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[warmodder]

Originally posted by: clamum

Originally posted by: rivan
I really don't know why marijuana's illegal. And I don't even smoke the stuff (or want to...).

The only thing I've heard that is logical is that they don't have a quick and easy test to detect the presence of THC in your system like they do for alcohol (breath test). If it were legal, you'd obviously have it illegal to drive on the stuff, and from what I know there's no good test for this right now. They do have tests, but they can detect cannabis usage up to a few days, so you'd get busted for smoking up Monday when you got pulled over Wednesday or something.

I've never heard this, although it makes sense. It's pretty easy to make a visual determination, but I don't think that would stand up in court.

 

[destrekor]

Originally posted by: warmodder

Originally posted by: clamum

Originally posted by: rivan
I really don't know why marijuana's illegal. And I don't even smoke the stuff (or want to...).

The only thing I've heard that is logical is that they don't have a quick and easy test to detect the presence of THC in your system like they do for alcohol (breath test). If it were legal, you'd obviously have it illegal to drive on the stuff, and from what I know there's no good test for this right now. They do have tests, but they can detect cannabis usage up to a few days, so you'd get busted for smoking up Monday when you got pulled over Wednesday or something.

I've never heard this, although it makes sense. It's pretty easy to make a visual determination, but I don't think that would stand up in court.

no that much isn't exactly true. Plenty can hide it, through eye drops, water, and not being all relaxed. I've known a few kids (now in the military themselves, clean now) who I'd run into in school and never know they were high until they told me and they let themselves go a little.

 

[clamum]

Originally posted by: warmodder

Originally posted by: clamum

Originally posted by: rivan
I really don't know why marijuana's illegal. And I don't even smoke the stuff (or want to...).

The only thing I've heard that is logical is that they don't have a quick and easy test to detect the presence of THC in your system like they do for alcohol (breath test). If it were legal, you'd obviously have it illegal to drive on the stuff, and from what I know there's no good test for this right now. They do have tests, but they can detect cannabis usage up to a few days, so you'd get busted for smoking up Monday when you got pulled over Wednesday or something.

I've never heard this, although it makes sense. It's pretty easy to make a visual determination, but I don't think that would stand up in court.

Yeah visual determination wouldn't cut it IMO. Some people you can tell quite obviously, others not so much.

There was this kid who would come into my cryptography class at school just blazed, and would answer all these questions right and if you didn't know the kid, you won't expect that he was high at all. Here I was sober and not knowing wtf was even going on, yeah what a crock.

 

[ConstipatedVigilante]

One of the kids in my calculus class comes in high half the time. He takes notes. I'm just looking at him thinking "wtf?"

 

[Kirby64]

Originally posted by: frostedflakes
First thing that came to mind was the crack vending machine in Futurama, lol.

Same here. Good show :thumbsup:

 

[Alistar7]

Originally posted by: rivan
I really don't know why marijuana's illegal. And I don't even smoke the stuff (or want to...).

No clue if it is true or not but have heard the first major lobbying effort in this country was by the petroleum industry to make sure marijuana was made illegal.

http://www.thehempire.com/inde...d_cars_to_use_gasoline

A blood test can determine if you are under the influence as opposed to just having residual levels of THC in your system. Develop a portable roadside blood test and you will make a mint.

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: Alistar7

Originally posted by: rivan
I really don't know why marijuana's illegal. And I don't even smoke the stuff (or want to...).

No clue if it is true or not but have heard the first major lobbying effort in this country was by the petroleum companies to make sure marijuana was made illegal.

http://www.thehempire.com/inde...d_cars_to_use_gasoline

see i heard it was from one of the rich guys that owned a lot of land. he wanted to use the tree's on the land for paper and stuff. BUT hemp was hugeand it makes better paper and he knew that.

so the rich guy was good friends with the president and caused it to get outlawed..or something like that.

 

[xeemzor]

Originally posted by: ConstipatedVigilante
One of the kids in my calculus class comes in high half the time. He takes notes. I'm just looking at him thinking "wtf?"

Are you a teacher?

I knew some people who were engineering majors with a perfect 4.0 and smoked about 4 times a day.

 

[Alistar7]

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: Alistar7

Originally posted by: rivan
I really don't know why marijuana's illegal. And I don't even smoke the stuff (or want to...).

No clue if it is true or not but have heard the first major lobbying effort in this country was by the petroleum companies to make sure marijuana was made illegal.

http://www.thehempire.com/inde...d_cars_to_use_gasoline

see i heard it was from one of the rich guys that owned a lot of land. he wanted to use the tree's on the land for paper and stuff. BUT hemp was hugeand it makes better paper and he knew that.

so the rich guy was good friends with the president and caused it to get outlawed..or something like that.

That doesn't make much sense. The yield and turnaround with hemp is far superior to trees, and it is much easier/cheaper/environmentally friendly to break down compared to wood. The quality is also much higher and the paper itself lasts much longer. The only reason the US constitution and bill of rights still exist is they were made of hemp paper.

 

[xeemzor]

Originally posted by: Alistar7

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: Alistar7

Originally posted by: rivan
I really don't know why marijuana's illegal. And I don't even smoke the stuff (or want to...).

No clue if it is true or not but have heard the first major lobbying effort in this country was by the petroleum companies to make sure marijuana was made illegal.

http://www.thehempire.com/inde...d_cars_to_use_gasoline

see i heard it was from one of the rich guys that owned a lot of land. he wanted to use the tree's on the land for paper and stuff. BUT hemp was hugeand it makes better paper and he knew that.

so the rich guy was good friends with the president and caused it to get outlawed..or something like that.

That doesn't make much sense. The yield and turnaround with hemp is far superior to trees, and it is much easier/cheaper/environmentally friendly to break down compared to wood. The quality is also much higher and the paper itself lasts much longer. The only reason the US constitution and bill of rights still exist is they were made of hemp paper.

I don't understand why hemp is banned, which doesn't really have enough thc to get high unless you smoke ALOT is illegal when nutmeg, dxm, and a host other drugs are legal. I have never taken any drugs other than thc, but the logic in banning drugs is noticeably poor and full of holes.

 

[Alistar7]

From the article I linked above:

Ford And Diesel Never Intended Cars To Use Gasoline

Henry Ford's first Model-T was built to run on hemp gasoline and the CAR ITSELF WAS CONSTRUCTED FROM HEMP! On his large estate, Ford was photographed among his hemp fields. The car, 'grown from the soil,' had hemp plastic panels whose impact strength was 10 times stronger than steel; Popular Mechanics, 1941.

Rudolf Diesel, the inventor of the diesel engine, designed it to run on vegetable and seed oils like hemp; he actually ran the thing on peanut oil for the 1900 World's Fair. Henry Ford used hemp to not only construct cars but also fuel them.

As an alternative to methanol, hemp has at least one glowing report: the plant produces up to four times more cellulose per acre than trees. And a hemp crop grows a little quicker than a forest.

As for an alternative to petroleum...

Hemp grows like mad from border to border in America; so shortages are unlikely. And, unlike petrol, unless we run out of soil, hemp is renewable.

Growing and harvesting the stuff has much less environmental impact than procuring oil.

Hemp fuel is biodegradable; so oil spills become fertilizer not eco-catastrophes.

Hemp fuel does not contribute to sulfur dioxide air poisoning.

Other noxious emissions like carbon monoxide and hydrocarbons are radically slashed by using "biodiesel.

Hemp fuel is nontoxic and only a mild skin irritant; anybody who,s ever cleaned out an old carburetor with gasoline can confirm the same is not true for petrol.

Growing hemp for fuel would be a tremendous boon for American farmers and the agricultural industry, as opposed to people like, say, the Bush family.

Ford recognized the utility of the hemp plant. He constructed a car of resin stiffened hemp fiber, and even ran the car on ethanol made from hemp. Ford knew that hemp could produce vast economic resources if widely cultivated.

However, gasoline emerged as the dominant transportation fuel in the early twentieth century because of the ease of operation of gasoline engines with the materials then available for engine construction, a growing supply of cheaper petroleum from oil field discoveries, and intense lobbying by petroleum companies for the federal government to maintain steep alcohol taxes. Many bills proposing a National energy program that made use of Americas vast agricultural resources (for fuel production) were killed by smear campaigns launched by vested petroleum interests. One noteworthy claim put forth by petrol companies was that the U.S. government's plans "robbed taxpayers to make farmers rich".

 

[Alistar7]

The many varied uses of hemp:

http://www.torontohemp.com/hempuses.htm

Another interesting side note, the sails on Columbus's ship were made of hemp. Salt water is so destructive to cotton that hemp was the most common material used to make sails.

http://www.world-mysteries.com/marijuana1.htm

* All schoolbooks were made from hemp or flax paper until the 1880s; Hemp Paper Reconsidered, Jack Frazier, 1974.

* It was LEGAL TO PAY TAXES WITH HEMP in America from 1631 until the early 1800s; LA Times, Aug. 12, 1981.

* REFUSING TO GROW HEMP in America during the 17th and 18th Centuries WAS AGAINST THE LAW! You could be jailed in Virginia for refusing to grow hemp from 1763 to 1769; Hemp in Colonial Virginia, G. M. Herdon.

* George Washington, Thomas Jefferson and other founding fathers GREW HEMP; Washington and Jefferson Diaries. Jefferson smuggled hemp seeds from China to France then to America.

* Benjamin Franklin owned one of the first paper mills in America and it processed hemp. Also, the War of 1812 was fought over hemp. Napoleon wanted to cut off Moscow's export to England; Emperor Wears No Clothes, Jack Herer.

* For thousands of years, 90% of all ships' sails and rope were made from hemp. The word 'canvas' is Dutch for cannabis; Webster's New World Dictionary.

* 80% of all textiles, fabrics, clothes, linen, drapes, bed sheets, etc. were made from hemp until the 1820s with the introduction of the cotton gin.

* The first Bibles, maps, charts, Betsy Ross's flag, the first drafts of the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution were made from hemp; U.S. Government Archives.

* The first crop grown in many states was hemp. 1850 was a peak year for Kentucky producing 40,000 tons. Hemp was the largest cash crop until the 20th Century; State Archives.

* Oldest known records of hemp farming go back 5000 years in China, although hemp industrialization probably goes back to ancient Egypt.

* Rembrants, Gainsboroughs, Van Goghs as well as most early canvas paintings were principally painted on hemp linen.

* In 1916, the U.S. Government predicted that by the 1940s all paper would come from hemp and that no more trees need to be cut down. Government studies report that 1 acre of hemp equals 4.1 acres of trees. Plans were in the works to implement such programs; Department of Agriculture

* Quality paints and varnishes were made from hemp seed oil until 1937. 58,000 tons of hemp seeds were used in America for paint products in 1935; Sherman Williams Paint Co. testimony before Congress against the 1937 Marijuana Tax Act.

* All schoolbooks were made from hemp or flax paper until the 1880s; Hemp Paper Reconsidered, Jack Frazier, 1974.

* It was LEGAL TO PAY TAXES WITH HEMP in America from 1631 until the early 1800s; LA Times, Aug. 12, 1981.

* REFUSING TO GROW HEMP in America during the 17th and 18th Centuries WAS AGAINST THE LAW! You could be jailed in Virginia for refusing to grow hemp from 1763 to 1769; Hemp in Colonial Virginia, G. M. Herdon.

* George Washington, Thomas Jefferson and other founding fathers GREW HEMP; Washington and Jefferson Diaries. Jefferson smuggled hemp seeds from China to France then to America.

* Benjamin Franklin owned one of the first paper mills in America and it processed hemp. Also, the War of 1812 was fought over hemp. Napoleon wanted to cut off Moscow's export to England; Emperor Wears No Clothes, Jack Herer.

* For thousands of years, 90% of all ships' sails and rope were made from hemp. The word 'canvas' is Dutch for cannabis; Webster's New World Dictionary.

* 80% of all textiles, fabrics, clothes, linen, drapes, bed sheets, etc. were made from hemp until the 1820s with the introduction of the cotton gin.

* The first Bibles, maps, charts, Betsy Ross's flag, the first drafts of the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution were made from hemp; U.S. Government Archives.

* The first crop grown in many states was hemp. 1850 was a peak year for Kentucky producing 40,000 tons. Hemp was the largest cash crop until the 20th Century; State Archives.

* Oldest known records of hemp farming go back 5000 years in China, although hemp industrialization probably goes back to ancient Egypt.

* Rembrants, Gainsboroughs, Van Goghs as well as most early canvas paintings were principally painted on hemp linen.

* In 1916, the U.S. Government predicted that by the 1940s all paper would come from hemp and that no more trees need to be cut down. Government studies report that 1 acre of hemp equals 4.1 acres of trees. Plans were in the works to implement such programs; Department of Agriculture

* Quality paints and varnishes were made from hemp seed oil until 1937. 58,000 tons of hemp seeds were used in America for paint products in 1935; Sherman Williams Paint Co. testimony before Congress against the 1937 Marijuana Tax Act.

Hemp cultivation and production do not harm the environment. The USDA Bulletin #404 concluded that hemp produces 4 times as much pulp with at least 4 to 7 times less pollution. From Popular Mechanics, Feb. 1938:

Andrew Mellon became Hoover's Secretary of the Treasury and Dupont's primary investor. He appointed his future nephew-in-law, Harry J. Anslinger, to head the Federal Bureau of Narcotics and Dangerous Drugs.

Secret meetings were held by these financial tycoons. Hemp was declared dangerous and a threat to their billion dollar enterprises. For their dynasties to remain intact, hemp had to go. These men took an obscure Mexican slang word: 'marihuana' and pushed it into the consciousness of America.

In 1937, Dupont patented the processes to make plastics from oil and coal. Dupont's Annual Report urged stockholders to invest in its new petrochemical division. Synthetics such as plastics, cellophane, celluloid, methanol, nylon, rayon, Dacron, etc., could now be made from oil. Natural hemp industrialization would have ruined over 80% of Dupont's business.

Congress banned hemp because it was said to be the most violence-causing drug known. Anslinger, head of the Drug Commission for 31 years, promoted the idea that marihuana made users act extremely violent.

Our farmers, our industry, our vehicles, and our economy would all benefit greatly from allowing hemp to be used in production.

 

[Darthvoy]

This is, perhaps, the greatest achievement mankind has ever accomplished.

 

[xeemzor]

Originally posted by: Darthvoy
This is, perhaps, the greatest achievement mankind has ever accomplished.

Even better than bread?