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World Captivated By US Presidential Race - Obama Most Popular Abroad

jpeyton

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This election is generating the most buzz of any I've seen in my lifetime. Not only is the entire world (our country included) waiting to see what direction we'll take in the post-GWB-era, but the historical significance of Obama's ethnicity and Hillary's pair of X chromosomes are bringing in support from demographics and populations that simply didn't care in past years when the choices were limited to "old white men".

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By WILLIAM J. KOLE

Germans are gaga over Barack Obama. He's got Japan pretty jazzed, too, along with Hillary Rodham Clinton. Russia's leaders, not so much: They prefer a Republican ? as long as it's not Kremlin critic John McCain.

And Mexico's president? He doesn't have much use for any of them.

America's extraordinary presidential campaign has captivated politicians and ordinary people around the globe. With so much at stake in the race for the White House, the world is watching with an intensity that hasn't been seen since the Clinton era began in 1992.

After eight years of President Bush, the latest mantra in U.S. politics ? "transformational change" ? is resonating across the rest of a planet desperate for a fresh start.

"They feel there's a real chance to work with the U.S.," said Julianne Smith, a senior fellow at the Washington-based Center for Strategic and International Studies. "America's image in the world is really on the line."

Non-Americans, she said, are looking for someone who can "restore faith in the United States."

Obama, perhaps not surprisingly, is generating most of the buzz abroad.

"Der schwarze Kennedy," some German admirers are calling him: "The black JFK."

"He is young, charming and sexy!" the mass-circulation newspaper Bild gushed. "Obama is now the ideal projection screen for hopes and expectations in Europe" and the U.S. alike, said Christian Hacke, a professor at the University of Bonn.

"I like him. I like his ideas, his attitude, his appearance. I prefer him to Hillary Clinton, who is more artificial," said Eva Berto, a Rome doctor who thinks Obama would bring a new approach to the crisis in Iraq and the nuclear standoff with Iran.

Japanese media are closely tracking both Obama and the woman they refer to simply as "Hillary," and focusing on the possibility that either could make history.

"The idea since the country's founding ? 'You can't become president if you're not a white man' ? has already been destroyed," the Mainichi newspaper said in an editorial.

But in Europe, where some see Obama as untested, support for Clinton is widespread, and nostalgia for her husband's charisma runs deep. When scandals rocked the Clinton White House, most Europeans responded with a Gallic shrug.

"Nobody in Europe ever took Bill Clinton's problems in office seriously," said Patrick Dunleavy, a political scientist at the London School of Economics. "Nobody could ever understand why Americans were so upset. Bill Clinton was always a fantastic presence in Europe."

The Republican presidential hopefuls, by contrast, are not highly regarded in Europe: Mitt Romney and Mike Huckabee are seen as too religious, and the 71-year-old McCain as too old.

To Britons, history's most popular postwar presidents were Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton because of their perceived levelheadedness and intelligence, said Dunleavy. The most despised? President Bush and Ronald Reagan "because they were seen as erratic and unpredictable," he said.

Yet Democrats don't rule the entire world of public opinion.

Saad al-Hadithi, a political analyst in Baghdad, contends the Republican candidates are more committed to Iraq and have a better approach.

"They show more support to the political progress and to combating terrorist groups in Iraq," he said. "The Democrats, especially Hillary Clinton, are calling for the withdrawal of U.S. forces, but they are not offering an alternative. Such a withdrawal while the Iraqi security forces are still weak will lead to disastrous results."

Russia's leaders also consider Republicans more pragmatic, said Nkolai Petrov, an analyst with the Carnegie Moscow Center.

But the Kremlin, Petrov said, would likely have "serious concerns" if McCain wins the Republican nomination because of the Arizona senator's harsh and persistent criticism of Vladimir Putin's autocratic government.

Others in Russia are drawn to the lively U.S. campaign if only because it's such a sharp contrast to Moscow's tightly choreographed March 2 presidential election ? a contest that Putin's favored successor, Dmitry Medvedev, is seen as certain to win.

Africans naturally gravitate toward Obama, whose father was from Kenya.

Israelis, though, seem to prefer Hillary Clinton ? even though Obama has voiced support for key Israeli demands in peace talks with the Palestinians ? because of her experience and the backing Bill Clinton gave to the Jewish state during his two terms as president.

Amid the raging debate over immigration, Mexicans arguably have more at stake in the U.S. election than any other nation. But President Felipe Calderon doesn't think very highly of any of the candidates.

"The only theme," he declared in December, "is to compete to see who can be the most swaggering, macho and anti-Mexican."

In the post-Bush era, the bottom line is blunt and simple, Dunleavy said.

"People all around the world are pretty worried," he said. "They want a president who will restore a kind of U.S. legitimacy in the world."
 
Non-Americans, she said, are looking for someone who can "restore faith in the United States."

Nope. They want a president who will do their bidding, a president who perhaps has goals that coincide with their own self-interests. That tells you a lot about our supposed allies.
 
Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Non-Americans, she said, are looking for someone who can "restore faith in the United States."

Nope. They want a president who will do their bidding, a president who perhaps has goals that coincide with their own self-interests. That tells you a lot about our supposed allies.

Could it be that the world is simply looking for the US with a president that they can just get along?

All countries have their self interest first, but with the current regime the world has basically held their noses while they dealt with the US administration. Maybe the world is tired and just wants better relations with the US, after all, the world still sees the US as the most powerful nation and a leader of sorts.


 
Originally posted by: GroundedSailor
Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Non-Americans, she said, are looking for someone who can "restore faith in the United States."

Nope. They want a president who will do their bidding, a president who perhaps has goals that coincide with their own self-interests. That tells you a lot about our supposed allies.

Could it be that the world is simply looking for the US with a president that they can just get along?

All countries have their self interest first, but with the current regime the world has basically held their noses while they dealt with the US administration. Maybe the world is tired and just wants better relations with the US, after all, the world still sees the US as the most powerful nation and a leader of sorts.
No, it couldn't be. If the other countries don't like Bush it's not because he is a sh*t president but becasue they are jealous and he's just not playing their games!

 
Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Non-Americans, she said, are looking for someone who can "restore faith in the United States."

Nope. They want a president who will do their bidding, a president who perhaps has goals that coincide with their own self-interests. That tells you a lot about our supposed allies.

There's no fooling you, is there?
 
Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Non-Americans, she said, are looking for someone who can "restore faith in the United States."

Nope. They want a president who will do their bidding, a president who perhaps has goals that coincide with their own self-interests. That tells you a lot about our supposed allies.

The fukkers; let's nukem all.

 
Originally posted by: brxndxn
Obama most popular abroad? Maybe if you decide to act like Ron Paul does not exist..
I would be happy with either one. If Paul makes it on the ballot, he has my vote. Otherwise it's Obama.

And yes Obama is the most popular abroad. Grass roots campaigns can bring in citizens, but foreigners unhappy with US policies over the last two terms are ignoring the Republican party completely.

Paul should keep the option to run as an Independent on the table in case he doesn't get the nomination.
 
Originally posted by: brxndxn
Obama most popular abroad? Maybe if you decide to act like Ron Paul does not exist..

The same Ron Paul who wants to cut foreign aid drastically, close overseas military bases and barely registers on the American public's radar, let alone the world's?

You need to come back to reality. Paul would be very unpopular with the rest of the world if they actually knew about him and his policy ideas.
 
Originally posted by: brxndxn
Obama most popular abroad? Maybe if you decide to act like Ron Paul does not exist..
ROFLMAO!!! good one! 😕 As far as most of the world is concerned, he doesn't.

GO OBAMA!!
 
Originally posted by: GroundedSailor
Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Non-Americans, she said, are looking for someone who can "restore faith in the United States."

Nope. They want a president who will do their bidding, a president who perhaps has goals that coincide with their own self-interests. That tells you a lot about our supposed allies.

Could it be that the world is simply looking for the US with a president that they can just get along?

All countries have their self interest first, but with the current regime the world has basically held their noses while they dealt with the US administration. Maybe the world is tired and just wants better relations with the US, after all, the world still sees the US as the most powerful nation and a leader of sorts.

I don't think that countries with white supremacist ideologies in their governments are looking forward to working with an Obama administration.
 
Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Non-Americans, she said, are looking for someone who can "restore faith in the United States."

Nope. They want a president who will do their bidding, a president who perhaps has goals that coincide with their own self-interests. That tells you a lot about our supposed allies.

Ah yes, the great evils of being concerned with your own interests. Not like us folks here in America, where we think of nothing but the other guy :roll:

The United States is in the very interesting position of being able to dramatically affect almost everyone in the world, yet we are led by a government that's accountable to less than 5% of the world population. I for one would be shocked if foreigners WEREN'T concerned about who's leading this country, particularly when we've adopted the foreign policy that we may suddenly decide we're going to invade and/or bomb your country.

Suppose you were a foreigner, and the only thing really standing between you and an F-117 dropping a laser guided bomb on your house was the choice made by a group of Americans you'd never met. I think you'd be interested, too.
 
Originally posted by: Rainsford
Suppose you were a foreigner, and the only thing really standing between you and an F-117 dropping a laser guided bomb on your house was the choice made by a group of Americans you'd never met. I think you'd be interested, too.

Only people who need be concerned are Muslims with (or with the intention to build) nuclear weapons or who previously had chemical weapons and started a war in Kuwait. Now that we?re already in Iraq we can rule out the latter and only apply the former as the rule of choice.

Everyone else on the planet should be rather fine according to even our worst foreign policy.

Or, perhaps you are crazy enough to think Canada is in imminent danger?
 
Originally posted by: Jaskalas
Originally posted by: Rainsford
Suppose you were a foreigner, and the only thing really standing between you and an F-117 dropping a laser guided bomb on your house was the choice made by a group of Americans you'd never met. I think you'd be interested, too.

Only people who need be concerned are Muslims with (or with the intention to build) nuclear weapons or who previously had chemical weapons and started a war in Kuwait. Now that we?re already in Iraq we can rule out the latter and only apply the former as the rule of choice.

Everyone else on the planet should be rather fine according to even our worst foreign policy.

Or, perhaps you are crazy enough to think Canada is in imminent danger?

I may have used a little hyperbole to try to make my point, but I think the general principle still stands. The US leadership of the world has not exactly been stable these past several years, and it would be ridiculous to suggest what we do doesn't have the potential to affect everyone in the world in a way that no other country can.

And I'm not sure how much I was really exaggerating. You and many others have often suggested we really need to "get serious" about waging war on the Muslim world. Not just terrorists, not just extremists, "Muslims"...all of them, wherever they may be. Now maybe you just have a big mouth (what are the odds?), but your comments are hardly unique...if I was a Muslim living outside the United States, I might be concerned that people like you might have a loud enough voice to turn idle ranting into reality.
 
Originally posted by: Rainsford
And I'm not sure how much I was really exaggerating. You and many others have often suggested we really need to "get serious" about waging war on the Muslim world. Not just terrorists, not just extremists, "Muslims"...all of them, wherever they may be. Now maybe you just have a big mouth (what are the odds?), but your comments are hardly unique...if I was a Muslim living outside the United States, I might be concerned that people like you might have a loud enough voice to turn idle ranting into reality.

Interesting, you fail to distinguish between ALL Muslims everywhere and violent Islamic Supremacists. Why is that?

Yes, the host for their cancer is all of Islam, and ONLY through them shall their cancer be cut out. They are not doing enough to stop it, and so we must apply pressure on them to do so.

I totally believe such a campaign begins here at home, not overseas. I consider Iraq a counter productive distraction away from the real issue of separating the host from its cancer.

Of course, I?d settle for you just believing that Islam HAS a cancer in the first place. Would be a real helpful step towards coming to some useful actions we can take.


As for the world, alright, I understand they like Iran where it?s at and they probably have as much anxiety as we have over the tensions. Still, with our military bogged down in nation building ? I really REALLY doubt we are capable of expanding this nation building campaign, especially with how unpopular it is.

I think the world can see GWB?s and Congress?s approval ratings. I?m all for killing our killers, but even I do not approve of our actions these past seven years.
 
Originally posted by: Mardeth
Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Non-Americans, she said, are looking for someone who can "restore faith in the United States."

Nope. They want a president who will do their bidding, a president who perhaps has goals that coincide with their own self-interests. That tells you a lot about our supposed allies.

There's no fooling you, is there?

You got that so so right. He knows just exactly how they are.......by seeing himself in others.
 
Originally posted by: Rainsford
Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Non-Americans, she said, are looking for someone who can "restore faith in the United States."

Nope. They want a president who will do their bidding, a president who perhaps has goals that coincide with their own self-interests. That tells you a lot about our supposed allies.

Ah yes, the great evils of being concerned with your own interests. Not like us folks here in America, where we think of nothing but the other guy :roll:

I did not claim that being concerned with your own interests is an evil. However, I would claim that some of the interests of the places mentioned in the article are evil.

The United States is in the very interesting position of being able to dramatically affect almost everyone in the world, yet we are led by a government that's accountable to less than 5% of the world population. I for one would be shocked if foreigners WEREN'T concerned about who's leading this country, particularly when we've adopted the foreign policy that we may suddenly decide we're going to invade and/or bomb your country.

Suppose you were a foreigner, and the only thing really standing between you and an F-117 dropping a laser guided bomb on your house was the choice made by a group of Americans you'd never met. I think you'd be interested, too.

I'm not claiming that they should not be interested.
 
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Originally posted by: Mardeth
Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Non-Americans, she said, are looking for someone who can "restore faith in the United States."

Nope. They want a president who will do their bidding, a president who perhaps has goals that coincide with their own self-interests. That tells you a lot about our supposed allies.

There's no fooling you, is there?

You got that so so right. He knows just exactly how they are.......by seeing himself in others.

An iceberg is made of ice yet also a type of lettuce.
 
Originally posted by: yllus
Originally posted by: brxndxn
Obama most popular abroad? Maybe if you decide to act like Ron Paul does not exist..

The same Ron Paul who wants to cut foreign aid drastically, close overseas military bases and barely registers on the American public's radar, let alone the world's?

You need to come back to reality. Paul would be very unpopular with the rest of the world if they actually knew about him and his policy ideas.

It's because people are sick of America trying to run the world that would get out of Iraq 100%. So yes, they want Ron Paul.


 
Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: GroundedSailor
Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Non-Americans, she said, are looking for someone who can "restore faith in the United States."

Nope. They want a president who will do their bidding, a president who perhaps has goals that coincide with their own self-interests. That tells you a lot about our supposed allies.

Could it be that the world is simply looking for the US with a president that they can just get along?

All countries have their self interest first, but with the current regime the world has basically held their noses while they dealt with the US administration. Maybe the world is tired and just wants better relations with the US, after all, the world still sees the US as the most powerful nation and a leader of sorts.

I don't think that countries with white supremacist ideologies in their governments are looking forward to working with an Obama administration.

Seriously, can you name those countries with "white supremacist ideologies in their governments"? The last one I can think of was South Africa.

 
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