[Won't you be my forever card?] [I'll try to be your forever case] (E.Clapton)

[Nhirlathothep]

My setup is not going to change in the years. Monitor-KEYB-MOUSE-CASE-MOBO-CPU-RAM-SSD-HD : i ll never change em.
Never upgraded my pc and never gonna do it.

The only thing i am going to change is the gpu. And only 1 time.
Is Titan X good enough to be my forever card?

or better wait pascal ?

 

[chimaxi83]

The Titan X will last at least until the Sun dies. Not sure about driver support, though.

If you want an answer, just look and see how the flagship cards from just a couple generations ago are doing these days. Hint.... bad.

 

[Nhirlathothep]

The Titan X will last at least until the Sun dies. Not sure about driver support, though.

If you want an answer, just look and see how the flagship cards from just a couple generations ago are doing these days. Hint.... bad.

i started a discussion about the lack of optimization for kepler many months ago. It s a true problem.

but my monitor it s going to remain the same (poor) 1080p 120hz, and a titan x is gonna be op for many years at this resolution, i hope.

but atm my setup seems ok and i m wondering if it s better to wait pascal to upgrade. the card i m gonna buy is gonna be the last purchase for this pc. no further upgrades!

 

[happy medium]

Is Titan X good enough to be my forever card?

No this one is. The Evga gtx980ti hybrid. 300$ cheaper than a Titan x.
Should be great for 1080p for years.

 

[Nhirlathothep]

No this one is. The Evga gtx980ti hybrid. 300$ cheaper than a Titan x.
Should be great for 1080p for years.

the advice is good: 6gb seems perfect for 1080p (also with DSR) but


- I am European and here between titanx and 980ti there are only 200 bucks ( 6gb vram and 5% perf are worth it i think)


edit

- Evga gtx980ti hybrid has perfect design, but i cant use it in my gaming pc (no space for the liquid cooling solution)

 

[happy medium]

the advice is good: 6gb seems perfect for 1080p (also with DSR) but


- I am European and here between titanx and 980ti there are only 200 bucks ( 6gb vram and 5% perf are worth it i think)


edit

- Evga gtx980ti hybrid has perfect design, but i cant use it in my gaming pc (no space for the liquid cooling solution)

ok, ok , ok

How about the fastest air cooled gtx980ti? faster than a Titan.

Gigabyte G1 gtx980ti.

http://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/gigabyte-geforce-gtx-980-g1-gaming-review,1.html

 

[happy medium]

(no space for the liquid cooling solution)

It fits in a normal 120mm fan space?
I think every case has one of those.

See the fan in the picture ?that goes where your case fan is, its easy.

 

[Nhirlathothep]

ok, ok , ok

How about the fastest air cooled gtx980ti? faster than a Titan.

Gigabyte G1 gtx980ti.

http://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/gigabyte-geforce-gtx-980-g1-gaming-review,1.html

the card is good for sure, but i prefer Reference cards, they blow air outside the case and are way beter for sli config with no space between cards.

(custom design cards are constantly throwing hot air inside the case, i hate em)(they re perfect for single gpu config with fresh low socket intel cpu )

It fits in a normal 120mm fan space?
I think every case has one of those.

See the fan in the picture ?that goes where your case fan is, its easy.

it s a micro atx case, this pc is full branded and not a custom build.

In my custom build pcs i m gonna use custom liquid cooling, but this gaming pc prebuilt and i only can change gpu

 

[happy medium]

your a tough customer!

ok this gtx980ti 6gb will take the hot air out of your case and is as fast as a Titan X and cost much less.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ..._re=evga_gtx_980_ti_sc-_-14-487-139-_-Product

http://www.evga.com/Products/Product.aspx?pn=06G-P4-4992-KR

 

[Nhirlathothep]

your a tough customer!

ok this gtx980ti 6gb will take the hot air out of your case and is as fast as a Titan X and cost much less.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ..._re=evga_gtx_980_ti_sc-_-14-487-139-_-Product

http://www.evga.com/Products/Product.aspx?pn=06G-P4-4992-KR

:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

these evga are perfect and love nvidia reference design.

 

[happy medium]

these evga are perfect and love nvidia reference design.

bingo!, come back and tell us how you like it.

edit:
wait! how long of a card can you fit in there?
The card is 10.5 inches.

 

[Headfoot]

i started a discussion about the lack of optimization for kepler many months ago. It s a true problem.

but my monitor it s going to remain the same (poor) 1080p 120hz, and a titan x is gonna be op for many years at this resolution, i hope.

but atm my setup seems ok and i m wondering if it s better to wait pascal to upgrade. the card i m gonna buy is gonna be the last purchase for this pc. no further upgrades!

Buying a Titan X right now is like lighting money on fire just to see it burn. Complete waste. 980 Ti or Fury X.

And its not going to last forever. That's a fool's errand. 28nm cards will be embarrassed by 14/16nm cards when they come out and you'll be in the exact same spot.

 

[Headfoot]

:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

these evga are perfect and love nvidia reference design.

The reference design is junk.... have you even read the reviews dude? Seriously. It's barely a step above the 290x stock cooler. Crap. Hot, loud, and limits your overclocking substantially.

Get an aftermarket 980 Ti if you're going to get a 980 Ti. The blower is better if you're getting 2 cards, but it sounds like you're getting one. An aftermarket fan is going to be better in a single GPU configuration even in a small case.

 

[sammesaken32]

You really think this card is gonna last forever? It's not, when the 14/16 cards nm comes out the Titan will be a waste of money. Get a 980 ti and overclock it instead, it overclocks like a god and will beat the Titan easily when it's overclocked. Just look at graphics cards from 5 years ago, they're horrible now. This world moves fast and no card is totally future proof.

HeadFoot is right too, about the reference design. It's shit. Trust me, i have a Nvidia card with the reference design. 86C and it sounds like a vacuum cleaner. Don't get it.

 

[NTMBK]

FOREVAR CARD isn't going to happen. Moore's Law is just like that.

Buy a good card now, and upgrade in a couple of years. Don't blow your money on 12GB of GDDR5 for "future proofing", when next year's cards will have 8-16GB of HBM2 with 14nm shaders and make it look like an antique.

 

[KingFatty]

This could work, but only if you run old software. Never buy another new game, just run old games, forever.

But if you ever want to run a new game in the future, you risk seeing your hardware become obsolete.

 

[Nhirlathothep]

bingo!, come back and tell us how you like it.

edit:
wait! how long of a card can you fit in there?
The card is 10.5 inches.

no problems in length

Buying a Titan X right now is like lighting money on fire just to see it burn. Complete waste. 980 Ti or Fury X.

And its not going to last forever. That's a fool's errand. 28nm cards will be embarrassed by 14/16nm cards when they come out and you'll be in the exact same spot.

The reference design is junk.... have you even read the reviews dude? Seriously. It's barely a step above the 290x stock cooler. Crap. Hot, loud, and limits your overclocking substantially.

Get an aftermarket 980 Ti if you're going to get a 980 Ti. The blower is better if you're getting 2 cards, but it sounds like you're getting one. An aftermarket fan is going to be better in a single GPU configuration even in a small case.

sorry to disagree: despite reference design cards will limit not only oc, but also normal frequency (card is throttling also at stock speed with reference cards), they re the best coolers on the market.
I consider junk custom designs: I had Asus DCII - Sapphire VaporX - Gigabyte windforce - Gainward golden sample - xfx - cards and they re all trash for my systems.

Gpu reviews are too simplistic, they only consider cards temp and the fact they re gonna throw hot air inside the case and create turbolence ( with problems to cool cpu-chipsets-ram) doesnt affect their score. So read carefully reviews!

 

[xthetenth]

That is a pretty solid sign that you have terrible case airflow. Dealing with an aftermarket cooler is no problem for any decent case.

 

[Nhirlathothep]

That is a pretty solid sign that you have terrible case airflow. Dealing with an aftermarket cooler is no problem for any decent case.

no, it s not that way (i wasnt talking about my pc at all)

 

[Nhirlathothep]

You really think this card is gonna last forever? It's not, when the 14/16 cards nm comes out the Titan will be a waste of money. Get a 980 ti and overclock it instead, it overclocks like a god and will beat the Titan easily when it's overclocked. Just look at graphics cards from 5 years ago, they're horrible now. This world moves fast and no card is totally future proof.

HeadFoot is right too, about the reference design. It's shit. Trust me, i have a Nvidia card with the reference design. 86C and it sounds like a vacuum cleaner. Don't get it.

FOREVAR CARD isn't going to happen. Moore's Law is just like that.

Buy a good card now, and upgrade in a couple of years. Don't blow your money on 12GB of GDDR5 for "future proofing", when next year's cards will have 8-16GB of HBM2 with 14nm shaders and make it look like an antique.

This could work, but only if you run old software. Never buy another new game, just run old games, forever.

But if you ever want to run a new game in the future, you risk seeing your hardware become obsolete.

all you said it s true for a custom build pc, where u can change MB/CPU/... but i have to make some clarifications:

1) i have another Custom build pc watercoled and that is gonna be always upgraded. This discussion is not about it !

2) This gaming setup is to consider as a console: not upgradable, because it is a pre-made pc and i can only change the gpu, i took it for design and i m not going to sell it never. When too old it s gonna be used for retrogaming (as you said!)


The other parts of the pc cant be changed and are probably going to limit a too powerfull gpu ,so i have to chose 1 gpu to remain forever in this pc without be limited by the rest of the config





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Screen : cant be changed [Alienware OptX aw2310] (1080p 120hz)
Keyboard : cant be changed [Alienware TactX Keyboard]
Mouse : cant be changed [Alienware TactX Mouse]
MB : cant be changed [Alienware MB - msi rebrand and mod]
CPU : cant be changed [3970x]
Ram : cant be changed [32gb]
SSD : cant be changed [1TB]
HD : cant be changed [4TB]
GPU : can be upgraded [2x7970ghz]


is pascal gonna be limited by the other parts ? cpu can handle 5ghz

 

[Vesku]

Not sure why you are worried about SLI when it's going to be "my forever card" and you are putting it in a mATX case. Aftermarket multi-fan is very good for single GPU.

 

[sm625]

10 years ago, an 8800GTX would have blown the doors off just about every single gaming PC on the planet (8800GTX was faster than a pair of 7800GTX which launched 10 years ago). But now a 8800GTX cant even beat some IGPs. Never say forever with graphics cards.... You be lucky to get 5 years from it.

 

[IEC]

Get a new case that supports a 120mm AIO CLC and a 980 Ti Hybrid or a Fury X.

Way quieter than reference cooling. And still can be setup to exhaust heat and not dump it inside the case.

 

[Nhirlathothep]

Not sure why you are worried about SLI when it's going to be "my forever card" and you are putting it in a mATX case. Aftermarket multi-fan is very good for single GPU.

10 years ago, an 8800GTX would have blown the doors off just about every single gaming PC on the planet (8800GTX was faster than a pair of 7800GTX which launched 10 years ago). But now a 8800GTX cant even beat some IGPs. Never say forever with graphics cards.... You be lucky to get 5 years from it.

thanks for your advices, i agree with you when talking about upgradable pc!

this gaming setup cant be upgraded, i only can change gpu, first or later the other parts will bottlenech a too powerfull gpu!

that s why i am asking for a perfect cpu to remain forever in this pc!


i will play new games with another pc later and use this for retrogaming!

 

[happy medium]

[2x7970ghz]

s pascal gonna be limited by the other parts ? cpu can handle 5ghz

@ 1080p?

Save your money 2 7970 can do just fine @ 1080p till next year and your cpu will push a Pascal gpu just fine. Your cpu can push 2 gtx980ti's and I'm sure a Pascal will not be much faster than that.
Pascal will be your forever gpu! After that you'll need more cpu and you can retire your whole system. That may be in 2018 or 2019.