Wooden privacy fences - Install on property line or inside property line?

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iamwiz82

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Originally posted by: pontifex
Originally posted by: iamwiz82
I'd like to replace the chainlink fence between my property and three of the neighbors fences, and also an old wooden fence between one other neighbor, but I don't want to mess with getting their approval or bicker with them over costs, so I'd like to just keep the old fences there and put the new one just inside of the property line. Is this ok to do or will I be pissing off everyone? I don't have relations with any of them and would prefer to keep my yard private, as we have a pool.

ah, i get it, trying to hide the wife and her new boobies from the neighbors, eh? lol

Actually, yes. :p
 

Homerboy

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Originally posted by: iamwiz82
I was planning on talking to them either way, but I have my doubts that at least one of them will offer anything, they cannot even take care of their current privacy fence, the entire thing is being pushed down by a tree in their backyard.

Another catch is that one corner of the property lines is a 'T', how do you handle a corner that is 2/3 wooden, 1/3 chainlink, and who would pay for it, as I am not the owner of either property that it seperates?

If it were me? I'd explain to the neighbors what I wanted to do. Since I was the one "stirring the pot" It'd be up to me to remove the fence. Personally I'd do the demolition myself... I'd STRONGLY hint to them that, "Hey, I'm paying for a new, non-eye-sore fence to be installed, the least you can do is help me pull some of this old sh!t down". If they do help great, if they dont, cr@p to them.

 

pontifex

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Originally posted by: iamwiz82
Originally posted by: pontifex
Originally posted by: iamwiz82
I'd like to replace the chainlink fence between my property and three of the neighbors fences, and also an old wooden fence between one other neighbor, but I don't want to mess with getting their approval or bicker with them over costs, so I'd like to just keep the old fences there and put the new one just inside of the property line. Is this ok to do or will I be pissing off everyone? I don't have relations with any of them and would prefer to keep my yard private, as we have a pool.

ah, i get it, trying to hide the wife and her new boobies from the neighbors, eh? lol

Actually, yes. :p

i don't blame ya
 

dartworth

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It may have been said in the thread already...but I would check your local building codes on the regulations.

You will probably have to pull a permit for the work also if you are doing it yourself.
 

Chryso

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Originally posted by: Need4Speed
Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
Um, this is potentially a bad idea. My insurance agent said that if you put up a fence and give them a few inches and they have it for a while (x years), they can make a claim on that land.

I never looked into it, but I don't think she'd just flatly BS me for no reason.

I'd put it right back up where it is now. If you're paying and doing the work, they won't care.

thats what i did to one of my neighbors..he had a fence about 6' of the property line, and never mowed or did anything to maintain that 6' wide section...about 200' long. So i took care of it for about a year after which i informed him that i was going to sue him for the rights of the property since he never took care of it...lawyers did some paper work and i now own it.

Did he fight it or did he not care?
 
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Lola

Originally posted by: pontifex
Originally posted by: iamwiz82
Originally posted by: pontifex
Originally posted by: iamwiz82
I'd like to replace the chainlink fence between my property and three of the neighbors fences, and also an old wooden fence between one other neighbor, but I don't want to mess with getting their approval or bicker with them over costs, so I'd like to just keep the old fences there and put the new one just inside of the property line. Is this ok to do or will I be pissing off everyone? I don't have relations with any of them and would prefer to keep my yard private, as we have a pool.

ah, i get it, trying to hide the wife and her new boobies from the neighbors, eh? lol

Actually, yes. :p
I want our own "garden of eden" au naturale backyard :eek:
i don't blame ya

 

pontifex

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Originally posted by: LolaWiz
Originally posted by: pontifex
Originally posted by: iamwiz82
Originally posted by: pontifex
Originally posted by: iamwiz82
I'd like to replace the chainlink fence between my property and three of the neighbors fences, and also an old wooden fence between one other neighbor, but I don't want to mess with getting their approval or bicker with them over costs, so I'd like to just keep the old fences there and put the new one just inside of the property line. Is this ok to do or will I be pissing off everyone? I don't have relations with any of them and would prefer to keep my yard private, as we have a pool.

ah, i get it, trying to hide the wife and her new boobies from the neighbors, eh? lol

Actually, yes. :p
I want our own "garden of eden" au naturale backyard :eek:
i don't blame ya

NICE!

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Originally posted by: iamwiz82
I'd like to replace the chainlink fence between my property and three of the neighbors fences, and also an old wooden fence between one other neighbor, but I don't want to mess with getting their approval or bicker with them over costs, so I'd like to just keep the old fences there and put the new one just inside of the property line. Is this ok to do or will I be pissing off everyone? I don't have relations with any of them and would prefer to keep my yard private, as we have a pool.

Funny story. When a storm blew down a couple of our fences, one of my neighbors refused to turn to her insurance because she claimed the fence was all on my land. I said, fine, paid for the whole thing, did all the work myself and bumped it over a few inches onto the property line and had all the decorative side facing me.

Like I said, they'll probably be ecstatic that you're wiling to remove and replace the fence at your own cost. Pretty easy project. I did 120 feet plus built a gate

The 'T' junction is a blessing in disguise. HD sells a T joint that has a 2 3/8" pole clamp on one side and two L shaped extensions for mounting the cross bars to. I 150% recommend you use those aluminum poles for your fence even though they're ugly compared to the thick wood beams. They'll last you much longer. Also, your friends will be a box beam level, 8' 2x4, and a bass plumb. And don't forget to use screws coated with a colored powder corresponding to the type of wood you're using so they don't rust or stain the wood.
 

Lumathix

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Originally posted by: TallBill
Originally posted by: iamwiz82
Originally posted by: BigJ
It's fine to do. We actually put one up around my house the exact same way you did it.

What you do have to consider though is if it will be higher than 6 feet. If so, you may need a building permit and/or the permission of the local planning department.

It will be right at 6 feet, my city limits it to 8 feet and no barbed wire :(

:D

I'd go with 7 feet. But then again I'm 6'7", so a 6' fence does nothing to stop me.

same here :)
:thumbsup: tall peepz.
 

EMPshockwave82

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Originally posted by: RadiclDreamer
Its fine, as long as you dont go ON their property they cant do jack

actually in some cities they have city ordinances that prohibit the building of anything on the property line or 12 inches from said line


Had one at my last house. We had to place a privacy fence 12 inches inside the property line
 

orakle

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Originally posted by: pontifex
Originally posted by: iamwiz82
I'd like to replace the chainlink fence between my property and three of the neighbors fences, and also an old wooden fence between one other neighbor, but I don't want to mess with getting their approval or bicker with them over costs, so I'd like to just keep the old fences there and put the new one just inside of the property line. Is this ok to do or will I be pissing off everyone? I don't have relations with any of them and would prefer to keep my yard private, as we have a pool.

ah, i get it, trying to hide the wife and her new boobies from the neighbors, eh? lol

winner :)
 

Need4Speed

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Originally posted by: Chryso
Originally posted by: Need4Speed
Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
Um, this is potentially a bad idea. My insurance agent said that if you put up a fence and give them a few inches and they have it for a while (x years), they can make a claim on that land.

I never looked into it, but I don't think she'd just flatly BS me for no reason.

I'd put it right back up where it is now. If you're paying and doing the work, they won't care.

thats what i did to one of my neighbors..he had a fence about 6' of the property line, and never mowed or did anything to maintain that 6' wide section...about 200' long. So i took care of it for about a year after which i informed him that i was going to sue him for the rights of the property since he never took care of it...lawyers did some paper work and i now own it.

Did he fight it or did he not care?


he was going to put up a stink, but his attorney advised him against it...he told him that by not having the fence on the property line and not taking care of that portion of the yard, he basically gave up the rights to that land to the person that did take care of it...me.
 

EMPshockwave82

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Originally posted by: Need4Speed
Originally posted by: Chryso
Originally posted by: Need4Speed
Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
Um, this is potentially a bad idea. My insurance agent said that if you put up a fence and give them a few inches and they have it for a while (x years), they can make a claim on that land.

I never looked into it, but I don't think she'd just flatly BS me for no reason.

I'd put it right back up where it is now. If you're paying and doing the work, they won't care.

thats what i did to one of my neighbors..he had a fence about 6' of the property line, and never mowed or did anything to maintain that 6' wide section...about 200' long. So i took care of it for about a year after which i informed him that i was going to sue him for the rights of the property since he never took care of it...lawyers did some paper work and i now own it.

Did he fight it or did he not care?


he was going to put up a stink, but his attorney advised him against it...he told him that by not having the fence on the property line and not taking care of that portion of the yard, he basically gave up the rights to that land to the person that did take care of it...me.

I thought property only changed hands by this law after a period of 7 years. Longer than one at least. He should have kept it up though. That's just tacky to let grass grow where your neighbors can see it but you cant.
 

SampSon

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It all depends on what town/city codes say.
When it comes down to it, who gives a sh!t what the neighbors think.
 

Need4Speed

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Originally posted by: SampSon
It all depends on what town/city codes say.
When it comes down to it, who gives a sh!t what the neighbors think.


bob is that you?
 

SampSon

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Originally posted by: Need4Speed
Originally posted by: SampSon
It all depends on what town/city codes say.
When it comes down to it, who gives a sh!t what the neighbors think.


bob is that you?
Yes, and keep your dog's sh!t on your own damned lawn!
 

iamwiz82

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Originally posted by: SampSon
It all depends on what town/city codes say.
When it comes down to it, who gives a sh!t what the neighbors think.

City code does not make mention of two fences, one on either property. I have the whole ordinance right now.
 

Need4Speed

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Originally posted by: EMPshockwave82
Originally posted by: Need4Speed
Originally posted by: Chryso
Originally posted by: Need4Speed
Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
Um, this is potentially a bad idea. My insurance agent said that if you put up a fence and give them a few inches and they have it for a while (x years), they can make a claim on that land.

I never looked into it, but I don't think she'd just flatly BS me for no reason.

I'd put it right back up where it is now. If you're paying and doing the work, they won't care.

thats what i did to one of my neighbors..he had a fence about 6' of the property line, and never mowed or did anything to maintain that 6' wide section...about 200' long. So i took care of it for about a year after which i informed him that i was going to sue him for the rights of the property since he never took care of it...lawyers did some paper work and i now own it.

Did he fight it or did he not care?


he was going to put up a stink, but his attorney advised him against it...he told him that by not having the fence on the property line and not taking care of that portion of the yard, he basically gave up the rights to that land to the person that did take care of it...me.

I thought property only changed hands by this law after a period of 7 years. Longer than one at least. He should have kept it up though. That's just tacky to let grass grow where your neighbors can see it but you cant.


it depends entirely on the circumstances...its not just black and white. in my case, he hadnt been keeping it up for some time..sometimes he'd mow...and then let it go for weeks. the previous owner had warned us about it (that was 6yrs ago). I'm sure he was happy to see it go since he doesnt have to do anything about it now.
 

Need4Speed

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Originally posted by: SampSon
Originally posted by: Need4Speed
Originally posted by: SampSon
It all depends on what town/city codes say.
When it comes down to it, who gives a sh!t what the neighbors think.


bob is that you?
Yes, and keep your dog's sh!t on your own damned lawn!


:) damn you! <shakes fists violently>
 

mugs

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How are you going to mow the lawn between the privacy fence and the chain link fence?
 

SampSon

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Originally posted by: iamwiz82
Originally posted by: SampSon
It all depends on what town/city codes say.
When it comes down to it, who gives a sh!t what the neighbors think.

City code does not make mention of two fences, one on either property. I have the whole ordinance right now.
Then it's probably not an issue.
Id go over and talk to your neighbors anyway.
 

iamwiz82

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Originally posted by: mugs
How are you going to mow the lawn between the privacy fence and the chain link fence?

One neighbor doesn't weed wack that area, anyways, so I'm not going to be doing any worse. :p
 

SilentZero

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If it is on the property line then they own half of the fence I believe, and if it is damaged due to something they did, chances are you would have to split the costs, but this might depend on the state. I always say leave a tad bit of room between the property line and the fence, but check the laws in your area.
 

mugs

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I wouldn't count on them offering to pay for any of it, since it doesn't sound like they care too much about having the fence there.