World Court Favors Germany Over U.S.

[Czar]

Funny how Americans overglorify the US and Europeans overglorify Europe. Both sides have big problems and totaly different ideology.

The World Court cant do anything about this, just rule that Arizona did violate human rights. This is just so that the US will not make same mistakes again.

 

[67gt500]

those of you asking about punishment:

The court's verdict is binding and not subject to appeal, but the World Court has no independent means to enforce compliance. If one side feels the other has failed to live up to a court ruling, it can ask the U.N. Security Council to impose sanctions


I'd like to see this happen. And it wouldn't really surprise me if the UN decided to impose sanctions on the US given recent shinanigans.. also considering Europe's economy more or less Revolves around the US's... wouldn't this be fun to watch.

The UN would just have to find a new source for 22% of its annual revenues.

And I'm somewhat curious as to what they would sanction? Perhaps the billions of aid we give out each year wouldn't be allowed? Or perhaps the debt relief we offer each year wouldn't be allowed? ahahah


And that alliance with Russia anita spoke of (i'm still partially in tears from laughing so hard) would probably be looking better by the day for the E.U.

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[Tauren]

<<BRING IT ON. EUROPE COULD KICK YOUR 'CANDY ASSES' ANY DAY>>

You guys can't even defend your own inalienable rights! Your Governments dole out 'priviledges' to you! We had to bail out Europe when Hitler was kicking your a$$es! Unfortunately we are a very violent culture, you pansies wouldn't stand a chance.

 

[SJ]

Anyone saying Russia would ever join the EU has got to be smoking some high grade crack, Russia is trying to take over Ukraine,(via political means) so it doesn't join the EU. Russia is trying to reform the USSR. Ukraine has 50million people and is one of the largest countries in Europe in many ways. Russia isn't going to join the EU, neither is Ukraine.

If Russia ever returns to its &quot;former glory&quot;, which it could and they are trying, the EU will be in a tight bind. Really Europe should be the ones worrying about China and Russia. IMHO Europe really shouldn't piss off the US, it would be far easier for China and Russia to take over Europe, than it would for them to go to war with the US.

 

[67gt500]

You guys can't even defend your own inalienable rights! Your Governments dole out 'priviledges' to you! We had to bail out Europe when Hitler was kicking your a$$es!

the worst part is that they have gone around over the last 40 years making strategic alliances with countries that nobody has any interest in other than countries like Russia who were and still are the enemy... countries like Lithuania. And they've done this in part with US cooperation which means that both the US and Europe have obligated US forces to protect dozens of countries that nobody has any interest in except for russia and china like I stated earlier.


Imagine if the US did what socialist europe wanted them to do... eliminate the nuclear arsenal, abolish our 2nd amendment which was part of the reason we freed and protected ourselves from those oppressive aholes, assume the position and a trade deficit with everyone, impose sanctions on ourselves, make our toilets flush in the opposite direction, etc.. we'd be screwed!

Meanwhile Putin and Cheng would have Europe believing that they weren't engaging in arms development... and low and behold, all of our newly reformed sissy behinds would be eating rice and trading in our dollas for rubels!

NO THANK YOU VERY MUCH

 

[Double Trouble]

These kinds of threads are always entertaining, kinda like watching two kids on a playground saying &quot;my dad can beat up your dad!&quot;

The bottom line is that the US will simply thumb it's nose at the pompous &quot;world court&quot; and continue as it wants to. The Europeans will get their panties in a bunch for a while, but there's nothing they can do about it.

It's funny... I'm Dutch, living in the US, and I really get to see issues from both sides of the pond. Americans have a proud heritage of standing up for their country and for what they believe is right -- which often spills over into arrogance and the belief that the US is the only place that matters. The Europeans on the other hand have been conditioned over hundreds of years to think that they are the &quot;civilized&quot; ones, and that everyone else out there is inferior - especially when it comes to &quot;humanitarian&quot; issues. Worse, they have been conditioned to think that all things must start with the government, and that everything should be done by the all-knowing government. Sheeesh. Sadly, this same idea is spreading like cancer to the US (*cough* Hillary *cough*).

I honestly don't think the EU will ever be a threat to the US because there simply isn't enough unity between EU members. Member countries distrust each other too much. In the US, there are squabbles between the states, but people think of themselves as &quot;Americans&quot;, not as (for example) Rhode Islanders members of the US. EU folks think of themselves as &quot;Germans&quot;, &quot;British&quot; etc, who's country happens to be a member of the EU.........

 

[syzygy]

the gist of this story is not as the title of this thread reads but that the u.s.
breached a treaty provision to the vienna convention and that the international court
of justice's finding against the u.s. is binding. the u.s. appears to have agreed
with the ruling because changes were made to prevent a recurrence.




<< In the landmark ruling, the court also said its provisional orders to national
courts were legally binding, criticising the U.S. state of Arizona for ignoring
the court's order to delay the execution of one of the brothers >>





<< German journalist Martina Koch told CNN the case was important in terms of
international law, as it is the first time the court has said its provisional
orders are binding >>



as a signee of the convention, and a continuing participant, co-author, and
advocate for treaty policies, the u.s. should uphold the provisions she agreed
to and which she defends against other member's infringements, lest she be
judged a moral hypocrite.

 

[Capn]

A small part (very small in scale) of WW2 was fought on US soil too. Heh, and foreigners complain Americans don't know their history.

 

[ukDave]

Why is this topic now 'America vs Europe'? Its stupid. We should be (and kind of) are allies who should be helping each other instead of getting moody.

Right!

:Q

dave

 

[J2T]

Ya know it cracks me up. I have to agree with tagej. I have noticed that a lot of Europeans and Canadians will sit there and say how arrogant the U.S. is when they are just as arrogant as we are. Kind of cracks me up. Anyone wants to attack us....bring it on. Our citizens have their guns.

Everyone needs to chill out.

Jared

 

[B00ne]

What cracks me up is how easily some ppl get offended - and how some always talk about going to war and their military might.
my god war sux its stupid and nobody want to go to war except for some screwheads in screwed governments.
I for myself wouldnt even stand up for oh my country, there are other places to live.

 

[prontospyder]

<<We should be (and kind of) are allies who should be helping each other instead of getting moody.>>

Yep...hopefully, that alliance doesn't fall apart.

 

[351Cleveland]

Europe can unite against a common enemy... Just like they did in WW1 and WW2. I just do not understand why millions of Americans were needed to help win the war if Europe is so self-reliant and self-sufficient...

 

[TimberWolf]

Thankyou tagej, that's mainly what I was trying to convey.

I have no problem with Europeans per se (or Russians, or Canadians, for that matter - I'm 1/4 French Canadian ). And the image of the arrogant American guest in another country is far too accurate and typical, much to my regret.

I don't view any particular country as an &quot;enemy&quot;; at least not as far as it's respective citizens are concerned. It is the leaders of many countries that must be viewed with distrust.

When the individual is deliberately limited with regard to what they can acheive for themselves, and trained to believe that the success of their nation-state is more important than their personal acheivement, they usually assume a role of submissive dependence to that authority. Envy and resentment are natural by-products of that form of mental conditioning.

Granting a &quot;World Court&quot; binding authority that trancends the sovereign powers and laws of any nation is a dangerous precedent. It is simply another tool for those who seek power by promoting the illusion that the world cannot progress toward greater prosperity, health, and harmony unless national boundries and individual identity are rendered obsolete.

 

[BreakApart]

Wow!

I'm so proud of many of you. Suprised to see so many of you informed about the current political situation around the world.-(my first trip through off-topic, in awhile)

The World Court is so confused about itself, that attacking the US is the only thing they can really agree on these days. Regardless if the WC destroys the US or not, they fear China more than anything. China could sweep through Europe like a plaque wiping out everything infront of it. The WC knows this, that's why they play these little games to erode, yet not disrupt the world balance of power.

As a matter of fact the WC would love to see the US and China fight it out. Then they would have an easier chance defeating the winner after such a war. Russia needs a few years to restore itself anywhere near where it was, so they are no threat currently.

Everything published about the current goals of the WC leads me to believe they are not going to attack us directly. Instead they are going to use *Hilary types* to push their agenda into OUR school system and culture-(it's already here actually). Teaching our children to be good little socialists, obey politicians, and we will take care of you. Makes me sick! Before we know it, we will be the lapdog of the WC.

I'm sure those that care already know. It's the rest I'm worried about.

 

[arod]

nothing is going to come out of this

 

[syzygy]

breakapart, lost your ritalin ?



<< I'm so proud of many of you >>



you'll dislike moi, thankfully.



<< (y first trip through off-topic, in awhile) >>



at long last, you graduated from the michigan militia academy, eh ?




<< Everything published about the current goals of the WC leads me
to believe they are not going to attack us directly. Instead they
are going to use *Hilary types* to push their agenda into OUR school
system and culture-(it's already here actually). >>



ofcourse they're here, foolish boy. did you check your local kindergarten
this morning ? go meet those new foreign exchange students instructing
the innocent white toddlers. if you listen carefully, you'll notice a
slight 'european' accent slip through on occasion, and if you check the
parking lot you'll see a number of black soviet zils, the old politburo's
favorite wheels.




<< Teaching our children to be good little socialists, obey politicians,
and we will take care of you >>



you say this as if its terrible




<< Makes me sick >>



like flesh decomposing ebola sick ?

i can wish, no ?

 

[GameQuoter]

<< BRING IT ON. EUROPE COULD KICK YOUR 'CANDY ASSES' ANY DAY.

dave >>



hahahaha. The US could take out the UK quickly, while the boy scouts are busy occupying France, it's downhill from there.