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KK

Lifer
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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: KK
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: her209
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
They didn't really win, but they do get the money that they are owed.
Glad they did.

Wouldn't the creditors be the first in line to get money back when a company has to liquidate its assets?

A lot of these companies are not filing bankruptcy.

What they are doing is folding up here and moving to places like Thailand.

How come no one pays any attention in here?

Name one company that completely folded up and moved to thailand. I'll not be expecting an answer.

DOW Chemical

Nope. still here.
 

alchemize

Lifer
Mar 24, 2000
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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: KK
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: her209
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
They didn't really win, but they do get the money that they are owed.
Glad they did.

Wouldn't the creditors be the first in line to get money back when a company has to liquidate its assets?

A lot of these companies are not filing bankruptcy.

What they are doing is folding up here and moving to places like Thailand.

How come no one pays any attention in here?

Name one company that completely folded up and moved to thailand. I'll not be expecting an answer.

DOW Chemical
McOwned again.

Pittsburg workers spared in Dow Chemical job cuts

 

Capt Caveman

Lifer
Jan 30, 2005
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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: KK
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: her209
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
They didn't really win, but they do get the money that they are owed.
Glad they did.

Wouldn't the creditors be the first in line to get money back when a company has to liquidate its assets?

A lot of these companies are not filing bankruptcy.

What they are doing is folding up here and moving to places like Thailand.

How come no one pays any attention in here?

Name one company that completely folded up and moved to thailand. I'll not be expecting an answer.

DOW Chemical

Wrong again. Lying and making-up stuff is not appreciated.
 

dmcowen674

No Lifer
Oct 13, 1999
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Originally posted by: alchemize
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: KK
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: her209
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
They didn't really win, but they do get the money that they are owed.
Glad they did.

Wouldn't the creditors be the first in line to get money back when a company has to liquidate its assets?

A lot of these companies are not filing bankruptcy.

What they are doing is folding up here and moving to places like Thailand.

How come no one pays any attention in here?

Name one company that completely folded up and moved to thailand. I'll not be expecting an answer.

DOW Chemical
McOwned again.

Pittsburg workers spared in Dow Chemical job cuts

Many have not been "spared". They have closed plants all over the country and thousands of Americans have lost their jobs.

Why do you hate America and fellow Americans?

You should leave since you hate them and it so much.
 

KentState

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Oct 19, 2001
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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: alchemize
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: KK
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: her209
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
They didn't really win, but they do get the money that they are owed.
Glad they did.

Wouldn't the creditors be the first in line to get money back when a company has to liquidate its assets?

A lot of these companies are not filing bankruptcy.

What they are doing is folding up here and moving to places like Thailand.

How come no one pays any attention in here?

Name one company that completely folded up and moved to thailand. I'll not be expecting an answer.

DOW Chemical
McOwned again.

Pittsburg workers spared in Dow Chemical job cuts

Many have not been "spared". They have closed plants all over the country and thousands of Americans have lost their jobs.

Why do you hate America and fellow Americans?

You should leave since you hate them and it so much.

Wait, he asks you to provide an example. You do provide one, but it's invalid and yet you can't man up to that fact and starting calling him names?
 

alchemize

Lifer
Mar 24, 2000
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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: alchemize
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: KK
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: her209
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
They didn't really win, but they do get the money that they are owed.
Glad they did.

Wouldn't the creditors be the first in line to get money back when a company has to liquidate its assets?

A lot of these companies are not filing bankruptcy.

What they are doing is folding up here and moving to places like Thailand.

How come no one pays any attention in here?

Name one company that completely folded up and moved to thailand. I'll not be expecting an answer.

DOW Chemical
McOwned again.

Pittsburg workers spared in Dow Chemical job cuts

Many have not been "spared". They have closed plants all over the country and thousands of Americans have lost their jobs.

Why do you hate America and fellow Americans?

You should leave since you hate them and it so much.
That your best comeback after being McOwned again?

I'm gainfully employed full time by a great company, probably paying more in taxes than you even earn. You're a loser ex-con who can't even hold onto a job, a wife, an investment, a business deal...looking for handouts on internet forums. I'm the backbone of America, you're the stench in the armpit. I'm a future asset of America, you're the future (and present) liability. You call yourself the most educated person on the internet, when you don't even have a college degree and I'd wager you're borderline retarded on an IQ test. So I'm not going anywhere, but I could provide 100's of reasons why you should GTFO. Shall we continue?
 

nobodyknows

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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: nobodyknows
Originally posted by: palehorse
Originally posted by: nobodyknows
Originally posted by: Slew Foot
What was it called the last time banks were forced to make loans to people who couldnt pay them back? The subprime crisis? You really want to tread down there again?

If employers don't have to pay their employees what's owed them under the law then it won't be long before you and everyone else wouldn't be able to make their house payments.
What does that have to do with their salaries wrongfully becoming the banks' responsibilities?!

Maybe I'm misunderstanding your point, but you need to realize that banks (BoA) are under no legal or moral obligation, whatsoever, to a) lend money to Company X, or b) pay the salaries and vacation of the laid off workers of Company X.

From the very beginning of this "sit-in," the workers' angst has been directed at the wrong party. BoA is not to blame for the failure of any company they have, or turn away, as customers.

You have a point. The workers should go after the family that owns the business, they're the ones who screwed the workers over. How far do you think they would get?

Since the owners are the ones who broke the law how about the BoA make sure the workers get paid what the law prescribes and then they can go after the owners and their property.... with the help of the US Goverment.... or aren't you concerned with the plight of these 200 American familes?

http://www.chicagotribune.com/...0dec10,0,2597497.story

They will as well as the "investment institutions" you guys hold so dear.

I'm not sure what you meant.... hell I'm not sure YOU even know what you meant, but I have no problem with holding wrong doers accountable for their wrongdoing. I don't care who or where.
 

dmcowen674

No Lifer
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They weren't 110% screwed over as was originally intended by the Corporation and banks

12-11-2008 Chicago workers end sit-in at closed factory

CHICAGO ? With cheers and chants that echoed President-elect Barack Obama's campaign of change, jubilant workers agreed to a $1.75 million settlement that ends their six-day occupation of a shuttered Chicago factory that became a symbol of the plight of labor nationwide.

Republic Windows & Doors, union leaders and Bank of America reached the deal Wednesday evening. Each former Republic employee will get eight weeks' salary, all accrued vacation pay and two months' paid health care, said U.S. Rep. Luis Gutierrez, who helped broker the deal. He said it works out to about $7,000 apiece.

"We lost the jobs but we got something," said Lalo Munoz, who worked at the plant for 24 years.

About 200 of 240 laid-off workers began their sit-in last week after Republic gave them just three days' notice the plant was closing. The workers had argued that Republic violated federal law because employees were not given 60 days' notice. They vowed to stay until they received assurances they would get severance and accrued vacation pay.

Workers carrying sleeping bags left the factory late Wednesday amid cheers of "Yes We Can," a slogan that became part of Obama's campaign.

Gutierrez, an Illinois Democrat, said $1.75 million will go into an escrow account for the workers, $1.35 million of which came from Bank of America in the form of a loan to Republic.

New York-based JPMorgan Chase & Co. pledged $400,000 to use strictly for the protesting employees, Gutierrez said.

The workers are "very, very satisfied" with the agreement, said Mark Meinster of the United Electrical Workers union, which represents the employees.

"Hopefully this is an example for workers across the country that when things like this happen, you can step up, you can speak out, and you can win," he said.

"This money is not, under any circumstance, to be used for corporate bonuses, luxury cars or any other perk for the owners of the plant," Gutierrez said in a statement.

Republic officials did not return messages Wednesday from The Associated Press. Messages left seeking further details from JPMorgan Chase were also not returned.
 

KK

Lifer
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how is the company going to pay off the loan if they aren't manufacturing any products?
 

Falloutboy

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unfortionally a way alot of businesses operate is on an operating loan, they don't use there own money, all the actual assets of the company are held outside the company so when the company goes belly up or is sued there is nothing there and the owners get to walk away with the profits.
 

Acanthus

Lifer
Aug 28, 2001
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Originally posted by: her209
Why is Bank of America getting a bailout when they just purchased Countrywide for $4B

Dont forget that PNC got a bailout after purchasing National City.

JPMC got one too...