is, I'm a big instrumental guy. If a song has appealing guitar work, drumming, etc, regardless of a cat wailing in the background, I'll listen to it.

 

[Mo0o]

Originally posted by: Lucifer

Originally posted by: Mo0o

Originally posted by: Lucifer

Originally posted by: Mo0o
While the guitaring in death metal might be impressive, i really dont want to have to filter out the incessant screaming of the front man just to appreciate the music. This is one of the few genre's i've never got into for precisely that reason. Why does the vocals have to suck so much ass? Why can't metal just combine good vocals with good guitaring. Seems like Metallica had decent vocals to match the guitars. Some of the death metal people wit hthe 5 meter spikes coming out of their crotch and black/white make are really pushing it.

I enjoy hip/hop because it generates a beat that's easy to move to and very dancable. While the lyrics may not be the deepest, there are still witty one liners thrown in and most of the time it rhymes, which is a step up from "ARGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH" of death metal.

If you can't appreciate music, then yeah, it would be hard to filter it out.

You really must not know metal if all you can think about is Metallica. There are so much more better metal bands with "good" vocals and awesome guitar work.

Why I dont understand is why death metal listeners and player insist on having the vocals that even they admit to tuning out. If it's that bad, either dont add it or write something better than pure screaming.

Because some people LOVE the vocals. They aren't going to stop doing it just because YOU don't like it. Get that through your head. If you are one of those who mainly pays attention to vocals and don't care for anything else, listen to fall out boy. I'm sure you would enjoy it.

I don't mind the vocals. Hell, I even listen to the strokes mainly because their guitar work isn't that bad.

The thing is, I'm a big instrumental guy. If a song has appealing guitar work, drumming, etc, regardless of a cat wailing in the background, I'll listen to it.

So some people love the angry screaming? do you like the angry screaming?

 

[imported_Lucifer]

Originally posted by: torpid

Originally posted by: Lucifer
If you can't appreciate music, then yeah, it would be hard to filter it out.

You really must not know metal if all you can think about is Metallica. There are so much more better metal bands with "good" vocals and awesome guitar work.

I think it is you who can't appreciate music. Stop claiming other people can't because they don't like the screaming idiot lead singer, which is BY DEFINITION part of the music. If it weren't part of the music, there wouldn't be a screaming idiot lead singer on the CD. It is precisely because we expect more than just instrumentals combined with awful noise out of music that we don't like it.

You on the other hand are so caught up on instrumentals that you actually don't even consider vocals music, as you have demonstrated several times in this thread. I don't know if you have some aversion to the human voice, don't "appreciate lyrics" or what. Whatever the case, you clearly don't "appreciate music" because you don't think vocals are music, and think that other people should be willing to submit themselves to some crappy vocals just to listen to instrumentals, even though the artist who is actually performing them all wants you to listen to the vocals too.

I don't care whether the vocalist wants me to listen to their vocals. Thats not my intent. I want to listen to the music.

I don't care for the vocals. If I really did, I wouldnt ever listen to classical music, and various instrumentals done by Uli Jon Roth, Yngwie, Santana, etc.

You're the one that doesn't appreciate music, as you only pay attention to the singing.

 

[imported_Lucifer]

Originally posted by: Mo0o

Originally posted by: Lucifer

Originally posted by: torpid

Originally posted by: Lucifer
I would appreciate the classical music. Who cares about the vocals. I am huge on instrumental music. But I listen to a lot of death metal because they are extremely talented musicians. Vocals hardly bother me.

And your analogy is flawed. Just because there is a cat wailing in the background does not mean the classical music is terrible. Learn to appreciate music.

Except that vocals are part of the music. You play the cd and you hear some crappy vocals and possibly some good instrumental work. If beethoven's fifth called for a cat wailing, I wouldn't like beethoven's fifth. Not hard to figure out. One can appreciate music without wanting to listen to some god awful singing on top of otherwise decent instrumentals. I also don't want to go to an art museum where a naked old man stands in front of every painting. Sorry, I'm not going to enjoy the artwork with the hideous crap right in front of it. Unless you are a masochist, you don't mind the vocals. That's different than minding the vocals but still listening to the songs.

Thats because you don't appreciate music. Some country music has god awful singing, but I like a lot of the music.

I'm sorry that you think the vocals are so important, thus ruining an entire song. I can listen to Beethovens fifth with a cat wailing, simply because I would enjoy the music.

Maybe if you played an instrument, you would really appreciate it.

Even if I appreciate the music, wouldn't it be better to just listen to the music and not be forced to tune out the screaming? I've already agreed that appreciating the music itself is important, especially in death metal since we both agree the vocals are like a wailing cat. So why dont they get rid of the vocals entirely or create more melodic vocals that complement the music? Surely there are better harmonies to the instruments than screaming.

Then listen to something else. Don't like the music with good guitar work with crappy singing, don't listen to it. Like I said, you can't appreciate the music.

 

[torpid]

Originally posted by: Lucifer
Thats because you don't appreciate music. Some country music has god awful singing, but I like a lot of the music.

I'm sorry that you think the vocals are so important, thus ruining an entire song. I can listen to Beethovens fifth with a cat wailing, simply because I would enjoy the music.

Maybe if you played an instrument, you would really appreciate it.

Your argument gets more and more moronic as time passes. I have played an instrument. I don't recall anyone screaming like an idiot while playing it. With all the good music in the world, why would I choose to listen to something potentially good that is ruined by moronic wailing? I wouldn't. I am not made of time. People only live for a limited amount of time. I can either listen to some instrumentals with some idiot screaming, or I can listen to one of a billion other songs with good instrumentals and NO IDIOT SCREAMING. It's not hard to do the math.

 

[imported_Lucifer]

Originally posted by: Mo0o

Originally posted by: Lucifer

Originally posted by: Mo0o

Originally posted by: Lucifer

Originally posted by: Mo0o
While the guitaring in death metal might be impressive, i really dont want to have to filter out the incessant screaming of the front man just to appreciate the music. This is one of the few genre's i've never got into for precisely that reason. Why does the vocals have to suck so much ass? Why can't metal just combine good vocals with good guitaring. Seems like Metallica had decent vocals to match the guitars. Some of the death metal people wit hthe 5 meter spikes coming out of their crotch and black/white make are really pushing it.

I enjoy hip/hop because it generates a beat that's easy to move to and very dancable. While the lyrics may not be the deepest, there are still witty one liners thrown in and most of the time it rhymes, which is a step up from "ARGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH" of death metal.

If you can't appreciate music, then yeah, it would be hard to filter it out.

You really must not know metal if all you can think about is Metallica. There are so much more better metal bands with "good" vocals and awesome guitar work.

Why I dont understand is why death metal listeners and player insist on having the vocals that even they admit to tuning out. If it's that bad, either dont add it or write something better than pure screaming.

Because some people LOVE the vocals. They aren't going to stop doing it just because YOU don't like it. Get that through your head. If you are one of those who mainly pays attention to vocals and don't care for anything else, listen to fall out boy. I'm sure you would enjoy it.

I don't mind the vocals. Hell, I even listen to the strokes mainly because their guitar work isn't that bad.

The thing is, I'm a big instrumental guy. If a song has appealing guitar work, drumming, etc, regardless of a cat wailing in the background, I'll listen to it.

So some people love the angry screaming? do you like the angry screaming?

I dont care for it. I dont even care for Bruce Dickinsons voice, and I think Iron Maiden is a great band.

 

[Mo0o]

Originally posted by: Lucifer

Originally posted by: torpid

Originally posted by: Lucifer
If you can't appreciate music, then yeah, it would be hard to filter it out.

You really must not know metal if all you can think about is Metallica. There are so much more better metal bands with "good" vocals and awesome guitar work.

I think it is you who can't appreciate music. Stop claiming other people can't because they don't like the screaming idiot lead singer, which is BY DEFINITION part of the music. If it weren't part of the music, there wouldn't be a screaming idiot lead singer on the CD. It is precisely because we expect more than just instrumentals combined with awful noise out of music that we don't like it.

You on the other hand are so caught up on instrumentals that you actually don't even consider vocals music, as you have demonstrated several times in this thread. I don't know if you have some aversion to the human voice, don't "appreciate lyrics" or what. Whatever the case, you clearly don't "appreciate music" because you don't think vocals are music, and think that other people should be willing to submit themselves to some crappy vocals just to listen to instrumentals, even though the artist who is actually performing them all wants you to listen to the vocals too.

I don't care whether the vocalist wants me to listen to their vocals. Thats not my intent. I want to listen to the music.

I don't care for the vocals. If I really did, I wouldnt ever listen to classical music, and various instrumentals done by Uli Jon Roth, Yngwie, Santana, etc.

You're the one that doesn't appreciate music, as you only pay attention to the singing.

If the artist is offering up both the vocals and the instrumental, I pay attention to both. And if the vocals are so bad that if you were to isolate the vocal along it could be used to torture terrorists, then i would rather they take it out of hte song entirely. Thus my aversion to death metal, since when I listen to music I dont want to have to actively filter out an entire chunk of the entire song.

 

[SWScorch]

techno. I can listen to anything (and I do mean anything) except techno. Some of it may sound cool for a few seconds but other than that it just gets on my nerves.