Woot! Take it RIAA

Brentx

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Ok so if some of you have been following what the RIAA has been doing recently, they are targeting universities around the nation. They are especially targeting residence halls around the state of Wisconsin in universities.

Now recently, they targeted Madison, and gave them a list of settlements to send out to students. UW-Madison refused to give these handouts to students unless they included a subpeona, because they do not beleive what the RIAA is doing is right.

So fast forward to today. I go to Univeristy of Wisconsin - Milwaukee, and they are going to do the same!!! This is awesome, as they are the second UW school to refuse the RIAA settlement letters. I belive UW- Ean Claire and La Crosse handed them out :(. Either way, UW-Milwaukee is almost as big as Madison, so they were a larger target I'm sure.

Here is the letter I got in my e-mail in full:

SUBJECT: Illegal File Sharing at UWM

This announcement is being sent to all known UWM faculty, staff and
student e-mail addresses.

The Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA) has recently
increased its threat of lawsuits against students and others who engage
in illegal digital file sharing. This is in response to perceived
violations of the Digital Millennium Copyright Act of 1998, which
specifically addresses copyright infringement of digital materials such
as music, movies and software.

As you may know from recent press reports, the RIAA is now targeting
individuals who live in university residence halls or use university
computing resources. Because the RIAA can only identify violators by
their ISP (Internet Service Provider) identifier, they are sending
letters to universities requesting that these letters be forwarded to
students, faculty and staff.

The RIAA notified UWM of its plans to send settlement proposal letters
for individuals on the UWM campus whom they believe are guilty of
violating federal copyright laws. These letters request that a monetary
settlement be made by the violator in lieu of court action by the RIAA.

After consultation with UW System, our own legal counsel and with our
understanding of federal law, UWM has decided that these letters will
not be passed on to individuals. However, should RIAA send UWM a lawful
subpoena for users? account information, UWM will comply.

It is important to be aware of copyright law and avoid illegal P2P
(peer-to-peer) file sharing.

For more information, visit the UWM Information Security Web Site at
<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="https://www3.uwm.edu/imt/security/index.cfm">https://www3.uwm.edu/imt/security/index.cfm</a>.

If you have questions, please e-mail dmca@uwm.edu.


Take it RIAA.. were done with your nonsense. And yes kids should stop downloading illegal music, as not only is it ripping the ARTIST (not the Record Label) off, and it slows the network down considerably. I believe students should purchase their music wether it have DRM (shudders) or wether it be on a CD. I do the latter personally.
 

compuwiz1

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Originally posted by: Brentx
Ok so if some of you have been following what the RIAA has been doing recently, they are targeting universities around the nation. They are especially targeting residence halls around the state of Wisconsin in universities.

Now recently, they targeted Madison, and gave them a list of settlements to send out to students. UW-Madison refused to give these handouts to students unless they included a subpeona, because they do not beleive what the RIAA is doing is right.

So fast forward to today. I go to Univeristy of Wisconsin - Milwaukee, and they are going to do the same!!! This is awesome, as they are the second UW school to refuse the RIAA settlement letters. I belive UW- Ean Claire and La Crosse handed them out :(. Either way, UW-Milwaukee is almost as big as Madison, so they were a larger target I'm sure.

Here is the letter I got in my e-mail in full:

SUBJECT: Illegal File Sharing at UWM

This announcement is being sent to all known UWM faculty, staff and
student e-mail addresses.

The Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA) has recently
increased its threat of lawsuits against students and others who engage
in illegal digital file sharing. This is in response to perceived
violations of the Digital Millennium Copyright Act of 1998, which
specifically addresses copyright infringement of digital materials such
as music, movies and software.

As you may know from recent press reports, the RIAA is now targeting
individuals who live in university residence halls or use university
computing resources. Because the RIAA can only identify violators by
their ISP (Internet Service Provider) identifier, they are sending
letters to universities requesting that these letters be forwarded to
students, faculty and staff.

The RIAA notified UWM of its plans to send settlement proposal letters
for individuals on the UWM campus whom they believe are guilty of
violating federal copyright laws. These letters request that a monetary
settlement be made by the violator in lieu of court action by the RIAA.

After consultation with UW System, our own legal counsel and with our
understanding of federal law, UWM has decided that these letters will
not be passed on to individuals. However, should RIAA send UWM a lawful
subpoena for users? account information, UWM will comply.

It is important to be aware of copyright law and avoid illegal P2P
(peer-to-peer) file sharing.

For more information, visit the UWM Information Security Web Site at
<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="https://www3.uwm.edu/imt/security/index.cfm"><a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="https://www3.uwm.edu/imt/security/index.cfm">https://www3.uwm.edu/imt/security/index.cfm</a></a>.

If you have questions, please e-mail dmca@uwm.edu.


Take it RIAA.. were done with your nonsense. And yes kids should stop downloading illegal music, as not only is it ripping the ARTIST (not the Record Label) off, and it slows the network down considerably. I believe students should purchase their music wether it have DRM (shudders) or wether it be on a CD. I do the latter personally.

You're not out of the woods yet, tiger, so I wouldn't take this as a Hall Pass. ;)

 

foghorn67

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Originally posted by: compuwiz1
Originally posted by: Brentx
Ok so if some of you have been following what the RIAA has been doing recently, they are targeting universities around the nation. They are especially targeting residence halls around the state of Wisconsin in universities.

Now recently, they targeted Madison, and gave them a list of settlements to send out to students. UW-Madison refused to give these handouts to students unless they included a subpeona, because they do not beleive what the RIAA is doing is right.

So fast forward to today. I go to Univeristy of Wisconsin - Milwaukee, and they are going to do the same!!! This is awesome, as they are the second UW school to refuse the RIAA settlement letters. I belive UW- Ean Claire and La Crosse handed them out :(. Either way, UW-Milwaukee is almost as big as Madison, so they were a larger target I'm sure.

Here is the letter I got in my e-mail in full:

SUBJECT: Illegal File Sharing at UWM

This announcement is being sent to all known UWM faculty, staff and
student e-mail addresses.

The Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA) has recently
increased its threat of lawsuits against students and others who engage
in illegal digital file sharing. This is in response to perceived
violations of the Digital Millennium Copyright Act of 1998, which
specifically addresses copyright infringement of digital materials such
as music, movies and software.

As you may know from recent press reports, the RIAA is now targeting
individuals who live in university residence halls or use university
computing resources. Because the RIAA can only identify violators by
their ISP (Internet Service Provider) identifier, they are sending
letters to universities requesting that these letters be forwarded to
students, faculty and staff.

The RIAA notified UWM of its plans to send settlement proposal letters
for individuals on the UWM campus whom they believe are guilty of
violating federal copyright laws. These letters request that a monetary
settlement be made by the violator in lieu of court action by the RIAA.

After consultation with UW System, our own legal counsel and with our
understanding of federal law, UWM has decided that these letters will
not be passed on to individuals. However, should RIAA send UWM a lawful
subpoena for users? account information, UWM will comply.

It is important to be aware of copyright law and avoid illegal P2P
(peer-to-peer) file sharing.

For more information, visit the UWM Information Security Web Site at
<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="https://www3.uwm.edu/imt/security/index.cfm"><a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="https://www3.uwm.edu/imt/security/index.cfm"><a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="https://www3.uwm.edu/imt/security/index.cfm">https://www3.uwm.edu/imt/security/index.cfm</a></a></a>.

If you have questions, please e-mail dmca@uwm.edu.


Take it RIAA.. were done with your nonsense. And yes kids should stop downloading illegal music, as not only is it ripping the ARTIST (not the Record Label) off, and it slows the network down considerably. I believe students should purchase their music wether it have DRM (shudders) or wether it be on a CD. I do the latter personally.

You're not out of the woods yet, tiger, so I wouldn't take this as a Hall Pass. ;)
Yes, he is out of the woods. ;)
 

BD2003

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Originally posted by: compuwiz1
Originally posted by: Brentx
Ok so if some of you have been following what the RIAA has been doing recently, they are targeting universities around the nation. They are especially targeting residence halls around the state of Wisconsin in universities.

Now recently, they targeted Madison, and gave them a list of settlements to send out to students. UW-Madison refused to give these handouts to students unless they included a subpeona, because they do not beleive what the RIAA is doing is right.

So fast forward to today. I go to Univeristy of Wisconsin - Milwaukee, and they are going to do the same!!! This is awesome, as they are the second UW school to refuse the RIAA settlement letters. I belive UW- Ean Claire and La Crosse handed them out :(. Either way, UW-Milwaukee is almost as big as Madison, so they were a larger target I'm sure.

Here is the letter I got in my e-mail in full:

SUBJECT: Illegal File Sharing at UWM

This announcement is being sent to all known UWM faculty, staff and
student e-mail addresses.

The Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA) has recently
increased its threat of lawsuits against students and others who engage
in illegal digital file sharing. This is in response to perceived
violations of the Digital Millennium Copyright Act of 1998, which
specifically addresses copyright infringement of digital materials such
as music, movies and software.

As you may know from recent press reports, the RIAA is now targeting
individuals who live in university residence halls or use university
computing resources. Because the RIAA can only identify violators by
their ISP (Internet Service Provider) identifier, they are sending
letters to universities requesting that these letters be forwarded to
students, faculty and staff.

The RIAA notified UWM of its plans to send settlement proposal letters
for individuals on the UWM campus whom they believe are guilty of
violating federal copyright laws. These letters request that a monetary
settlement be made by the violator in lieu of court action by the RIAA.

After consultation with UW System, our own legal counsel and with our
understanding of federal law, UWM has decided that these letters will
not be passed on to individuals. However, should RIAA send UWM a lawful
subpoena for users? account information, UWM will comply.

It is important to be aware of copyright law and avoid illegal P2P
(peer-to-peer) file sharing.

For more information, visit the UWM Information Security Web Site at
<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="https://www3.uwm.edu/imt/security/index.cfm"><a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="https://www3.uwm.edu/imt/security/index.cfm"><a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="https://www3.uwm.edu/imt/security/index.cfm">https://www3.uwm.edu/imt/security/index.cfm</a></a></a>.

If you have questions, please e-mail dmca@uwm.edu.


Take it RIAA.. were done with your nonsense. And yes kids should stop downloading illegal music, as not only is it ripping the ARTIST (not the Record Label) off, and it slows the network down considerably. I believe students should purchase their music wether it have DRM (shudders) or wether it be on a CD. I do the latter personally.

You're not out of the woods yet, tiger, so I wouldn't take this as a Hall Pass. ;)

Yeah, he is. The RIAA isnt going to subpoena anyone. Theyre just extortionists. Any time someone takes them on face to face, they back down.
 

smack Down

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Yeah, he is. The RIAA isnt going to subpoena anyone. Theyre just extortionists. Any time someone takes them on face to face, they back down.

The RIAA has already subpoena many people. Why do you think they would stop now?
 

DarkThinker

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Originally posted by: smack Down
Yeah, he is. The RIAA isnt going to subpoena anyone. Theyre just extortionists. Any time someone takes them on face to face, they back down.

The RIAA has already subpoena many people. Why do you think they would stop now?


Because he is out of the woods?:confused:

DarkThinker
 

ForumMaster

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basically, they're saying that they won't hand out the names, but if they find you doing it specifically, they'll cooperate as they don't want to get sued. this is my understanding of it. it's not a hall pass and copyright infrigment is illegal. it simply tells you that you shouldn't do it.
 

jjones

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Originally posted by: ForumMaster
basically, they're saying that they won't hand out the names, but if they find you doing it specifically, they'll cooperate as they don't want to get sued. this is my understanding of it. it's not a hall pass and P2P is illegal. it simply tells you that you shouldn't do it.
As much as the RIAA would like to mak eit illegal, P2P is not illegal, copyright infringement is.

I know that's probably what you meant but the distinction is important because if random comments like these become accepted, then soon it will be illegal.

 

ForumMaster

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Originally posted by: jjones
Originally posted by: ForumMaster
basically, they're saying that they won't hand out the names, but if they find you doing it specifically, they'll cooperate as they don't want to get sued. this is my understanding of it. it's not a hall pass and P2P is illegal. it simply tells you that you shouldn't do it.
As much as the RIAA would like to make it illegal, P2P is not illegal, copyright infringement is.

I know that's probably what you meant but the distinction is important because if random comments like these become accepted, then soon it will be illegal.

you're right. my mistake. corrected my post.
 

ryan256

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We had a very simple solution to all the kazaa and bit torrent troubles at the campus I used to work at. We added a rule to a net appliance to throttle all P2P traffic down to 10kbps for the entire campus! After that P2P traffic suddenly died out.
 

alkemyst

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Originally posted by: ryan256
We had a very simple solution to all the kazaa and bit torrent troubles at the campus I used to work at. We added a rule to a net appliance to throttle all P2P traffic down to 10kbps for the entire campus! After that P2P traffic suddenly died out.

net nazi?

P2P is a legitimate product....you basically censored across the board.

I am not saying it's not a problem on a LAN as bandwidth in large campuses becomes a nightmare if you let them do anything they want (I am from a fortune 400 company, we simply can't even buy the bandwidth we would need to let our associates do whatever they wanted).

Personally I would have *tried* to spend more time on a better solution.

I don't believe in censorship, I don't believe in the music industry though. iTunes and single song downloads solved that for me.
 

adairusmc

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Originally posted by: ryan256
We had a very simple solution to all the kazaa and bit torrent troubles at the campus I used to work at. We added a rule to a net appliance to throttle all P2P traffic down to 10kbps for the entire campus! After that P2P traffic suddenly died out.

We do the same thing at my company to all of our broadband customers, but we limit it to 36kbit.
 

Oakenfold

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Originally posted by: alkemyst
Originally posted by: ryan256
We had a very simple solution to all the kazaa and bit torrent troubles at the campus I used to work at. We added a rule to a net appliance to throttle all P2P traffic down to 10kbps for the entire campus! After that P2P traffic suddenly died out.

net nazi?

P2P is a legitimate product....you basically censored across the board.

I am not saying it's not a problem on a LAN as bandwidth in large campuses becomes a nightmare if you let them do anything they want (I am from a fortune 400 company, we simply can't even buy the bandwidth we would need to let our associates do whatever they wanted).

Personally I would have *tried* to spend more time on a better solution.

I don't believe in censorship, I don't believe in the music industry though. iTunes and single song downloads solved that for me.

I disagree, I hardly think that the network group for a university making a decision to curb p2p traffic to improve available bandwidth for all is considered a "net nazi". In addition I fail to see where Ryan256 stated that P2P was not a legitmate application, it may just be that management of the network does not want to utilize available resources on P2P applications.
 

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Originally posted by: Brentx
And yes kids should stop downloading illegal music, as not only is it ripping the ARTIST (not the Record Label) off

:confused: You have no idea what you're talking about.