World's First Full Test: 2007 Chevrolet Silverado

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foghorn67

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Originally posted by: PricklyPete
Originally posted by: Calin
Originally posted by: Pepsi90919
Originally posted by: funboy42
For prolly around $46K with tax and delivery that damn truck better do more for you then get you from point a to point b and haul stuff ;)
GM and Ford PLEASE bring back the days of the no frills trucks with crank windows, no cruise, or leather seating, ac was 55 and 2 windows down, and a realistic price.

please go back to 1960 where you came from

There is nothing wrong in asking for a simple, inexpensive work truck. I wouldn't want one, but to anyone their own.
My car has no electric options and no AC - next car will have them, hopefully - but a car without AC, power windows, heated mirrors and so on is usable

I don't know what funboy is talking about. They always sell a stripped down, bare bones truck....it is just that nowadays they give you the option of a really "spiced up" truck as well. That's a nice thing.

Stripped down trucks can be found at the fleet sales divisions at dealerships.
 

MrBond

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Originally posted by: funboy42
For prolly around $46K with tax and delivery that damn truck better do more for you then get you from point a to point b and haul stuff ;)
GM and Ford PLEASE bring back the days of the no frills trucks with crank windows, no cruise, or leather seating, ac was 55 and 2 windows down, and a realistic price.
There's a Work Truck trim option that's bare bones equipment. I'm not sure if you can get it on the extended/crew cabs. The 2007 Silverado is hard to price on GMs site, I checked last week and all they had were the crew cab versions online.
 

Mermaidman

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I figured it out:

Where Jules lives, most pick-up drivers DON'T use the vehicles for work, hence they buy the Tundra.
 

swtethan

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Originally posted by: Raduque
Originally posted by: Naustica
Who pays MSRP for anything GM other than for the Z06? 10-12k off American fullsize trucks are like the norm now.

# 367 hp, 375 lb-ft torque
# 10,500-pound tow capacity

Those are some impressive numbers. Would make a perfect work truck and weekend boat tower.

A hundred more HP and 70 more lb-ft then my dad's 01 F150 and it can only tow 2800lb more then my dad's truck? And for about 25k more then he paid for the Ford? .... am I supposed to be impressed?


And while I hate to validate Jules' claims..... I'm a call center guy, and I drive my dad's truck (while he's in AK) and am seriously considering an 06 F150 of my own. I rarely, if ever, put anything in the bed. :(

2800 lbs is another sports car.

 

Raduque

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Originally posted by: swtethan
Originally posted by: Raduque
Originally posted by: Naustica
Who pays MSRP for anything GM other than for the Z06? 10-12k off American fullsize trucks are like the norm now.

# 367 hp, 375 lb-ft torque
# 10,500-pound tow capacity

Those are some impressive numbers. Would make a perfect work truck and weekend boat tower.

A hundred more HP and 70 more lb-ft then my dad's 01 F150 and it can only tow 2800lb more then my dad's truck? And for about 25k more then he paid for the Ford? .... am I supposed to be impressed?


And while I hate to validate Jules' claims..... I'm a call center guy, and I drive my dad's truck (while he's in AK) and am seriously considering an 06 F150 of my own. I rarely, if ever, put anything in the bed. :(

2800 lbs is another sports car.

Yea, but so is the $25k price difference :)
 

swtethan

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Originally posted by: Raduque
Originally posted by: swtethan
Originally posted by: Raduque
Originally posted by: Naustica
Who pays MSRP for anything GM other than for the Z06? 10-12k off American fullsize trucks are like the norm now.

# 367 hp, 375 lb-ft torque
# 10,500-pound tow capacity

Those are some impressive numbers. Would make a perfect work truck and weekend boat tower.

A hundred more HP and 70 more lb-ft then my dad's 01 F150 and it can only tow 2800lb more then my dad's truck? And for about 25k more then he paid for the Ford? .... am I supposed to be impressed?


And while I hate to validate Jules' claims..... I'm a call center guy, and I drive my dad's truck (while he's in AK) and am seriously considering an 06 F150 of my own. I rarely, if ever, put anything in the bed. :(

2800 lbs is another sports car.

Yea, but so is the $25k price difference :)

$24,345 BASE for the XLT f150
$32,020 BASE for FX4
$37,300 for the King Ranch BASE
yeah...i see a $25,000 difference.... and you haven't put in options yet...
 

TheSlamma

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$42,000 for a 1/2 ton!??!!

I'm calling the cops every time I see one on the road and reporting Rape victim.
 

PricklyPete

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Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Originally posted by: SVT Cobra
Wow and I thought your average asian fanboy was bad, Jules you've taken it to another level. ;) :p


While I hate Ford over Chevy, I will admit that Ford makes a much better pickup than the Silverado.


And, Jules most pickup owners do use it for a work truck.

Funny, I'd say at least 50% of the trucks I see around here have some guy with a white shirt and tie on behind the wheel. I wonder what they're working on...

That's because you live on the Yuppie coast. Try the rural areas/construction sites where most of these trucks are sold. My fiance's dad runs a farm and has three generations of Chevy/GM trucks...all of them still run great and work flawlessly as work vehicles. They do all kinds of real work.
 

Ktulu

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Originally posted by: TheSlamma
$42,000 for a 1/2 ton!??!!

I'm calling the cops every time I see one on the road and reporting Rape victim.

You're kidding me right, you actually believe that the this is the only price for a Silverado. When it is fully rolled out, the Silverado will have over 20 configurations ranging from the mid-low 20k's to over 40k's.

Ignorance at it's best.:roll:
 

swtethan

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Originally posted by: Ktulu
Originally posted by: TheSlamma
$42,000 for a 1/2 ton!??!!

I'm calling the cops every time I see one on the road and reporting Rape victim.

You're kidding me right, you actually believe that the this is the only price for a Silverado. When it is fully rolled out, the Silverado will have over 20 configurations ranging from the mid-low 20k's to over 40k's.

Ignorance at it's best.:roll:

im looking at their website now and it says 27k-36k
pretty good for a crewcab
 

AdamK47

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Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Originally posted by: SVT Cobra
Wow and I thought your average asian fanboy was bad, Jules you've taken it to another level. ;) :p


While I hate Ford over Chevy, I will admit that Ford makes a much better pickup than the Silverado.


And, Jules most pickup owners do use it for a work truck.

Funny, I'd say at least 50% of the trucks I see around here have some guy with a white shirt and tie on behind the wheel. I wonder what they're working on...

You live in Southern California. That's all that needs to be said.
 

Raduque

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Aug 22, 2004
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Originally posted by: swtethan
Originally posted by: Raduque

Yea, but so is the $25k price difference :)

$24,345 BASE for the XLT f150
$32,020 BASE for FX4
$37,300 for the King Ranch BASE
yeah...i see a $25,000 difference.... and you haven't put in options yet...

I was comparing the 07 Silverado (what should be a FAR more capable truck, especially for the price) to my dad's 2001 F150 Ext Cab XLT 4x4 w/7700lb towing package and 4.6l V8. He paid, I believe, 15k for it. Ex fleet vehicle in excellent condition with about 40k miles.
 

funboy6942

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Originally posted by: PricklyPete
Originally posted by: Calin
Originally posted by: Pepsi90919
Originally posted by: funboy42
For prolly around $46K with tax and delivery that damn truck better do more for you then get you from point a to point b and haul stuff ;)
GM and Ford PLEASE bring back the days of the no frills trucks with crank windows, no cruise, or leather seating, ac was 55 and 2 windows down, and a realistic price.

please go back to 1960 where you came from

There is nothing wrong in asking for a simple, inexpensive work truck. I wouldn't want one, but to anyone their own.
My car has no electric options and no AC - next car will have them, hopefully - but a car without AC, power windows, heated mirrors and so on is usable

I don't know what funboy is talking about. They always sell a stripped down, bare bones truck....it is just that nowadays they give you the option of a really "spiced up" truck as well. That's a nice thing.

Well I guess my point should of been a little more clear. Striped down with a rubber floor and a price tag of under $10K or way under $10K. Were talking sheet metal, some glass, and you clean the insides and out with a damn hose. A strip down NEW is almost 20K for what? A v6 1/2 ton and some sheet metal and air bags. I mean come on. Things tend to get cheaper as times goes on when things are built and updated. Cars and trucks on the other hand do not. Just stop and think about a stripped down truck. nothing fancy at all. Some sheet metal, an engine, diff, manual tranny, some glass, a cheap computer system to run the injection and emissions, and a air bag. And maybe decent metal for a frame. Some $50 rims and $200 tires. Simulated rubber seats and floor and a fm radio with one speaker. I ask you where is the $20K in all of that. The parts are put together like a model and every thing is mass produced and costs pennies each.

Seriously its out of controlled spending, out of control bonuses and pay for the higher ups, and everything is outsourced and made as cheaply as it can be. I highly doubt for one second in a striped down no frills, manual tranny, no ac, no cruise, bench seat, manual windows truck with no radio there is more then $3000 in parts total. Its CEO pay/bonuses, crazy stupid spending, federal hands in the cookie jar, high union wages and pension that has it way up there. Get rid of the air bags, the computer system, slap back in a carb for the damn things are getting the same fvcking MPG it has been or worse and its got more bells and whistles on it to break then ever before.

Strip that motherfvcker down to THE bare minimum with a straight 6 2brl carb, manual tranny, and give me a truck I can throw crap in, at, on top, the sides, jump, flip, take my hose and clean it in and out for $8k and make me one happy camper. I wont care if the paint peals off and I see primer like the trucks of the 80 and 90's did. I want down to earth prices and something I can use what I paid to use it for. And keep making these yuppy getters that people would be afraid to park it at the grocery store or put a tooth pick in the bed for fear it will get damaged or scractched and the resale value will go down. Give me one I can beat the fvck out of and thow it away when Im done and use it for what I want because I didnt pay 1/4 of my morgage to get it and it cost more per month then my morgage to drive! Dont give me a striped down version and tell me its will still cost $20K I want $10k or better. I dont like to be pissed on and told its just rain :disgust:. Tell the fvcks ontop to for once to REALLY give a fvck about the employees and not THEIR pay checks. Take a gosh damn pay cut and save some families jobs! SHOW YOU CARE and others will follow! The Unions will see this and they wont bitch if they see EVERYONE is in it for the best of the company, and not the higher ups pockets. Stop making gas guzzling vehicles. America wants cars that are no frills, dependable, and wont break the bank. Stop shoveling over priced plastic out the door.

Damnit Ford and Chevy (sorry Fvck Dodge your sh!t sucks) you better start taking you heads out of your asses and take a damn good look at where your going and what the american people want. I just cant see how some lousy model pieces come off the line stripped down for almost $20K. FOR SHAME and no wonder your losing more and more americans to your products. You make a damn good product that does last, your just asking to much for plastic and bloated crap when the Japs can polish a turd better, make it smell better, and look prettier for less. You all got a bad rep in the 80's and 90s with crap cars and trucks, and now a bad rep with good cars that are over priced and attacking your employees blaiming them for high prices, plus you shut factories down, and lay employees off, without the big guys taking pay cuts themselves. We see this. Stop it, show America it has american automobiles and fatctories they can be proud of again! Make us believe!

ok rant over :D
 

preslove

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I live in a midsize city with a "southern" attitude. Over half the people driving full size trucks obviously don't use them for work or hauling. Many are highschool or college kids. I was talking to two girls that went to highschool here and they talked about how at their high school, one's popularity was determined by the size of their truck. I'd say that this is true in most southern urban areas, but not rural.
 

Excelsior

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Originally posted by: PricklyPete
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Originally posted by: SVT Cobra
Wow and I thought your average asian fanboy was bad, Jules you've taken it to another level. ;) :p


While I hate Ford over Chevy, I will admit that Ford makes a much better pickup than the Silverado.


And, Jules most pickup owners do use it for a work truck.

Funny, I'd say at least 50% of the trucks I see around here have some guy with a white shirt and tie on behind the wheel. I wonder what they're working on...

That's because you live on the Yuppie coast. Try the rural areas/construction sites where most of these trucks are sold. My fiance's dad runs a farm and has three generations of Chevy/GM trucks...all of them still run great and work flawlessly as work vehicles. They do all kinds of real work.

No kidding. Around here, most of the trucks are used for work..daily.
 

JulesMaximus

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Originally posted by: Mermaidman
I figured it out:

Where Jules lives, most pick-up drivers DON'T use the vehicles for work, hence they buy the Tundra.

I see plenty of Toyota work trucks around here. Probably as many Toyota work trucks as Chevy/Ford/Dodge work trucks anyway. I just see waaaay more grocery getter pickup trucks...you know, the ones with the matching painted bed cover, shiny chrome wheels, 4 doors and fold down DVD screens.

You guys keep kidding yourselves that the majority of pickups sold are being used as work vehicles. Pickup truck sales account for what percentage of vehicle sales in this country? 40%? 50%??? (although, that's changed quite a bit in the last year or so) Go back 20 years and they accounted for about 15-20% if that. You're honestly going to sit there and tell me that all of a sudden a rather large percentage of Americans went and became blue collar workers or suddenly decided to go and become farmers because that's so lucrative? Yeah right...you guys really believe the crap you're shoveling? :roll:

In 2001 pickup truck sales accounted for more than half the total vehicle sales in this country. That's a pretty large percentage...there's no way that even 1/4 of them are using it as a work vehicle. No freaking way.
 

DainBramaged

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Of course, before we got that far we had to decide which version to get. It's not an easy task as the 2007 Silverado serves up a redneck Christmas list of options. There are three cab styles, three bed lengths, three trim levels, five suspensions and seven engines to choose from.

That made me LOL
 

JulesMaximus

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Look, I'll give you this...In other parts of the country maybe a majority of people who buy pickup trucks buy them for work (quite a few probably buy them for play though) but here in SoCal the majority buy them for play. New truck sales as work vehicles here probably account for a fairly small percentage of total vehicle sales.
 

Squisher

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Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Look, I'll give you this...In other parts of the country maybe a majority of people who buy pickup trucks buy them for work (quite a few probably buy them for play though) but here in SoCal the majority buy them for play. New truck sales as work vehicles here probably account for a fairly small percentage of total vehicle sales.

Aww Jules, you're so cute when you capitulate. :heart:

Pretty soon you'll be driving a domestic.
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JulesMaximus

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Originally posted by: Squisher
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Look, I'll give you this...In other parts of the country maybe a majority of people who buy pickup trucks buy them for work (quite a few probably buy them for play though) but here in SoCal the majority buy them for play. New truck sales as work vehicles here probably account for a fairly small percentage of total vehicle sales.

Aww Jules, you're so cute when you capitulate. :heart:

Pretty soon you'll be driving a domestic.
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I'm not capitulating. Just acknowledging that California makes up a huge percentage of vehicle sales nationwide. California is the 6th largest economy in the entire world after all. ;)

Certainly enough to skew the percentages and what I may see here probably isn't representative of the puny figures of the rest of the country.

I'm trying to throw you a freaking bone here. :lips: