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World oil supplies are set to run out faster than expected, warn scientists

JulesMaximus

No Lifer
Scientists challenge major review of global reserves and warn that supplies will start to run out in four years' time
By Daniel Howden
Published: 14 June 2007
Scientists have criticised a major review of the world's remaining oil reserves, warning that the end of oil is coming sooner than governments and oil companies are prepared to admit.

BP's Statistical Review of World Energy, published yesterday, appears to show that the world still has enough "proven" reserves to provide 40 years of consumption at current rates. The assessment, based on officially reported figures, has once again pushed back the estimate of when the world will run dry.

However, scientists led by the London-based Oil Depletion Analysis Centre, say that global production of oil is set to peak in the next four years before entering a steepening decline which will have massive consequences for the world economy and the way that we live our lives.

According to "peak oil" theory our consumption of oil will catch, then outstrip our discovery of new reserves and we will begin to deplete known reserves.

Colin Campbell, the head of the depletion centre, said: "It's quite a simple theory and one that any beer drinker understands. The glass starts full and ends empty and the faster you drink it the quicker it's gone."

Dr Campbell, is a former chief geologist and vice-president at a string of oil majors including BP, Shell, Fina, Exxon and ChevronTexaco. He explains that the peak of regular oil - the cheap and easy to extract stuff - has already come and gone in 2005. Even when you factor in the more difficult to extract heavy oil, deep sea reserves, polar regions and liquid taken from gas, the peak will come as soon as 2011, he says.

This scenario is flatly denied by BP, whose chief economist Peter Davies has dismissed the arguments of "peak oil" theorists.

"We don't believe there is an absolute resource constraint. When peak oil comes, it is just as likely to come from consumption peaking, perhaps because of climate change policies as from production peaking."

In recent years the once-considerable gap between demand and supply has narrowed. Last year that gap all but disappeared. The consequences of a shortfall would be immense. If consumption begins to exceed production by even the smallest amount, the price of oil could soar above $100 a barrel. A global recession would follow.

Jeremy Legget, like Dr Campbell, is a geologist-turned conservationist whose book Half Gone: Oil, Gas, Hot Air and the Global Energy Crisis brought " peak oil" theory to a wider audience. He compares industry and government reluctance to face up to the impending end of oil, to climate change denial.

"It reminds me of the way no one would listen for years to scientists warning about global warming," he says. "We were predicting things pretty much exactly as they have played out. Then as now we were wondering what it would take to get people to listen."

In 1999, Britain's oil reserves in the North Sea peaked, but for two years after this became apparent, Mr Leggert claims, it was heresy for anyone in official circles to say so. "Not meeting demand is not an option. In fact, it is an act of treason," he says.

One thing most oil analysts agree on is that depletion of oil fields follows a predictable bell curve. This has not changed since the Shell geologist M King Hubbert made a mathematical model in 1956 to predict what would happen to US petroleum production. The Hubbert Curveshows that at the beginning production from any oil field rises sharply, then reaches a plateau before falling into a terminal decline. His prediction that US production would peak in 1969 was ridiculed by those who claimed it could increase indefinitely. In the event it peaked in 1970 and has been in decline ever since.

In the 1970s Chris Skrebowski was a long-term planner for BP. Today he edits the Petroleum Review and is one of a growing number of industry insiders converting to peak theory. "I was extremely sceptical to start with," he now admits. "We have enough capacity coming online for the next two-and-a-half years. After that the situation deteriorates."

What no one, not even BP, disagrees with is that demand is surging. The rapid growth of China and India matched with the developed world's dependence on oil, mean that a lot more oil will have to come from somewhere. BP's review shows that world demand for oil has grown faster in the past five years than in the second half of the 1990s. Today we consume an average of 85 million barrels daily. According to the most conservative estimates from the International Energy Agency that figure will rise to 113 million barrels by 2030.

Two-thirds of the world's oil reserves lie in the Middle East and increasing demand will have to be met with massive increases in supply from this region.

BP's Statistical Review is the most widely used estimate of world oil reserves but as Dr Campbell points out it is only a summary of highly political estimates supplied by governments and oil companies.

As Dr Campbell explains: "When I was the boss of an oil company I would never tell the truth. It's not part of the game."

A survey of the four countries with the biggest reported reserves - Saudi Arabia, Iran, Iraq and Kuwait - reveals major concerns. In Kuwait last year, a journalist found documents suggesting the country's real reserves were half of what was reported. Iran this year became the first major oil producer to introduce oil rationing - an indication of the administration's view on which way oil reserves are going.

Sadad al-Huseini knows more about Saudi Arabia's oil reserves than perhaps anyone else. He retired as chief executive of the kingdom's oil corporation two years ago, and his view on how much Saudi production can be increased is sobering. "The problem is that you go from 79 million barrels a day in 2002 to 84.5 million in 2004. You're leaping by two to three million [barrels a day]" each year, he told The New York Times. "That's like a whole new Saudi Arabia every couple of years. It can't be done indefinitely."

The importance of black gold

* A reduction of as little as 10 to 15 per cent could cripple oil-dependent industrial economies. In the 1970s, a reduction of just 5 per cent caused a price increase of more than 400 per cent.

* Most farming equipment is either built in oil-powered plants or uses diesel as fuel. Nearly all pesticides and many fertilisers are made from oil.

* Most plastics, used in everything from computers and mobile phones to pipelines, clothing and carpets, are made from oil-based substances.

* Manufacturing requires huge amounts of fossil fuels. The construction of a single car in the US requires, on average, at least 20 barrels of oil.

* Most renewable energy equipment requires large amounts of oil to produce.

* Metal production - particularly aluminium - cosmetics, hair dye, ink and many common painkillers all rely on oil.

Alternative sources of power

Coal

There are still an estimated 909 billion tonnes of proven coal reserves worldwide, enough to last at least 155 years. But coal is a fossil fuel and a dirty energy source that will only add to global warming.

Natural gas

The natural gas fields in Siberia, Alaska and the Middle East should last 20 years longer than the world's oil reserves but, although cleaner than oil, natural gas is still a fossil fuel that emits pollutants. It is also expensive to extract and transport as it has to be liquefied.

Hydrogen fuel cells

Hydrogen fuel cells would provide us with a permanent, renewable, clean energy source as they combine hydrogen and oxygen chemically to produce electricity, water and heat. The difficulty, however, is that there isn't enough hydrogen to go round and the few clean ways of producing it are expensive.

Biofuels

Ethanol from corn and maize has become a popular alternative to oil. However, studies suggest ethanol production has a negative effect on energy investment and the environment because of the space required to grow what we need.

Renewable energy

Oil-dependent nations are turning to renewable energy sources such as hydroelectric, solar and wind power to provide an alternative to oil but the likelihood of renewable sources providing enough energy is slim.

Nuclear

Fears of the world's uranium supply running out have been allayed by improved reactors and the possibility of using thorium as a nuclear fuel. But an increase in the number of reactors across the globe would increase the chance of a disaster and the risk of dangerous substances getting into the hands of terrorists.

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I'm not sure about the credibility of the "Oil Depletion Analysis Centre" but it is pretty sobering if it turns out to be true.

I really don't think we are doing near enough research into alternative energy sources in this country. God knows we aren't doing anything to curb our thirst for oil...
 
I swear, throw out the term "scientist", and we are supposed to believe that some anonymous dude in a lab coat has knowlege that trumps everything else. I'm fairly sure those invested in the oil business know alot more about oil reserves that these "scientists". Also, they've already thrown this headline out too many times by now to be effective anymore.

Later reads in said article that he was formerly a vice president in the oil business....*backs out of thread*
 
I fail to see how it isn't inevitable that oil will run out, it's just a matter of how soon. And as far as trusting those in the oil business, don't you think it's in their best interest to accelerate the depletion of a product that increases in value proportional to it's increase in scarcity? A little like tending your herd of sheep with a pack of wild dogs 🙂
 
who knows when the world oil supply will run out, could be today, could be tomorrow, could run out 1 year from now, 20 years. Who knows. Any body guess is good as mine.

There still some believers out there, that think mother earth is constantly creating a nice oil supply everyday. Had some run in with people over on my local newspaper forum about that today. But anyways, our nation does need to start getting more involve in building alternative energy sources. Why can't new houses being built today, have some kind of alternative energy source built into it. In areas were possible, build houses that use solar panels to provide some kind of energy for heating and electricity. Sorry for going off topic a little.
 
Originally posted by: JulesMaximusI'm not sure about the credibility of the "Oil Depletion Analysis Centre" but it is pretty sobering if it turns out to be true.

I really don't think we are doing near enough research into alternative energy sources in this country. God knows we aren't doing anything to curb our thirst for oil...

I am beginning to think these guys are going out of their way to look like fools.

I mean, last week it was "3 times worse than before" and this week we are going to start running out of oil in 4 years" Whats next week? A tsnuami is going to wipe out SF if we don't take cars off the roads in CA?
 
Run RUN FOR THE HILLS!

I remember them talking about this 20 years ago and how we are down to our last 20-30 years. Now we are down to our last 40?

Believe it when I see it.

 
Originally posted by: jjzelinski
I fail to see how it isn't inevitable that oil will run out, it's just a matter of how soon. And as far as trusting those in the oil business, don't you think it's in their best interest to accelerate the depletion of a product that increases in value proportional to it's increase in scarcity? A little like tending your herd of sheep with a pack of wild dogs 🙂

Yeah, that is what the oil business wants. An acceleration of their primary products depletion lol

Where do you people come up with this crap?

 
Originally posted by: jjzelinski
I fail to see how it isn't inevitable that oil will run out, it's just a matter of how soon. And as far as trusting those in the oil business, don't you think it's in their best interest to accelerate the depletion of a product that increases in value proportional to it's increase in scarcity? A little like tending your herd of sheep with a pack of wild dogs 🙂

Actually its best for them to produce slower than peak capacity because draining a oil well very fast will increase the number of oil wells needed to get all oil out of a field, probably because it takes time for the oil to seep through the rock and reach the well. Drilling more wells is expensive.

 
Originally posted by: CyberDuck
Originally posted by: jjzelinski
I fail to see how it isn't inevitable that oil will run out, it's just a matter of how soon. And as far as trusting those in the oil business, don't you think it's in their best interest to accelerate the depletion of a product that increases in value proportional to it's increase in scarcity? A little like tending your herd of sheep with a pack of wild dogs 🙂

Actually its best for them to produce slower than peak capacity because draining a oil well very fast will increase the number of oil wells needed to get all oil out of a field, probably because it takes time for the oil to seep through the rock and reach the well. Drilling more wells is expensive.


uh, go look at what they use water for when drilling for oil .


wells are too expensive... .just pump water downt here and the oil will be forced out
 
Originally posted by: Genx87
I remember them talking about this 20 years ago and how we are down to our last 20-30 years. Now we are down to our last 40?

Believe it when I see it.

Why does refinement of a position automatically negate it with righties? Its called probabilistic inference. Who exactly do you listen to when it comes to new information? You guys are seriously confused folk...

Originally posted by: Mxylplyx
I swear, throw out the term "scientist", and we are supposed to believe that some anonymous dude in a lab coat has knowlege that trumps everything else.

How did i know this would come from a righty? I read the title and KNEW right away that some righty would post this. :roll:
 
Originally posted by: homercles337
Originally posted by: Genx87
I remember them talking about this 20 years ago and how we are down to our last 20-30 years. Now we are down to our last 40?

Believe it when I see it.

Why does refinement of a position automatically negate it with righties? Its called probabilistic inference. Who exactly do you listen to when it comes to new information? You guys are seriously confused folk...

Refinement by 40 years? What is it about lefties they open their mouth as big as possible for the load that is being shoved down it? Then ask for more?
 
Originally posted by: jjzelinski
.... don't you think it's in their best interest to accelerate the depletion of a product that increases in value proportional to it's increase in scarcity?....

If they followed your reasoning, the oil companies would be ones claiming that we're running out faster than everyone else says.

Oil company say 40 years.

Scientists say 4 yrs.

Should be reversed following your logic.

Fern
 
I'm pretty sure the Religious Right will see to it we run out of scientists before we run out of oil.
 
Originally posted by: Shivetya

uh, go look at what they use water for when drilling for oil .


wells are too expensive... .just pump water downt here and the oil will be forced out

Yes, you can do that, you can even use CO2 from Natural gas or other source. But to inject water or something else you have to drill an injection well and set up a lot of expensive equipment. So, for any given price of oil there is an optimum number of wells for a field, and thus an optimum output rate from the field.

http://www.peteng.com/jmm/wno01.html




 
Originally posted by: jjzelinski
I fail to see how it isn't inevitable that oil will run out, it's just a matter of how soon. And as far as trusting those in the oil business, don't you think it's in their best interest to accelerate the depletion of a product that increases in value proportional to it's increase in scarcity? A little like tending your herd of sheep with a pack of wild dogs 🙂

I might agree it's inevitable that on our current course we will be using more oil than we can pump from the ground. However, running out of oil presumes it's a fixed asset (yea yea, dead dinasours....) and not a biological process aka Gold's theory.
 
Originally posted by: Fern
Originally posted by: jjzelinski
.... don't you think it's in their best interest to accelerate the depletion of a product that increases in value proportional to it's increase in scarcity?....

If they followed your reasoning, the oil companies would be ones claiming that we're running out faster than everyone else says.

Oil company say 40 years.

Scientists say 4 yrs.

Should be reversed following your logic.

Fern

Reading the article and applying common sense, I don't think anyone is saying we'll have no oil in 4 years, but rather demand will exceed production capacity. There will never come a point in time where there is NO oil, but there will come a time when the price for it exceeds common sense for mass energy purposes. People tend to forget that everything on earth is finite. There will be a chain reaction from this development :

(1)- Demand exceeds supply, prices increase rapidly.
(2)- Consumption will subside somewhat, as there (a)- won't be enough oil produced to match normal desired usage, and (b)- the economically weaker consumers/buyers won't be able to buy as much.
(3)- Shale/rock oil will become profitable to extract when prices exceed $150-$200/barrel. Even so, the extraction process is horrendously expensive and destructive, as the oil is not in a liquid access form, but soaked into rock and shale. Basically you have to strip mine the ground, grind up the contents, and separate the oil from the rock and waste.
(4)- As prices of oil cause gas prices to double, triple, quadruple, probably up to $50/gallon or more as the squeeze hits, massive political and market force will result in reasonable alternative fuel sources. Unfortunately :
(5)- Oil will still be necessary for all types of plastics & medical equipment, and prices on these items will increase by staggering amounts.

This is not a political post, as the same thing would likely happen under any administration in a world dominated by free market ideals. People will take the path of least resistance towards greatest immediate benefit/profit EVERY time, the future be damned. Sadly, there will probably be some very dark days ahead until we are finally able to leave behind the fossil fuel age.

P.S. - Invest in oil companies NOW NOW NOW, because if you thought profits were good the last couple of years, just wait 🙂
 
Originally posted by: Arkaign
P.S. - Invest in oil companies NOW NOW NOW, because if you thought profits were good the last couple of years, just wait 🙂

I can agree with that one 🙂 (At the moment im invested in Iron ore exploration, but I will probably diversify into oil companies in the near future.)

But, back to topic, here is an interresting site: Peak Oil Update - June 2007: Production Forecasts and EIA Oil Production Numbers

Executive Summary:
Monthly production records are unchanged except for NGPL:
All Liquids: the peak is still July 2006 at 85.43 mbpd, the year to date average production in 2007 (2 months) is 84.26 mbpd, up 0.2 mbpd from 2006.
Crude Oil + NGL: the peak date remains May 2005 at 82.08 mbpd, the year to date average production for 2007 (2 months) is 81.24 mbpd, down 0.06 mbpd from 2006.
Crude Oil + Condensate: the peak date remains May 2005 at 74.15 mbpd, the year to date average production for 2007 (2 months) is 73.09 mbpd, down 0.25 mbpd from 2006.
NGPL: the peak date is now February 2007 at 8.24 mbpd, the year to date average production for 2007 (2 months) is 8.15 mbpd, up 0.19 mbpd from 2006.
Decline in crude oil + condensate continues: February 2007 estimate for crude oil + condensate is 73.35 mbpd compared to 73.47 mbpd one year ago.
New forecasts added: Projections from Frederik Robelius and the Hybrid Shock Model.
Average forecast: the average forecast for crude oil + NGL based on 12 different projections is showing a kind of production plateau around 83 +/- 4 mbpd with a decline after 2010 +/- 1 year.

So, production may already have peaked almost a year ago, time will show.


 
Originally posted by: Genx87
Run RUN FOR THE HILLS!

I remember them talking about this 20 years ago and how we are down to our last 20-30 years. Now we are down to our last 40?

Believe it when I see it.

By the time you see it it's going to be too late.
 
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Originally posted by: Genx87
Run RUN FOR THE HILLS!

I remember them talking about this 20 years ago and how we are down to our last 20-30 years. Now we are down to our last 40?

Believe it when I see it.

By the time you see it it's going to be too late.

Trust me, the markets will let us know well before the tap runs dry.
 
Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

By the time you see it it's going to be too late.

Trust me, the markets will let us know well before the tap runs dry.

The markets have doubled the price the last few years, that might be a hint?

But remember that Opec can't let the prices go totally wild without destroying the markets for their oil, so they have to pretend they have control even if they don't.
 
Originally posted by: CyberDuck
Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

By the time you see it it's going to be too late.

Trust me, the markets will let us know well before the tap runs dry.

The markets have doubled the price the last few years, that might be a hint?

But remember that Opec can't let the prices go totally wild without destroying the markets for their oil, so they have to pretend they have control even if they don't.

We are just nearing record highs on an inflationary adjusted measure from 30 years ago.
So no, we havent reached that point yet. I am talking about the price of oil at a point alternatives become a feasible reality.

OPEC doesnt have control. If the price goes through the roof and people stop buying, well OPEC cant sell to people who arent buying.

 
Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: CyberDuck
Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

By the time you see it it's going to be too late.

Trust me, the markets will let us know well before the tap runs dry.

The markets have doubled the price the last few years, that might be a hint?

But remember that Opec can't let the prices go totally wild without destroying the markets for their oil, so they have to pretend they have control even if they don't.

We are just nearing record highs on an inflationary adjusted measure from 30 years ago.
So no, we havent reached that point yet. I am talking about the price of oil at a point alternatives become a feasible reality.

OPEC doesnt have control. If the price goes through the roof and people stop buying, well OPEC cant sell to people who arent buying.

Yes, but 30 years ago the reasons for the high prices was another than now. It was a boycott and blockade from Opec. Now the reasons for the high prices are very stretched supply, and everything points to that it will only get worse. As you say, OPEC can't sell if prices are so high that other options are more affordable, so Opecs worst nightmare is renewable energy sources that can compete with oil. Therefore they (and the large oil companies) will pretend to have enough oil for everyone as long as its even remotely possible that someone will believe them.

 
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