Workplace implanted chips

[bononos]

Why would anyone want to get cancer?

 

[lxskllr]

You either didn't read the article, or don't understand RFID. It's not a GPS enabled device that's tracking your every move. It's a ID... like a swipe badge or a credit card. You need readers installed for it to do anything, and those readers need to be networked in some way to know what to do (ie: door reader needs to know that your tag is approved to open the door). It's like getting a barcode tattooed on you that you have to scan to enter buildings and shit.

Because readers are an egregious expense, and networking an intractable problem, right? 75% tracking = 100% tracking for all intents and purposes.

 

[brainhulk]

What to do when these implants get skimmed of data and identity theft occurs. Remove old implant, inject new one?

 

[Red Squirrel]

The idea of implants always kinda freaked me out, reminds me way too much of the mark of the beast. Though that kinda is influenced by the Left Behind and similar series. The mark of the beast is something that happens only after the rapture. But I still don't like the idea of any kind of implant or ID regardless. Not just because of the Bible but because of the idea of having something in me that basically allows me to be tracked even more easily than it already is with existing technology. I would hate to see it end up mandatory, but I could see it happen. At least in the states. The states are kinda gungho when it comes to workplace related stuff. Like mandatory drug tests, and having to hand over your social media credentials etc.

 

[Red Squirrel]

What to do when these implants get skimmed of data and identity theft occurs. Remove old implant, inject new one?

That would be my main fear. I presume it would be RFID and have a fixed ID code, just like a door access fob. If someone skims it, they could use that against you like impersonate you etc. With a fob system, they'd just issue you a new fob and delete all the door ACLs for the old ID.

In a world where the government and corporations are not hell bent to know every little detail of our lives, what would be awesome is an ID card that can act as a credit card, bank card, photo ID, workplace ID, health card, passport etc... all in one. Instead of the implant you just have that card. It would have all the info in it. That way it would be one thing to carry and be your access to everthing. There would also be a pin like bank/credit card already has but the pin would be global. But back to reality.. such card would be a security/privacy nightmare whether it's a card or an implant or anything else like that.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

If you quit or get fired who removes the chip?

 

[Red Squirrel]

If you quit or get fired who removes the chip?

They just send you for an MRI.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

They just send you for an MRI.

That's a pretty serious question I asked. Some states require up to date pay at severance would chip removal be required to happen before pay ends?

 

[Red Squirrel]

I presume these chips would be field programmable, so maybe they would be able to wipe or reprogram it wirelesly. Ex: they would be smarter than a typical RFID.

Hopefully if this ever does happen they will at least stick to a certain standard so that all workplaces use the same technology, so that when you get a new job they just reprogram the same chip. Though that would also require some kind of lock so that people can't tamper with it, but it would also need to be reprogrammed if you quit/get fired from a job and can't go back to get it reset etc. Perhaps only workplaces would have access to the equipment that can program it.

 

[bigboxes]

The idea of implants always kinda freaked me out, reminds me way too much of the mark of the beast. Though that kinda is influenced by the Left Behind and similar series. The mark of the beast is something that happens only after the rapture. But I still don't like the idea of any kind of implant or ID regardless. Not just because of the Bible but because of the idea of having something in me that basically allows me to be tracked even more easily than it already is with existing technology. I would hate to see it end up mandatory, but I could see it happen. At least in the states. The states are kinda gungho when it comes to workplace related stuff. Like mandatory drug tests, and having to hand over your social media credentials etc.

Woe to you, Oh Earth and Sea
For the Devil sends the beast with wrath
Because he knows the time is short
Let him who hath understanding reckon the number of the beast
For it is a human number
Its number is Six hundred and sixty six

 

[bigboxes]

And no, I think it's an awful idea. I realize it's just something you are (MFA), but I see a lot of bad things coming from this. None of it biblical.

 

[urvile]

You either didn't read the article, or don't understand RFID. It's not a GPS enabled device that's tracking your every move. It's a ID... like a swipe badge or a credit card. You need readers installed for it to do anything, and those readers need to be networked in some way to know what to do (ie: door reader needs to know that your tag is approved to open the door). It's like getting a barcode tattooed on you that you have to scan to enter buildings and shit.

Seriously though, I see this as more being a government thing and not a company thing. Like a career chip from futurama, except it can do a lot more. It could be tied into your house security, tied into your vehicle so you don't even need a keyfob anymore, eliminate physical credit cards when you can just scan yourself, etc... It's basically your social security number, on a chip, inside of you. The possibilities are endless, and that's exactly how they're going to sucker so many of us into doing it. The idea of "simplification"... I need to stop, I think I just got an idea for a novel

You can get RFID wristbands. Why on earth would you want to get it implanted? You can set up RFID location networks where an RFID SoC can be tracked in real time within the network using protocols like Zigbee. They aren't passive though and are probably still far to big to implant. Last I saw them they required a large battery board and an antennae. Give it time though people. Give it time.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

I presume these chips would be field programmable, so maybe they would be able to wipe or reprogram it wirelesly. Ex: they would be smarter than a typical RFID.

Hopefully if this ever does happen they will at least stick to a certain standard so that all workplaces use the same technology, so that when you get a new job they just reprogram the same chip. Though that would also require some kind of lock so that people can't tamper with it, but it would also need to be reprogrammed if you quit/get fired from a job and can't go back to get it reset etc. Perhaps only workplaces would have access to the equipment that can program it.

I'm not talking about business security, I'm talking about employment ending and I don't want a chip in my arm or hand.
What happens if someone gets an infection that leads to an amputation because of the chip.
This is similar to the controversy about employers being able to ask for access to an employee Facebook account. No reputable business will ask such a thing it's a legal nightmare

 

[ch33zw1z]

Nope.

 

[Red Squirrel]

I'm not talking about business security, I'm talking about employment ending and I don't want a chip in my arm or hand.
What happens if someone gets an infection that leads to an amputation because of the chip.
This is similar to the controversy about employers being able to ask for access to an employee Facebook account. No reputable business will ask such a thing it's a legal nightmare

You'd probably be on your own. It would be in the contract that you sign to get the job. Same with work place agreements that say anything you do on your own time they own etc. you can choose to not agree and not sign, but then you don't have a job.

 

[MtnMan]

They will track your purchases of snacks in the break room vending machines, and if you choose unhealthy snacks, they can raise your health insurance costs.

 

[OutHouse]

I will never allow my company to surgically implant me with a chip. Any person who would consent to this is a fucking idiot.

 

[bigboxes]

I will never allow my company to surgically implant me with a chip. Any person who would consent to this is a fucking idiot.

Go find sancutary!

 

[Fanatical Meat]

You'd probably be on your own. It would be in the contract that you sign to get the job. Same with work place agreements that say anything you do on your own time they own etc. you can choose to not agree and not sign, but then you don't have a job.

I'm thinking state laws

 

[ch33zw1z]

They will track your purchases of snacks in the break room vending machines, and if you choose unhealthy snacks, they can raise your health insurance costs.

Maybe track you in the bathroom, if you take too long, dock your pay. Maybe monitor your movements, if it's unhealthy, raise your health insurance costs lol.

The possibilities for employee control are endless

 

[ch33zw1z]

You'd probably be on your own. It would be in the contract that you sign to get the job. Same with work place agreements that say anything you do on your own time they own etc. you can choose to not agree and not sign, but then you don't have a job.

Gonna be a cold day in hell before I sign. No job that I can qualify for is worth that.

 

[Craig234]

All these posts that they'd never do it are written now, before it's normalized, before they really couldn't get a job without it. All or nearly all would change.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Wait I just read most employees are volunteering to avoid passwords?

 

[Darwin333]

That's a pretty serious question I asked. Some states require up to date pay at severance would chip removal be required to happen before pay ends?

If you watched the video at the very end they say that the person can remove it themselves by just pushing it out.