World's fastest gaming CPU - Broadwell with Iris Pro

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Sweepr

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When, if ever, will we see a Skylake DT chip with the eDRAM?

LGA1151 Skylake GT4e, next year.

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LTC8K6

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LGA1151 Skylake GT4e, next year.

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I don't see any DT Skylake with 128mb of eDram there.

I see a low watt one with 64mb.

But no 91W full house GT4e chip.

I don't see a desktop chip that looks like it would outrun the 5775C in gaming.
 

Sweepr

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Oh my, a U processor line with GT3 graphics?

Iris Pro GT3e will hit 15W 'U' processors later this year with Skylake. This is the Kabylake successor. :)

I don't see any DT Skylake with 128mb of eDram there.

I see a low watt one with 64mb.

But no 91W full house GT4e chip.

I don't see a desktop chip that looks like it would outrun the 5775C in gaming.

Core i7 5775C is also 65W. Intel says Skylake GT4e delivers 50% better score @ 3DMark 11 than Broadwell GT3e at similar TDP (45W vs 47W). This was leaked by mikk in the Skylake thread.

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Skylake-U GT3e 64MB eDRAM BGA (Ultrabooks and Convertibles) - H2/2015
Skylake-S GT4e 64MB eDRAM (Desktops - Broadwell-K Successor) LGA - 2016
Skylake-H GT4e 128MB BGA (Notebooks, Xeon E3) - Q4/2015-Q1/2016
Kabylake-U GT3e 64MB eDRAM (Ultrabooks and Convertibles) BGA - 2016
Kabylake-H GT4e 128+128MB (Notebooks, Xeon E3?) BGA? - 2016

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vissarix

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I've been waiting for Crystalwell on the desktop for a long time. I've been wanting to rid my system of AMD/NV garbage like it's 2001 all over again and we said goodbye to sound cards. For 1080P gaming, Iris Pro is more than fine for my needs unless I decide to build for VR. I think soon, many more people will be thinking the same thing.

Especially since the Broadwell 5775C is the fastest CPU for dGPUs as well. This is how Nvidia in particular will go down, as everyone buys these Iris Pro desktop CPUs due to the L4 cache advantages- and they stay for the surprisingly decent 1080P performance.

I've also been wanting to see how that 128MB would affect dGPUs and now we know.
http://techreport.com/review/28751/intel-core-i7-6700k-skylake-processor-reviewed/14

"The gaming plot tells a similar story, but here, the 6700K is in the running for the fastest gaming CPU on the planet—and it would've won, too, if it weren't for the pesky Broadwell 5775C and its magic L4 cache. The 6700K improves on the 4790K by a tad, but the 5775C upstages it with a freakish string of gaming performance wins, even though its prevailing clock speed is ~500MHz lower."

Overclock a 5775C to 4ghz, stand back, and watch out. It'll be a monster.

Bring on AMD's HBM APUs. Both that and these desktop Iris Pros are going to change the game bigtime. Big problems for Nvidia ahead. Everyone from guys like me who want to use an iGPU, to those who want the ultimate gaming rig will be buying Iris Pros and then adding on a 980Ti/FuryX. Eating up a lot of low to midrange sales with Iris Pro.

I'm going to verify that the 5775C is receiving DX12/Vulkan drivers, see what GT4e has in store over the 5775C- then ordering one of these.

man wth your talking about? broadwell its slower vs the 6700k, dont look at anandtech review which is terribad...they are showing a g3258 getting more frames in one particular game vs a 4790k which is the same core with more cache clocked higher...meaning its simply impossible.

every other review is showing the 6700k getting better performance vs the rest...


also gaming on a iris gpu? really? getting like 30fps on 720p medium settings on demanding games must be so cool
 

LTC8K6

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Intel says Skylake GT4e delivers 50% better score @ 3DMark 11 than Broadwell GT3e at similar TDP (45W vs 47W). This was leaked by mikk in the Skylake thread.

Which GT4e version is 50% faster?

The one with 128mb of eDRAM?

The one with 128+128mb of eDRAM?

The one with only 64mb of eDRAm ay not perform that well, and that looks like the DT chip we would get.

I think it's a moot point though, because I think HD530 already does very well when it has fast ram to work with, so I think the 6700K already has the 5775C covered.
 

crashtech

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Are these CPUs ever going to be available from US e-tailers? I can buy an i5-6600K right now, but the 5675C and 5775C are not even listed for preorder. Nobody in the US has them to my knowledge.
 

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Now that skylake has been launched and its a bit of a disappointment for me the i7-5775C is looking like a good upgrade over my 4690K. That's assuming the price comes back down when its available in the US again.
 

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Available again? It never has, to my knowledge. All the 9-series mobo owners in the US who based their purchasing decision on Broadwell compatibility are being flipped the bird by Intel.
 

ctk1981

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Available again? It never has, to my knowledge. All the 9-series mobo owners in the US who based their purchasing decision on Broadwell compatibility are being flipped the bird by Intel.

You could very well be right. I never gave the broadwell a second look until skylake was basically meh. Now I'm interested in the broadwell part. Hopefully with a little patience it will be here before the end of the year. If not, I'll keep flogging this i5 until the next big....umm..meh?
 

LTC8K6

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Skylake will probably stretch it's legs past Broadwell's small lead as soon as we see Skylake with Crystal Well.

Broadwell's lead over Skylake in gaming isn't that much, even though it is impressive. It's impressive when you look at clock speeds.

I think Skylake with Crystal Well is going to be very impressive.

Besides, it looks like Broadwell is a no-show for us.
 

MiddleOfTheRoad

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Exactly, I have been arguing this with the AMD APU crowd forever, and the same argument goes for intel. At least with intel you get state of the art CPU performance as well, but at a much higher cost.

Yeah, but the AMD crowd is dropping $150 on the A10 7850K -- the Intel crowd has to cough up around $375 for the 5775c which is only marginally faster than the A10. The A10 makes a lot of sense for a cheap gaming build.... The Intel.... well, zero incentive at the current price point IMO. For $375, better to go with an i5 and a dedicated GPU without question.
 

LTC8K6

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There is a 5675C with IP6200 graphics. Should be about $250 if we ever get to see it.

I like having the igp as a backup. I can use it in case of video card failure. I can remove the video card to use to test another machine, and still be able to use the main machine.

I have no problem paying the extra money for the intel igp as a backup graphics card.

To me, it makes sense to have an igp and a dgp.

And with DX12, we may be able to use those igps to help out our dedicated cards.
 

therealnickdanger

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No one read what I said in my OP or checked my link.

LOL I noticed that.

This is totally a guess, but I'm guessing that Intel will continue to ride this nostalgia train and soon release the X6800. Unlocked Skylake + GT4e and it will blow the hinges off the 6700K. As others have stated repeatedly, Crystalwell is basically one giant L4, so in situations where that matters any CPU with it is going to simply walk away from the rest of the pack. If DX12 ends up being the savior we expect, this could make a massive difference.
 
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