I LOVE my three year old Kenwood eXcelon. I have never liked Pioneer, and my feelings are only strengthened by accidental experience with the brand. The last car I bought has a Pioneer installed. I don't know what model it is (I don't care, because it sucks), but the sound controls (bass, trebble, balance, fader) are needlessly complex, you have to change to a different mode to seek within a track, and you need to switch modes AGAIN to skip to the next track. That's suckage! One of the buttons stick. I will admit that it sounds good though.