Women's March wishes cop-killing terrorist happy birthday

[Atreus21]

http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2017/07/womens_march_wishes_nj_cop_killer_a_happy_birthday.html

https://twitter.com/womensmarch/sta...ch_wishes_nj_cop_killer_a_happy_birthday.html

The Women's March has been harshly criticized after it Monday wished a happy birthday to a fugitive convicted in the shooting death of a New Jersey State Police trooper 44 years ago.

A tweet read "Happy birthday to the revolutionary #AssataShakur! above an illustration of her.

Assata Shakur is one of the many aliases of Joanne Deborah Chesimard, a former member of what authorities describe as a "revolutionary extremist organization" known as the Black Liberation Army. She is on the FBI's Most Wanted Terrorist list.

Chesimard and another person were convicted of the execution-style killing State Police Trooper Werner Foerster after a traffic stop on the New Jersey Turnpike on May 2, 1973. Her accomplice was killed in a shoot-out with police.

Real class act here.

 

[Commodus]

That was a stupid mistake... whatever good she's done since, it's probably not a good idea to celebrate someone who explicitly set out to kill a cop that wasn't threatening her.

The sad thing is that people will use this as a pretext to demonize the Women's March or black protest movements, even though both are by and large good causes with peaceful supporters.

 

[Bitek]

WTF are they thinking? Insane.

Horrible sentiment. Horrible mentality. Horrible politics.

They would be well served by firing whomever wrote that tweet and creating a lot of distance between the organization and the fools who wrote and approved it.

 

[Thebobo]

Yes its pathetic but don't try to lump all those that marched with this so called leader who is not! They just have the twitter account, No one actually follows their wackiness especially after this.

 

[J.Wilkins]

That organization is quickly becoming a problem for the cause it supposedly supports.

It might be time to get rid of the organization completely and start over.

 

[Thump553]

Thread title is intentionally misleading. The Women's March was composed of millions of people, including me. I didn't Ms. Chesimard a happy birthday. Just like I don't endorse the reporter & opposition killer/country invader Putin despite the fact that my country's current President does.

But I just the truth would distract the emphasis this very trite and old right wing talking point is trying to make, right?

 

[J.Wilkins]

Thread title is intentionally misleading. The Women's March was composed of millions of people, including me. I didn't Ms. Chesimard a happy birthday. Just like I don't endorse the reporter & opposition killer/country invader Putin despite the fact that my country's current President does.

But I just the truth would distract the emphasis this very trite and old right wing talking point is trying to make, right?

Not really, the organizer is a pretty horrid organization that has managed to praise murderers twice now.

If I were in the US I wouldn't walk in a march organized by these people, I'd walk in another march instead.

Regarding the comparison with Trump, would you walk in a Trump organized march?

 

[Thebobo]

yea the women's march was a movement but has since been hijacked by delusional extremist.

 

[Atreus21]

Thread title is intentionally misleading.

I named the title in the same terms as nj.com and the twitter account itself did.

The Women's March was composed of millions of people, including me. I didn't Ms. Chesimard a happy birthday. Just like I don't endorse the reporter & opposition killer/country invader Putin despite the fact that my country's current President does.

But I just the truth would distract the emphasis this very trite and old right wing talking point is trying to make, right?

Part of the cost of being in a movement of millions of people is accepting responsibility for bad apples and doing what you can to dampen their ideological influence within the organization. Anything less is simple team worship.

 

[woolfe9998]

Not really, the organizer is a pretty horrid organization that has managed to praise murderers twice now.

If I were in the US I wouldn't walk in a march organized by these people, I'd walk in another march instead.

Regarding the comparison with Trump, would you walk in a Trump organized march?

Yup, the other was discussed here:

https://forums.anandtech.com/thread...d-a-man-to-death.2498037/page-9#post-38711729

I agree that this organizer needs to go. We don't need these kinds of unforced errors on the left right now.

 

[woolfe9998]

I named the title in the same terms as nj.com and the twitter account itself did.



Part of the cost of being in a movement of millions of people is accepting responsibility for bad apples and doing what you can to dampen their ideological influence within the organization. Anything less is simple team worship.

Right, but regardless of who originally came up with the title, it's misleading. It was one person who offered this praise. However, I do agree that people have a responsibility to denounce this sort of behavior.

 

[agent00f]

Right, but regardless of who originally came up with the title, it's misleading. It was one person who offered this praise. However, I do agree that people have a responsibility to denounce this sort of behavior.

I named the title in the same terms as nj.com and the twitter account itself did.



Part of the cost of being in a movement of millions of people is accepting responsibility for bad apples and doing what you can to dampen their ideological influence within the organization. Anything less is simple team worship.

Pretty easy to tell people playing for the same team.

 

[Commodus]

The problem on this forum is that we're so used to the far-right posters highlighting stories like this with dubious leaps of logic and obvious ulterior motives. "A few left-wing protesters were violent, ergo all left-wing protesters are violent. Ban them. All hail the eternal Republican dictatorship."

I don't think that's the case here, at least not so far. Denounce serious mistakes like this, but don't let them delegitimize an entire movement.

 

[jackstar7]

Part of the cost of being in a movement of millions of people is accepting responsibility for bad apples and doing what you can to dampen their ideological influence within the organization. Anything less is simple team worship.

Just like gun owners, right?

 

[Atreus21]

Right, but regardless of who originally came up with the title, it's misleading. It was one person who offered this praise.

So you would accept this excuse if the National Right to Life's twitter account praised Eric Rudolph?

 

[woolfe9998]

So you would accept this excuse if the National Right to Life's twitter account praised Eric Rudolph?

It's not an excuse. It's a fact: it WAS only one person. However, like I said in the part of my post that you removed, it's important to denounce this sort of thing. If liberals refused to denounce it, then my criticism would extend beyond that one person. My response would be the same in the hypothetical you gave. If one conservative leader praised Rudolph, I would criticize that leader. I would criticize other conservatives if they failed to denounce it.

 

[agent00f]

The problem on this forum is that we're so used to the far-right posters highlighting stories like this with dubious leaps of logic and obvious ulterior motives. "A few left-wing protesters were violent, ergo all left-wing protesters are violent. Ban them. All hail the eternal Republican dictatorship."

I don't think that's the case here, at least not so far. Denounce serious mistakes like this, but don't let them delegitimize an entire movement.

The whole point here is to make a lot of noise over it so that their BothSides buddies have something to work with. Atreus knows what he's doing.

It's not an excuse. It's a fact: it WAS only one person. However, like I said in the part of my post that you removed, it's important to denounce this sort of thing. If liberals refused to denounce it, then my criticism would extend beyond that one person. My response would be the same in the hypothetical you gave. If one conservative leader praised Rudolph, I would criticize that leader. I would criticize other conservatives if they failed to denounce it.

I'm pretty sure there are at least thousands of questionable leftists out there. Better flood the airwaves with fair and balanced news. The dumbest liberals are such suckers, haha.

 

[Thebobo]

It's not an excuse. It's a fact: it WAS only one person. However, like I said in the part of my post that you removed, it's important to denounce this sort of thing. If liberals refused to denounce it, then my criticism would extend beyond that one person. My response would be the same in the hypothetical you gave. If one conservative leader praised Rudolph, I would criticize that leader. I would criticize other conservatives if they failed to denounce it.

The post is still up on their facebook page you can voice your opinion there if you have FB,

 

[Atreus21]

It's not an excuse. It's a fact: it WAS only one person. However, like I said in the part of my post that you removed, it's important to denounce this sort of thing. If liberals refused to denounce it, then my criticism would extend beyond that one person. My response would be the same in the hypothetical you gave. If one conservative leader praised Rudolph, I would criticize that leader. I would criticize other conservatives if they failed to denounce it.

Fair enough thanks.

 

[WHAMPOM]

So you would accept this excuse if the National Right to Life's twitter account praised Eric Rudolph?

Can we condemn all on the Right for the few that praise Hitler? Can we condemn the Republican Party for embracing the Southern Dixiecrats when the Democratic majority would no longer support their racist agenda?

 

[WHAMPOM]

So you would accept this excuse if the National Right to Life's twitter account praised Eric Rudolph?

Better check, they may have or some have or one has. Any way get over yourself, I doubt if any one did a fact check before they tweeted.

 

[agent00f]

Can we condemn all on the Right for the few that praise Hitler? Can we condemn the Republican Party for embracing the Southern Dixiecrats when the Democratic majority would no longer support their racist agenda?

Pretty obvious answer given their birther magnate leadership pander to them.

 

[JSt0rm]

This will make me vote against my own interests.

 

[theeedude]

We don't know what happened. Maybe she felt "threatened."

 

[Thump553]

It's ironic how the righties insist on everyone else, but especially the left, be politically correct and unoffensive at all items while your darling Donald refuses to reject David Duke and the KKK, and openly fawns over international despots who demolish democracy in their own countries.

Personally I could give a flying F what that person had to say on the issue complained of in this thread. It has absolutely nothing to do with my support of what the Women's March stood for and still stands for. When Trump expressly rejects and renounces David Duke, Putin, the current Polish and Turkish governments and the like then get back to me. But I refuse to have a different set of rules of behavior applied to us.