Workplace and MLK

[PanzerIV]

This attitude wouldn't be because he's black would it? Hmmm??

Oh and I was always curious how Christopher Columbus "discovered" a continent that was already heavily populated thousands of years before he got here not to mention the Viking's forays here waaaaay before Columbus' time.

 

[Platypus]

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: CorporateRecreation

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: CorporateRecreation

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: CorporateRecreation

Originally posted by: BostonRedSox
Since my workplace decided to put up a huge picture of MLK because his day is Monday, I wonder if I make a big enough stink, they'll put up a picture of Christopher Columbus in October to honor his day, since I am Italian. Reverse political correctness, seems if it's good for one, it should be good for all.

MLK actually did something for this country... Columbus accidentaly ran into it and killed everyone in sight.

Wait.. now I'm getting a rolling eyes smile for the truth? This guy is amazing!

No, you get a rolleyes for oversimplifying the story with total focus and exaggeration of the negative.

I'm sorry, can you find a positive in the mass murder of Native Americans? I'd love to hear it.

There you go again. You focus on one single negative aspect of a much more complex story... and you judge it by 20th century ethics rather than the mindset of the time.

I still haven't heard your position on why you think a mass murderer deserves any recognition whatsoever and one positive thing that came out of his slaying of Native Americans. There is no complex story here buddy, he came to America, tried to convert everyone to his religion, they opposed, and they were killed. Who gives a fvck about 'the mindset' of the time. I suppose the holocaust was ok because the German 'mindset' was that Jews were the cause for all their problems. Sorry, next time I'll put on my brain handicapp before replying to you.

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: brownh2o

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: CorporateRecreation

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: CorporateRecreation

Originally posted by: BostonRedSox
Since my workplace decided to put up a huge picture of MLK because his day is Monday, I wonder if I make a big enough stink, they'll put up a picture of Christopher Columbus in October to honor his day, since I am Italian. Reverse political correctness, seems if it's good for one, it should be good for all.

MLK actually did something for this country... Columbus accidentaly ran into it and killed everyone in sight.

Wait.. now I'm getting a rolling eyes smile for the truth? This guy is amazing!

No, you get a rolleyes for oversimplifying the story with total focus and exaggeration of the negative.

Yes, you're right, we should put on rose colored glasses and forget about 'the negative.' I am now seeing mass murders in a new light! Charles Manson was a good guy; he promoted family values and made people feel like they belong. Ed Gein promoted recycling by using all that dead skin and human parts. I am sorry I have been so blind, I guess the whole "Native American genocide" thing made me forget about all those great things Columbus did.

When did I say we should forget the negative? Never did. However, it DOES seem the poster wants to completely ignnore the positive.

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: CorporateRecreation

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: CorporateRecreation

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: CorporateRecreation

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: CorporateRecreation

Originally posted by: BostonRedSox
Since my workplace decided to put up a huge picture of MLK because his day is Monday, I wonder if I make a big enough stink, they'll put up a picture of Christopher Columbus in October to honor his day, since I am Italian. Reverse political correctness, seems if it's good for one, it should be good for all.

MLK actually did something for this country... Columbus accidentaly ran into it and killed everyone in sight.

Wait.. now I'm getting a rolling eyes smile for the truth? This guy is amazing!

No, you get a rolleyes for oversimplifying the story with total focus and exaggeration of the negative.

I'm sorry, can you find a positive in the mass murder of Native Americans? I'd love to hear it.

There you go again. You focus on one single negative aspect of a much more complex story... and you judge it by 20th century ethics rather than the mindset of the time.

I still haven't heard your position on why you think a mass murderer deserves any recognition whatsoever and one positive thing that came out of his slaying of Native Americans. There is no complex story here buddy, he came to America, tried to convert everyone to his religion, they opposed, and they were killed. Who gives a fvck about 'the mindset' of the time. I suppose the holocaust was ok because the German 'mindset' was that Jews were the cause for all their problems. Sorry, next time I'll put on my brain handicapp before replying to you.

In his time, what he did was not considered wrong. In fact, it was considered noble. Now, I do not condone what he did, however, I am judging him with a 20th century mindset when I say this. You could not have found many, if any, Europeans protesting Columbus' actions back then, which means he was ethically correct IN HIS TIME. I'm sorry, the Hitler comparison does not fly. Hitler's actions were NOT ethically correct in his time. The rest of the western world was instantly horrified by Hitler's actions. Columbus' contemporaries did NOT condemn his actions.

He discovered AND opened up the New World to the old a hundred or more years earlier than it would have happened had he not made such a bold move. THAT deserves recognition.

 

[MaxDepth]

On St Patty's day, I want them to hang a picture of a pint of Guinness or Harp in your office.

make it all "pc" and stuff.
😀

 

[tnitsuj]

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: CorporateRecreation

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: CorporateRecreation

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: CorporateRecreation

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: CorporateRecreation

Originally posted by: BostonRedSox
Since my workplace decided to put up a huge picture of MLK because his day is Monday, I wonder if I make a big enough stink, they'll put up a picture of Christopher Columbus in October to honor his day, since I am Italian. Reverse political correctness, seems if it's good for one, it should be good for all.

MLK actually did something for this country... Columbus accidentaly ran into it and killed everyone in sight.

Wait.. now I'm getting a rolling eyes smile for the truth? This guy is amazing!

No, you get a rolleyes for oversimplifying the story with total focus and exaggeration of the negative.

I'm sorry, can you find a positive in the mass murder of Native Americans? I'd love to hear it.

There you go again. You focus on one single negative aspect of a much more complex story... and you judge it by 20th century ethics rather than the mindset of the time.

I still haven't heard your position on why you think a mass murderer deserves any recognition whatsoever and one positive thing that came out of his slaying of Native Americans. There is no complex story here buddy, he came to America, tried to convert everyone to his religion, they opposed, and they were killed. Who gives a fvck about 'the mindset' of the time. I suppose the holocaust was ok because the German 'mindset' was that Jews were the cause for all their problems. Sorry, next time I'll put on my brain handicapp before replying to you.

In his time, what he did was not considered wrong. In fact, it was considered noble. Now, I do not condone what he did, however, I am judging him with a 20th century mindset when I say this. You could not have found many, if any, Europeans protesting Columbus' actions back then, which means he was ethically correct IN HIS TIME. I'm sorry, the Hitler comparison does not fly. Hitler's actions were NOT ethically correct in his time. The rest of the western world was instantly horrified by Hitler's actions. Columbus' contemporaries did NOT condemn his actions.

He discovered AND opened up the New World to the old a hundred or more years earlier than it would have happened had he not made such a bold move. THAT deserves recognition.

In Columbuses time frame I am sure the natives he was wiping out thought what he was doing is wrong.

 

[Jzero]

Originally posted by: BostonRedSox
Since my workplace decided to put up a huge picture of MLK because his day is Monday, I wonder if I make a big enough stink, they'll put up a picture of Christopher Columbus in October to honor his day, since I am Italian. Reverse political correctness, seems if it's good for one, it should be good for all.

Columbus was Genovese, and was not sailing under the Italian flag. Why do people try to make him out to be an Italian hero?

Stick to Amerigo Vespucci. He was Italian, and the continent was named for him anyway.

 

[Frdm51472]

While we are generalizing, who cares, all native americans are drunks and junkies anyway! [/sarcasm]

 

[stormbv]

MLK gave his life for all of us. Why not worry about your own problems insteadof a picture on a friggin' wall.

 

[tnitsuj]

Why does seing MLK's picture offend you so much?

 

[Frdm51472]

All MLK did was stand up for what he believed in. Many people who have done that throughout the heritage of this country do not have their own holiday. That is where the contention that he is up there because he is black comes in. Personally I dont care, hey its a day off.

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: tnitsuj

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: CorporateRecreation

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: CorporateRecreation

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: CorporateRecreation

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: CorporateRecreation

Originally posted by: BostonRedSox
Since my workplace decided to put up a huge picture of MLK because his day is Monday, I wonder if I make a big enough stink, they'll put up a picture of Christopher Columbus in October to honor his day, since I am Italian. Reverse political correctness, seems if it's good for one, it should be good for all.

MLK actually did something for this country... Columbus accidentaly ran into it and killed everyone in sight.

Wait.. now I'm getting a rolling eyes smile for the truth? This guy is amazing!

No, you get a rolleyes for oversimplifying the story with total focus and exaggeration of the negative.

I'm sorry, can you find a positive in the mass murder of Native Americans? I'd love to hear it.

There you go again. You focus on one single negative aspect of a much more complex story... and you judge it by 20th century ethics rather than the mindset of the time.

I still haven't heard your position on why you think a mass murderer deserves any recognition whatsoever and one positive thing that came out of his slaying of Native Americans. There is no complex story here buddy, he came to America, tried to convert everyone to his religion, they opposed, and they were killed. Who gives a fvck about 'the mindset' of the time. I suppose the holocaust was ok because the German 'mindset' was that Jews were the cause for all their problems. Sorry, next time I'll put on my brain handicapp before replying to you.

In his time, what he did was not considered wrong. In fact, it was considered noble. Now, I do not condone what he did, however, I am judging him with a 20th century mindset when I say this. You could not have found many, if any, Europeans protesting Columbus' actions back then, which means he was ethically correct IN HIS TIME. I'm sorry, the Hitler comparison does not fly. Hitler's actions were NOT ethically correct in his time. The rest of the western world was instantly horrified by Hitler's actions. Columbus' contemporaries did NOT condemn his actions.

He discovered AND opened up the New World to the old a hundred or more years earlier than it would have happened had he not made such a bold move. THAT deserves recognition.

In Columbuses time frame I am sure the natives he was wiping out thought what he was doing is wrong.

I'm sure they did... but at the same time, they had the same ethics he did. American Indians (they weren't native either) had been wiping each other out over land and religion for tens of thousands of years before Columbus got here. They were most certainly not the tree-hugging, peaceful hippy types the PC activists would have you believe.

And tell me, are all humans evil because we wiped out the Neanderthal? Or how far back does this 20th century mindset go when judging our ancestors?

 

[shuan24]

I dont see how Christopher Colombus is considered an hero. His motive was to go to Asia, trade some carpet and come back, only he was too lazy to go the normal route, and decided to take a shortcut. Big deal.

MLK's, on the otherhand, was to have racial equality and better mankind. Hardly a comparison.

The day will come when minorities will outnumber the current majority, and all of a sudden we're going to here a loud cry for MLK.

edit: typo *hear*

 

[Frdm51472]

Does it matter, minorities are exempt from being racist now, so they can pretty much walk all over people.

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: shuan24
I dont see how Christopher Colombus is considered an hero. His motive was to go to Asia, trade some carpet and come back, only he was too lazy to go the normal route, and decided to take a shortcut. Big deal.

You failed history, right? Columbus' actions and ideas for a new trade route were so revolutionary, he was considered mad by more than a few people for having them. Most thought he was sailing away to certain death.

 

[CT2TXtech]

Originally posted by: Frdm51472
Does it matter, minorities are exempt from being racist now, so they can pretty much walk all over people.

Damn rite, im a minority-and i hate all non blacks-yall all racist

 

[NetWareHead]

Originally posted by: Jzero

Originally posted by: BostonRedSox
Since my workplace decided to put up a huge picture of MLK because his day is Monday, I wonder if I make a big enough stink, they'll put up a picture of Christopher Columbus in October to honor his day, since I am Italian. Reverse political correctness, seems if it's good for one, it should be good for all.

Columbus was Genovese, and was not sailing under the Italian flag. Why do people try to make him out to be an Italian hero?

Stick to Amerigo Vespucci. He was Italian, and the continent was named for him anyway.

You might want to read over your history. "Italy" as a country did not exist until the mid 1800s when all the Italian states were unified. Genoa, Columbus' home land was one of these states. I'm Italian, not from Genoa but I still consider Columbus a national hero. As for Vespucci, he was from Firenze.

 

[Jzero]

Originally posted by: shuan24
I dont see how Christopher Colombus is considered an hero. His motive was to go to Asia, trade some carpet and come back, only he was too lazy to go the normal route, and decided to take a shortcut. Big deal.

I don't see why Charles Goodyear was a hero. He accidentally threw a piece of rubber gum into a stove and came up with a burnt material that would revolutize society.

Europe had been searching for years for a seaward route to the east. If you think they were being lazy, let me see you go from Spain to China and back on horseback.

His discovery, albeit accidental, changed the world.

 

[shuan24]

Originally posted by: Amused

You failed history, right? Columbus' actions and ideas for a new trade route were so revolutionary, he was considered mad by more than a few people for having them. Most thought he was sailing away to certain death.

I'm sorry, I fail to see how that benefits mankind.

 

[Jzero]

Originally posted by: NetWareHead

Originally posted by: Jzero

Originally posted by: BostonRedSox
Since my workplace decided to put up a huge picture of MLK because his day is Monday, I wonder if I make a big enough stink, they'll put up a picture of Christopher Columbus in October to honor his day, since I am Italian. Reverse political correctness, seems if it's good for one, it should be good for all.

Columbus was Genovese, and was not sailing under the Italian flag. Why do people try to make him out to be an Italian hero?

Stick to Amerigo Vespucci. He was Italian, and the continent was named for him anyway.

You might want to read over your history. "Italy" as a country did not exist until the mid 1800s when all the Italian states were unified. Genoa, Columbus' home land was one of these states. I'm Italian, not from Genoa but I still consider Columbus a national hero. As for Vespucci, he was from Firenze.

You're probably right about Vespucci.

I'm Italian, too. I don't need to manufacture heroes, though. That was my point.

 

[ShotgunSteven]

Originally posted by: stormbv
MLK gave his life for all of us. Why not worry about your own problems insteadof a picture on a friggin' wall.

You make it sound like he did it deliberately.

OMG, MLK died for our sins!

 

[Frdm51472]

Originally posted by: CT2TXtech

Originally posted by: Frdm51472
Does it matter, minorities are exempt from being racist now, so they can pretty much walk all over people.

Damn rite, im a minority-and i hate all non blacks-yall all racist

Hehe, see....

 

[Nitemare]

Columbus was at least the third guy to discover a land in which my people were already living. All he did was precipitate genocide on an entire civilization. f that's your hero then more power to you.

If you really wanted to get picky look at MLK's relationship with his wife and ask if you should celebrate that as well.

 

[Fausto]

Originally posted by: ShotgunSteve

Originally posted by: stormbv
MLK gave his life for all of us. Why not worry about your own problems insteadof a picture on a friggin' wall.

You make it sound like he did it deliberately.

OMG, MLK died for our sins!

He didn't "die for our sins" but he certainly died for his message. I'm sure he knew it was only a matter of time until somone made a serious attempt on his life given all the death threats and open hostility from those who disagreed with him.

 

[ShotgunSteven]

Originally posted by: Nitemare
If you really wanted to get picky look at MLK's relationship with his wife and ask if you should celebrate that as well.

Let's also celebrate the fact that he was a plagiarist, wheee!