World Court Favors Germany Over U.S.

[prontospyder]

<< THE HAGUE, Netherlands (AP) - The World Court ruled in favor of Germany in a case involving the U.S. execution of two German brothers in 1999, saying the United States violated international law when it failed to grant consular rights to Germans. >>



http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/ap/20010627/ts/world_court_us_execution.html

I wonder what will be US's punishment?

 

[Tauren]

<<I wonder what will be US's punishment?>>

Like we'll really give a sh*t!

 

[Helpless]

...no more Wienerschnitzel mit pommes und salat

 

[ATLien247]

I have an idea... how about we send all of our Death Row inmates over to these EU countries that oppose the death penalty. Think they'd go for that?

 

[prontospyder]

<<how about we send all of our Death Row inmates over to these EU countries that oppose the death penalty. Think they'd go for that?>>

Interesting concept.

 

[AaronP]

we could parachute them in, say something like:

&quot;OK, here's the deal, We will air-drop you over Europe, if you promise to NEVER enter the United States once you're dropped.&quot;

he, that would solve our prison problem, and also stick it to the euros at the same time!

 

[shifrbv]

I think people in the US better watch out for the EU. With their expansionist policies, they have the potential to be just as big as the US (marketwise) and they are already trying to exert their power over US companies and policies. Look at the GE/Honeywell merger and the holding of the abortion doctor killer in France. These might be smaller statements right now, but as the EU continues to grow, the US will need to show respect for their ideologies.

 

[Shantanu]

I read the story, and Germany's involvement was a total joke. Those two men had been living in the U.S. since they were toddlers. For whatever reason, they chose never to upgrade their green cards to American citizenships (which they were probably eligible for since they were 5). As a last ditch attempt to use some lame technicality to get the men off, their lawyers wrote to the German government and asked them to intervene because the men weren't informed of their &quot;consular rights&quot; when arrested. I would imagine the cops failed to do this, because one wouldn't normally assume a white person from Arizona is a foreign citizen unless they were speaking in a funny accent. Even if they had been informed of their &quot;consular rights&quot;, I doubt it would have prevented their inevitable conviction and execution. The fact that they got a fair trial and 15 years of appeals remains.

 

[TimberWolf]

The &quot;European Union&quot; is the last chance bid to (collectively) re-capture the &quot;Empires&quot; most of the charter countries lost.

With Social Democrats, or their ideological clones, holding the reins of power for now, they are attempting to forge an interdependant (or at least symbiotic) relationship with each other.

The motive is, as usual, power - mainly for those in charge. The problem is that Europe has a centuries-old history of erupting into some form of warfare every 20 to 30 years or so . . .

And they claim we're &quot;violent&quot; . . .

 

[AnitaPeterson]

European states might have a history of skirmishes, but they could also unite very quickly against a common enemy.

Care to guess who would that be, considering the increasing general wave of antipathy towards the U.S.?

The E.U. already has a population equal to the U.S., though a smaller landmass. But they might have new members soon. And in a more distant future, if Russia joins the E.U. as well, they will change the world's balance of power. You are also forgetting that the U.S. never fought a war on its own soil, and that its people's mentality is different. And social-democracy is preferable to laissez-faire liberalism, by the way...

Bottom line: Do not underestimate the Europeans.

 

[AMDJunkie]

Where have I seen the European Union before? Hmm, I remember it from somewhere. Oh yeah, the Soviet Union! :disgust:

 

[GalenOfEdgewood]

<< I wonder what will be US's punishment? >>



After reading that article, it appears nothing, or at the least, that the punishment will not or can not be enforced.



<< The verdict is binding and not subject to appeal, however the World Court has no independent means to enforce compliance. >>



-Galen

 

[GameQuoter]

The &quot;total unification&quot; of Europe will only happen if one of the countries occupies all the others and forms a union.

 

[JoeBaD]

<< ...but they could also unite very quickly against a common enemy. >>



Like when?

 

[B00ne]

this ruling has to be seen symbolic to prevent furhter violations - if u have read the story, the US is violating these a consular rights on a regular basis

BTW There are more Germans to be executed in the US and at least one is innocent - outragous

 

[B00ne]

<< With their expansionist policies, they have the potential to be just as big as the US (marketwise) >>



are u joking what kind of expansionist are u talking about or did u just unfreeze from the colonial times

btw europe doenst have the potential to be a market as big as the US The EU itself is already a bigger market than the US

 

[TimberWolf]

<< You are also forgetting that the U.S. never fought a war on its own soil, and that its people's mentality is different. >>



American Revolution
War of 1812
US Civil War
Mexican-American War
and don't forget that little skirmish with Pancho Villa.

We even came up a couple of times and fought on your soil.

You're right - our mentality is different. We fought a war, on our soil, to establish a Republic based on democratic principles and the ideal that the Government is servent to it's Citizens. We recognize that our Citizens have Inalienable Rights - the Citizen is born with them; they are not &quot;granted&quot; by a benevolent government.

Regretably, and with few exceptions, Europeans are subjects with some conditional &quot;rights&quot; accorded to them by their respective governments. Hundreds upon hundreds of years of mental conditioning doesn't change in a few decades, and it's the ideal environment for Socialism to flourish. And the true goal of Socialism is harnessing the masses for the benefit of those in power.

The &quot;World Court&quot; is just another stepping stone to the Social-Democrat's ideal of &quot;World Government&quot;. I make it a point to never underestimate the corrupting influence of power, especially on that level.

 

[reitz]

<< BTW There are more Germans to be executed in the US and at least one is innocent - outragous >>

Really? And just what court found that person innocent, and then condemned him to death? You might want to dig up some facts to back your opinions up, instead of just talking out of your ass.

 

[RichieZ]

So how much is the Euro worth now?

 

[Shantanu]

Is it just me, or is b00ne a troll? Every post from this little kid amounts to &quot;America sucks, Europe is better!&quot; :disgust:

 

[B00ne]

The case of this supposedly innocent guy was researched by some news magazine which led to considering to take up the case again - which is good.



Shantanu
I dont see where i say that America sux and Europe is better. Each region has issues but since u are a righteous nation foreigerners should be granted their rights thats it. If this issue was the other way around i would complain even more since i live here. When in doubt about the guilt of someone u shouldnt go ahead and execute - period. No matter if in the States or in Europe or anywhere else on the world

 

[Phunktion]

<< And in a more distant future, if Russia joins the E.U. as well, they will change the world's balance of power. >>


One things for sure.. if Russia joins the E.U. the Euro's value will plummet..
Funny thing about the world's antipathy of the US is the reason it's there is because the US people as a nation don't give a damn what other countries think of us and most of them don't have any rational reason to think themselves superior to us anyway.

 

[ukDave]

BRING IT ON. EUROPE COULD KICK YOUR 'CANDY ASSES' ANY DAY.

dave

 

[67gt500]

The E.U. already has a population equal to the U.S., though a smaller landmass. But they might have new members soon. And in a more distant future, if Russia joins the E.U. as well, they will change the world's balance of power. and that its people's mentality is different. And social-democracy is preferable to laissez-faire liberalism, by the way...

Bottom line: Do not underestimate the Europeans.

L
O
L

The EU has it's panties in a frizzle over Russia. They so fear Putin that it is hilarious to watch them address any eastern european policies for fear that the big bad Russia will turn around and invade lithuania or some BS.



You are also forgetting that the U.S. never fought a war on its own soil,

this is almost as believable as you once being a US citizen.

If you support the uprising of the E.U. then you are no different than those who supported Stalin or Hitler, just on a different level. Every past empire which has attempted to do with the EU is now trying to do has collapsed in horror. Which is part of the reason that advocates like myself are getting ticked off with US foreign policy. We are setting ourselves up for the same fate Empires have historical faced.

You just approve of what the EU is doing because you hate america.

 

[67gt500]

<< You are also forgetting that the U.S. never fought a war on its own soil, and that its people's mentality is different. >>



American Revolution
War of 1812
US Civil War
Mexican-American War
and don't forget that little skirmish with Pancho Villa.

yeah, anita is the same one who has been claiming to be a former US citizen and using it as a foundation for all her america hate spew. Apparently she wasn't educated in a civilized society because the war of 1812 would have been taught at an elementary level in Britain, France, Canada or the US.