Ok, I haven't built a PC in ages so I'm completly out of the loop with a lot of new developments and expectations.
I can't figure out the cooling requirements needed to overclock today's Quads and Duo's, and possibly the near future Wolfdale and Yorkfields.
I can find heaps of info on how to extreme overclock and whats needed, but I can't find anyone talking about the middle ground so much.
So I thought, I'll work backwards and you guys can tell me what I could reasonably clock my CPU too. Then from there, I can start weighing the effective cost (both in noise, trouble, price etc.) of OC'ing further. This is what I plan to buy:
Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600, 2.4GHz
Seagate SATAII 250GB 7200RPM 16mb
G.Skill F2-6400CL4D (1x2GB)
Geforce 8800 GT, 512MB
Asus P5E QuadCore X38 <--- Best rated board by here (Anandtech) that will support the new chips, and will fit a Ultra Extreme, without modification.
Antec P182 ATX <--- Just loved this case. I'm extremely happy with it.
Corsair HX-520 ATX
Samsung 20x OEM Black SATA (SH-S203B)
Logitech MX 620 (Cordless)
Logitech Media 600 (Corded)
Windows Vista Home Premium 64 bit
Thermalright Ultra 120 Extreme <--- Best cooler on the market, saw know reason not to get, though it did effect my motherboard choice (was originally going to get the Gigabyte DQ6)
Artic Silver 5
Scythe Flex 120mm SFF21F (1600 RPM) (for Heatsink) <--- Price was right ($30 Australian). Considered aand may change to a Panaflo Medium or a Scythe Ultra Kaze for more airflow/suction.
Scythe Slip Stream SY1225SL12M (1200 RPM) x 2 <--- Best dBA per CFM I could find, and has had some positive reviews. Considered 2 Panaflo High's here instead, plugged into a fan controller. Only thing was, by estimation, two Panaflo Highs, volted down to the lowest speed would be as loud as my stock Antec Tricools on High that came with my case. I find the Antec Tricools on high, pretty noticable noise wise.
Logitech X-240 2.1
Bolded the parts that apply to cooling.
That's the entire purchase. I already own the case (put my old system in it, while I'm waiting for January to come along and possibly buy the new Wolfdale/Yorkfield chips. I chose these parts both for price (Yate Loon fans cost the same as Scythes, in fact the Scythes are cheaper here), noise, and performance.
So the question is, if you had this identical system, what kind of clock would you try for with say a Q6600 or a E6850? What would you try with the new Wolfdale or Yorkfield chips? (I know it's pure speculation at this point, but I'm curious).
I'm not interested in managing a extreme overclock to be honest. I want this to be a painless, easy purchase and setup. I'd be happy with a stable modest clock.
Now let's throw a wrench in here. Let's factor in that you live in a warmer climate (I live in Brisbane, Australia at the moment) and you do not have A/C in your house. The only time I'd be playing during the hottest times, is on the weekends. Do you think the above would be enough at the clock you think it could get up to? If not, what clock would you try for then?
I'm not entirely convinced on the Quad cores for me. As if I can't clock them extremely high, I think I might be better off with a Duo that can reach higher speeds, at the same cooling requirements.
If you've settled on a modest clock speed, what would you change to get higher clocks? You can't change the case, and I can't go water =).
EDIT: Added some remarks about why I chose certain parts.
I can't figure out the cooling requirements needed to overclock today's Quads and Duo's, and possibly the near future Wolfdale and Yorkfields.
I can find heaps of info on how to extreme overclock and whats needed, but I can't find anyone talking about the middle ground so much.
So I thought, I'll work backwards and you guys can tell me what I could reasonably clock my CPU too. Then from there, I can start weighing the effective cost (both in noise, trouble, price etc.) of OC'ing further. This is what I plan to buy:
Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600, 2.4GHz
Seagate SATAII 250GB 7200RPM 16mb
G.Skill F2-6400CL4D (1x2GB)
Geforce 8800 GT, 512MB
Asus P5E QuadCore X38 <--- Best rated board by here (Anandtech) that will support the new chips, and will fit a Ultra Extreme, without modification.
Antec P182 ATX <--- Just loved this case. I'm extremely happy with it.
Corsair HX-520 ATX
Samsung 20x OEM Black SATA (SH-S203B)
Logitech MX 620 (Cordless)
Logitech Media 600 (Corded)
Windows Vista Home Premium 64 bit
Thermalright Ultra 120 Extreme <--- Best cooler on the market, saw know reason not to get, though it did effect my motherboard choice (was originally going to get the Gigabyte DQ6)
Artic Silver 5
Scythe Flex 120mm SFF21F (1600 RPM) (for Heatsink) <--- Price was right ($30 Australian). Considered aand may change to a Panaflo Medium or a Scythe Ultra Kaze for more airflow/suction.
Scythe Slip Stream SY1225SL12M (1200 RPM) x 2 <--- Best dBA per CFM I could find, and has had some positive reviews. Considered 2 Panaflo High's here instead, plugged into a fan controller. Only thing was, by estimation, two Panaflo Highs, volted down to the lowest speed would be as loud as my stock Antec Tricools on High that came with my case. I find the Antec Tricools on high, pretty noticable noise wise.
Logitech X-240 2.1
Bolded the parts that apply to cooling.
That's the entire purchase. I already own the case (put my old system in it, while I'm waiting for January to come along and possibly buy the new Wolfdale/Yorkfield chips. I chose these parts both for price (Yate Loon fans cost the same as Scythes, in fact the Scythes are cheaper here), noise, and performance.
So the question is, if you had this identical system, what kind of clock would you try for with say a Q6600 or a E6850? What would you try with the new Wolfdale or Yorkfield chips? (I know it's pure speculation at this point, but I'm curious).
I'm not interested in managing a extreme overclock to be honest. I want this to be a painless, easy purchase and setup. I'd be happy with a stable modest clock.
Now let's throw a wrench in here. Let's factor in that you live in a warmer climate (I live in Brisbane, Australia at the moment) and you do not have A/C in your house. The only time I'd be playing during the hottest times, is on the weekends. Do you think the above would be enough at the clock you think it could get up to? If not, what clock would you try for then?
I'm not entirely convinced on the Quad cores for me. As if I can't clock them extremely high, I think I might be better off with a Duo that can reach higher speeds, at the same cooling requirements.
If you've settled on a modest clock speed, what would you change to get higher clocks? You can't change the case, and I can't go water =).
EDIT: Added some remarks about why I chose certain parts.
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