wOOt! (Reagan CBS travesty yanked)

[dahunan]

http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview...hreadid=1176806&enterthread=y&arctab=y

Hmm...

 

[Whoozyerdaddy]

Yeah... if you dig back through that ABC 9/11 thread you'll see that I brought this up already.

Edit: Found it for ya... My comments are at the end of the quote.

Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy

Originally posted by: EXman

Originally posted by: Corn

Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Well it now seems that the Democrats are sending a letter theatening Disney's broadcast license if they air this movie.

Here it is straight from a nice left wing blog so you can't accuse me of being biased.

"Senate Democratic leadership threatens Disney with legal and legislative sanctions
This letter was sent today by the entire Democratic leadership of the US Senate. This letter is such a major shot across the bow of Disney, it's not even funny. It is FILLED with veiled threats, both legal and legislative, against Disney. US Senators don't make threats like this, especially the entire Democratic leadership en masse, unless they mean it. Disney is in serious trouble.

<text of letter here>

The Senate Democratic leadership just threatened Disney's broadcast license. Not the use of the word "trustee" at the beginning of the letter and "trust" at the end. This is nothing less than an implicit threat that if Disney tries to meddle in the US elections on behalf of the Republicans, they will pay a very serious price when the Democrats get back in power, or even before."

Does anyone not see this as a problem? We have gone from "we don't like your movie" to "we are going to take away your license if you air this movie"

And people say that Bush is a threat to out freedoms? When has Bush threatened the New York Time, ABC, CBS or NBC for say things about him they don't like?



http://americablog.blogspot.com/2006/09...e-democratic-leadership-threatens.html

LOL, I guess the liberati loves censorship after all! How sweet.

Rights are only for people they agree with. Clintonians are pissed and getting this thing revised... Think that ever happen if the shoe was on the other foot? not a chance!

Remember people If it is based on 9-11 commission reports to some degree there are probably some details that are factual. Not saying the movie is all fact but to insist that every scene is made up with no merit to actual events is just plain ignorant. I'd bet you agree that some of the scalding scenes with President Bush might have some merit.

The problem with America is that many don't believe anything until they see it on TV then they think it is fact.

Actually it has happened. Republicans threw such a fit over "The Reagans" that CBS pulled it altogether. IIRC it wound up on Showtime for a couple of weeks.

Point is, what's happening is not a situation where the "liberal media" is cowing to its own. When they produce a political piece of crap that pisses off half the country (doesn't matter which half) they are going to cave if enough pressure is applied.

 

[dahunan]

Weren't historians and others pissed off about much of the 9-11 report being hidden from us and the political makeup of the members of the commission?

 

[Whoozyerdaddy]

Originally posted by: dahunan
Weren't historians and others pissed off about much of the 9-11 report being hidden from us and the political makeup of the members of the commission?

What does that have to do with "The Reagans?"

 

[LEDominator]

Originally posted by: dahunan
Weren't historians and others pissed off about much of the 9-11 report being hidden from us and the political makeup of the members of the commission?

Some historians were but most were fine with the commission report. What should the political make up matter. It was bipartisan.

 

[dahunan]

Originally posted by: LEDominator

Originally posted by: dahunan
Weren't historians and others pissed off about much of the 9-11 report being hidden from us and the political makeup of the members of the commission?

Some historians were but most were fine with the commission report. What should the political make up matter. It was bipartisan.

How does one spot a true republican or democrat nowadays with people like Lieberman and McCain out there?

 

[ScottyB]

Did the movie not portray them as big of douche bags as they really are/were?

 

[LEDominator]

Originally posted by: dahunan

Originally posted by: LEDominator

Originally posted by: dahunan
Weren't historians and others pissed off about much of the 9-11 report being hidden from us and the political makeup of the members of the commission?

Some historians were but most were fine with the commission report. What should the political make up matter. It was bipartisan.

How does one spot a true republican or democrat nowadays with people like Lieberman and McCain out there?

True, but I'd rather have people be non-partisan and work towards some type of progress than simply tow the party line and refuse to even acknowledge a good idea from the other side.

 

[judasmachine]

we all should just turn off our TVs, and make independant bipartisan news networks ourselves. we cannot trust the liberal media, or the conservative media. i think it's time for a real revolution in media, and i don't mean the amatuer blogoshpere pundentry either.

 

[conehead433]

Well when they use living people and make claims that they said or did this or that they (ABC) open themselves up to lawsuits for defamation of character, etc.. I can't believe that they would actually go through with this broadcast knowing such inaccuracies exist.

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Originally posted by: dahunan
How does one spot a true republican or democrat nowadays with people like Lieberman and McCain out there?

I don't know what you're referring to, when it comes to McCain. He has one of the most conservative voting records in the Senate. He's certainly much more a Republican in the traditional sense than is President Bush.

 

[dmcowen674]

Disgusting

Which will the U.S. be renamed to first, China West or Unistados De Mexico

 

[DealMonkey]

If only Nitemare were around to respond to this:

Democrats finally prevented from spreading vicious lies as the truth...

And Merry Go Round and round

 

[LEDominator]

Originally posted by: conehead433
Well when they use living people and make claims that they said or did this or that they (ABC) open themselves up to lawsuits for defamation of character, etc.. I can't believe that they would actually go through with this broadcast knowing such inaccuracies exist.

Anything made for TV has innacuracies.

 

[miketheidiot]

Originally posted by: LEDominator

Originally posted by: conehead433
Well when they use living people and make claims that they said or did this or that they (ABC) open themselves up to lawsuits for defamation of character, etc.. I can't believe that they would actually go through with this broadcast knowing such inaccuracies exist.

Anything made for TV is a blatant lie for ratings.

fixed.

 

[LEDominator]

Originally posted by: miketheidiot

Originally posted by: LEDominator

Originally posted by: conehead433
Well when they use living people and make claims that they said or did this or that they (ABC) open themselves up to lawsuits for defamation of character, etc.. I can't believe that they would actually go through with this broadcast knowing such inaccuracies exist.

Anything made for TV is a blatant lie for ratings.

fixed.

lol, I guess. But its nothing new. It is like the movie about the JFK assasination. People believe all the stuff in there yet it is actually quite easily debunked. Same thing.

 

[BaliBabyDoc]

Originally posted by: DonVito

Originally posted by: dahunan
How does one spot a true republican or democrat nowadays with people like Lieberman and McCain out there?

I don't know what you're referring to, when it comes to McCain. He has one of the most conservative voting records in the Senate. He's certainly much more a Republican in the traditional sense than is President Bush.

Ain't that the truth! If the Democrats take the House and Senate, I would love to vote for McCain . . . assuming Hagel isn't available.

 

[ProfJohn]

1. Look at this quote from CBS made during the announcement to move the movie to Showtime: "We believe it does not present a balanced portrayal of the Reagans for CBS and its audience,"
So CBS admitted itself that the film was not a fair portrayal of events.

CBS President Leslie Moonves, who accepted responsibility for the cancellation, said it was based solely on the merits?actually, the lack of merit?of the miniseries, in which, conservatives complained, Reagan was wrongly portrayed as a doddering gay-basher whose wife, Nancy, pulled all the strings.
"As a broadcast network, we feel [CBS is] a public trust," the New Haven Register reported Moonves telling Yale students last Wednesday. "We have a news division. We have to be fair in what we show, and a pay-cable network can be a little more biased in what they show. It can be an opinion piece. We can't do that."

I think Mooves just admited that CBS Reagan show was indeed biased.

2. Look at the Democrat response after CBS yanked the series:

Senate Minority leader Tom Daschle later called the decision to pull the show "appalling." CBS "totally collapsed," he told National Public Radio.

Actress/singer and liberal activist Barbra Streisand, whose husband James Brolin portrays Reagan in the miniseries, said CBS "caved" to "an organized Republican spin machine." Indeed, Fox News Channel top talk host, conservative Bill O'Reilly, gave heavy coverage to the controversy, but it was The New York Times that first tipped readers to the tone of the docudrama.

So now the Democrats are trying to do the same thing to the ABC show that they all complained about when it happened to the CBS show. If that isn't hypocrisy I don't know what is.

 

[dahunan]

Originally posted by: ProfJohn
1. Look at this quote from CBS made during the announcement to move the movie to Showtime: "We believe it does not present a balanced portrayal of the Reagans for CBS and its audience,"
So CBS admitted itself that the film was not a fair portrayal of events.

CBS President Leslie Moonves, who accepted responsibility for the cancellation, said it was based solely on the merits?actually, the lack of merit?of the miniseries, in which, conservatives complained, Reagan was wrongly portrayed as a doddering gay-basher whose wife, Nancy, pulled all the strings.
"As a broadcast network, we feel [CBS is] a public trust," the New Haven Register reported Moonves telling Yale students last Wednesday. "We have a news division. We have to be fair in what we show, and a pay-cable network can be a little more biased in what they show. It can be an opinion piece. We can't do that."

I think Mooves just admited that CBS Reagan show was indeed biased.

2. Look at the Democrat response after CBS yanked the series:

Senate Minority leader Tom Daschle later called the decision to pull the show "appalling." CBS "totally collapsed," he told National Public Radio.

Actress/singer and liberal activist Barbra Streisand, whose husband James Brolin portrays Reagan in the miniseries, said CBS "caved" to "an organized Republican spin machine." Indeed, Fox News Channel top talk host, conservative Bill O'Reilly, gave heavy coverage to the controversy, but it was The New York Times that first tipped readers to the tone of the docudrama.

So now the Democrats are trying to do the same thing to the ABC show that they all complained about when it happened to the CBS show. If that isn't hypocrisy I don't know what is.

Um.. the RNC got it taken off the air.. YET look at YOU and other R's complaining about Dems actions right now.. BUT BACK THEN.. you were yelling at CBS with all your other fat white oil and weapons industry loving Republicans

 

[ProfJohn]

Originally posted by: dahunan

Um.. the RNC got it taken off the air.. YET look at YOU and other R's complaining about Dems actions right now.. BUT BACK THEN.. you were yelling at CBS with all your other fat white oil and weapons industry loving Republicans

Let's look from a logic point of view:
Then.
Before the movie is shown Republicans complain that the CBS movie is mean and dishonest in how it portrays Reagan.
CBS moves the show to Showtime and releases this statement "We believe it does not present a balanced portrayal of the Reagans for CBS and its audience,"
Democrats jump up and down and start talking about CBS caving into the Republicans and censorship.

Today.
Before the movie is shown the Democrats start to complain that it is unfair to Clinton and company.

In other words the Democrats of today are doing exactly what they raised holy hell about when the Republicans did it.
All the Republicans are doing is pointing this out.

Also, show me a letter written by Republicans or an effort by a Republican president to get the Reagan movie changed.
Or how about a letter by Republican leaders of congress threatening CBS's broadcast license if they show the movie.

 

[DealMonkey]

Okay, here you go:

Criticism of CBS took on an official tone last week, with a letter of complaint from Republican National Committee Chairman Ed Gillespie to CBS President Les Moonves.

Source

 

[Gaard]

Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Okay, here you go:

Criticism of CBS took on an official tone last week, with a letter of complaint from Republican National Committee Chairman Ed Gillespie to CBS President Les Moonves.

Source

*sigh*
I guess I'll have to speak for PJ...

"Um, oh."