Working a Union Job

[Wduaqnug]

with no seniority being last on the list sux, I am gonna get stuck with any schedule thats left. Gonna have sucky days off and probably night hours

 

[midwestfisherman]

Welcome to the real world!

 

[Yossarian]

your web site rocks.

 

[Colt45]

could be worse. you could be making minimum wage with no benefits.

unless your union sucks, then you still make minimum wage with no benefits.

 

[IGBT]

yup..got to pay yer dues. But over time you'll gain seinority and better days off/shift.

 

[Nebor]

Originally posted by: Colt45
could be worse. you could be making minimum wage with no benefits.

unless your union sucks, then you still make minimum wage with no benefits.

But pay part of your minimum wage to the union.

 

[Ronstang]

Originally posted by: Wduaqnug
with no seniority being last on the list sux, I am gonna get stuck with any schedule thats left. Gonna have sucky days off and probably night hours

And a side benefit that you forgot about is that no matter how hard you work or how much better you are than other workers the seniority is more important. Have fun and enjoy.

 

[Wduaqnug]

ronstang how is that a benefit??? that sux you cant advance no way, you cant be creative because all matters is seniority

 

[Nebor]

Originally posted by: Wduaqnug
ronstang how is that a benefit??? that sux you cant advance no way, you cant be creative because all matters is seniority

Unions are bad for America. That's his point. They corrupt the free market on labor.

 

[KK]

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: Wduaqnug
ronstang how is that a benefit??? that sux you cant advance no way, you cant be creative because all matters is seniority

Unions are bad for America. That's his point. They corrupt the free market on labor.

Unions don't want individuality, it's all about whats best for the union. Make's you feel like a pawn, huh?

 

[T2T III]

Originally posted by: Wduaqnug
ronstang how is that a benefit??? that sux you cant advance no way, you cant be creative because all matters is seniority

Well, if you stay there long enough, you'll be one of the senior members getting more options. Keep in mind that the senior folks that get first choice now, were young like you at one time and had to do the "scrubbing toilets" kind of work.

 

[Grouchyoldguy]

Originally posted by: KK

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: Wduaqnug
ronstang how is that a benefit??? that sux you cant advance no way, you cant be creative because all matters is seniority

Unions are bad for America. That's his point. They corrupt the free market on labor.

Unions don't want individuality, it's all about whats best for the union. Make's you feel like a pawn, huh?

Whats best for a union? Money of course. How does a union get more money?

 

[Wduaqnug]

I am telling union is all about making money, it doesnt give F about u

they try to find cheapest insurance with highest copayments and they dont defend right only in extreme cases when employer tries to fire or lay u off

 

[jemcam]

Originally posted by: Yossarian
your web site rocks.

HA HA!

 

[NL5]

Originally posted by: Wduaqnug
I am telling union is all about making money, it doesnt give F about u

they try to find cheapest insurance with highest copayments and they dont defend right only in extreme cases when employer tries to fire or lay u off

Does your union provide health insurance, or the company you work for?

 

[Freejack2]

I remember years ago when I was working in a retail store. It was required to join the union. I got no benefits from the union and I only made enough above minimum wage to cover the union dues that were automatically deducted from my check.
I understand and agree that in some places unions are necessary so that employers don't abuse the employees but come on if you're going to take dues from me at least DO SOMETHING! :|

 

[Geekbabe]

Originally posted by: Wduaqnug
with no seniority being last on the list sux, I am gonna get stuck with any schedule thats left. Gonna have sucky days off and probably night hours

Even in a non-union shop you'd have that problem. The last one in is always slated to work odd hours
and such.

 

[stnicralisk]

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: Wduaqnug
ronstang how is that a benefit??? that sux you cant advance no way, you cant be creative because all matters is seniority

Unions are bad for America. That's his point. They corrupt the free market on labor.

At this time they are bad for America. Dont forget that unions worked hard to make labor what it is today. Look at the industrialization of the north, labor was horrible and they were necessary.

 

[FlyLice]

Originally posted by: Grouchyoldguy

Originally posted by: KK

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: Wduaqnug
ronstang how is that a benefit??? that sux you cant advance no way, you cant be creative because all matters is seniority

Unions are bad for America. That's his point. They corrupt the free market on labor.

Unions don't want individuality, it's all about whats best for the union. Make's you feel like a pawn, huh?

Whats best for a union? Money of course. How does a union get more money?

unions are teh evil

 

[Stark]

one of the best things about being in IS is not having to worry about union BS

 

[Red Dawn]

Trade Unions rock, especially the Carpenters!

 

[NL5]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Trade Unions rock, especially the Carpenters!

I am a member of the carpenters union........sorda.

 

[ArmchairAthlete]

You are probably lucky...

Where my dad works, people get paid like $15 an hour for stuff that might be closer to minimum wage with no union (basic stuff most anybody could probably do). It's very hard to punish people who are lazy/late/etc too.

 

[redly]

time to start killing your senior union members

 

[Squisher]

I'm a union member here in Detroit

I can't say I'm a big fan of unions as a whole, but I have reaped benefits by being a union member that I cannot deny.

Such as:
A means by which grievances can be hammered out.

I'm paid very well and have excellent benefits.

The same senority that is your downfall is protecting me somewhat here in the last years of my employment.


The lack of an incentive to excel at your job, that is the nature of a union, has been somewhat replaced by the impending loss of all of our jobs if we don't perform up to rest of the world. Sometimes this gets lost on many individuals.