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Smilin

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Mar 4, 2002
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The 40 mans sucked.

Utter pain in the ass. The more people you get together the more chance you'll have a knucklehead. Also the more chance that even experienced, well geared players who are paying attention have an oops. It only takes one oops to screw it all up. 40 mans also allow for slackers. 39 players can make up for 1 weak player (provided they don't flat out wipe you) but in the lesser raids that really can't happen.

40 mans also mean raiding has to be the life focus of at least a decent percentage of the guild.

I would rather play a 10-20 (or an occasional 5) man that is so f'ing insanely difficult that every member has to behave perfectly as an individual and perfectly as the member of a team or you stand 0 chance.

The 20-25 mans I think are a good replacement for the 40s. A small touch of sloppiness is allowed but you don't have to organize a million man march just to make things happen. 40 mans are more like work and no individual gets the chance to stand out and save the day.

Maybe I'm just not hardcore enough but I don't care. Life is more important than WoW.

Oh, and I disagree. WoW is not heading downhill at all. BC was a phenomenal improvement to the game. As far as expansions for any game go this was a winner. Tons of new content and improvements at every turn. WoW is also up to 9 million now. Definately not heading downhill. There have been hardcore nutbags saying that since the beta finished. They continue to be wrong.
 

Aikouka

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Nov 27, 2001
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Well of course some people will think it's going downhill... it's hard to literally satisfy everyone. Blizzard's aim is to do that though, but WoW tries to attract such a large spectrum that accommodating all of them is serious business! Blizzard had the right idea with their Dungeon Set 2, but the problem was Tier 1 and Tier 2 were fairly easy to get, it's just that these people weren't in a raiding guild (as DS2 came out when a lot of people had BWL on farm), so they had to spend a lot of money and time for a set that was mediocre compared to the easy-to-obtain T1 and T2. The only nice thing was that if you did what you were supposed to, the results was guaranteed (i.e getting the item).
 

DannyLove

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Oct 17, 2000
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Originally posted by: Modeps
Originally posted by: DannyLove
40??? LOL
That's nothing. Oh man, I recall these massive hundreds of people storming Sidi or dragon raids or DF back in my DAoC days.... ah memories.

While I cant say I was a part of the Dragon raids, I loved hitting DF with a huge raid. Kinda chaotic but fun all around. :D

back when the dragon was the toughest creature to fight, pre-expansions, they were really really fun.