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Women sue SDSU over rape....they want to sue the bar also

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MuffD

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I think this is so dumb. These chicks are trying to sue the bar where they went drinking at first of all.



<< Attorney Benjamin Winslow said his clients are suing the bar because the women were under 21 when they drank there last April.

The suit alleges the bar shouldn't have served the women, who met two of the players while they were drunk.
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That is even dumber. It's not like the bar forced them to drink alcohol.
What do you guys think?
 
They have every right to sue the bar. Bars are NOT supposed to sell to minors and are supposed to check the ID's of younger folks; END OF STORY.

This has held up in court and they will probably win.
 
The bar should sue THEM for their lying and making the bar commit a crime. f**king stupid. I'll cut my own testicles off if they get away with it 🙂
 
ridicoulous, two underage girls go out with the SDSU rugby team and get loaded and then into some gang bang and they didnt see that coming? then they get mad cause the bar should have not let them drink?
 


<< They have every right to sue the bar. Bars are NOT supposed to sell to minors and are supposed to check the ID's of younger folks; END OF STORY.

This has held up in court and they will probably win. >>

Though I see your point see this one: They were 18 and thus adults and commited a crime by trying to ingest alcohol underage so they should be held liable for that. They clearly lyed to the bar, even if the bar failed to check ID (this assumes that they didn't have fake ID - which obviously the bar can't be expected to be able to deal with if it's good id).
 


<< They have every right to sue the bar. Bars are NOT supposed to sell to minors and are supposed to check the ID's of younger folks; END OF STORY.

This has held up in court and they will probably win. >>





OMG, what if they did check their ID? What if they had fakes?
 


<< They have every right to sue the bar. Bars are NOT supposed to sell to minors and are supposed to check the ID's of younger folks; END OF STORY.

This has held up in court and they will probably win. >>



why did they goto the bar and avoid the id checks if they didnt want to drink?
 


<< This has held up in court and they will probably win. >>



why did they goto the bar and avoid the id checks if they didnt want to drink?[/i] >>

Exactly. They were adults. THey could vote and join the military. Bunch of frigging whiney babies! The rape sucks, but the bar shouldn't be held liable for this. I could MAYBE understand the argument if they were 17 or under.
 


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<< They have every right to sue the bar. Bars are NOT supposed to sell to minors and are supposed to check the ID's of younger folks; END OF STORY.

This has held up in court and they will probably win. >>

Though I see your point see this one: They were 18 and thus adults and commited a crime by trying to ingest alcohol underage so they should be held liable for that. They clearly lyed to the bar, even if the bar failed to check ID (this assumes that they didn't have fake ID - which obviously the bar can't be expected to be able to deal with if it's good id). >>


The fact that they ingested alcohol does not relieve the bar from responsibility.

If you're drinking alcohol and are driving down the street (following proper traffic guidelines) and a car runs a red light and smashes into your car and seriously injures you; the other "offending" party can be just as liable as you.
 


<< That is even dumber. It's not like the bar forced them to drink alcohol.
What do you guys think? >>


I think these sluts should take responsibility for their own actions.
I can't say for certain whether they were really raped or not, but I can say for certain that it's ridiculous to hold a bar responsible for serving alcohol.
If the bartender didn't card, then that's a different _criminal_ matter in which the bar should be fined.
If the bartender DID card then I guess they had fake IDs. Whose fault is that?

No responsibility anymore...it's always someone else's fault.
 
The bar is supposed to check ID's and not serve to minors. Therefore, if the bar did not check for ID, the bar should be fined by the city.
The rugby players should be charged with rape.

The bar owes nothing to the girls, who misrepresented their age and obtained alchohol under false pretences. They ASKED for alchohol, paid for it, and drank it - no one forced them to do the drinking!

But just to clarify, none of this matters in regard to the rape charges - the rapists (if guilty) should go away for a long time! I'm just talking about suing the bar -thats horsecrap.
 
if the sluts WOULD HAVE KEPT THEIR LEGS CLOSED this would be an issue! :disgust:



The rugby players should be charged with rape.


The article says the prosecutors office looked into it and there was insufficient evidence.
 


<< ridicoulous, two underage girls go out with the SDSU rugby team and get loaded and then into some gang bang and they didnt see that coming? then they get mad cause the bar should have not let them drink? >>




Thank you. Couldn't have said it better myself. "You want to play with the big boys, huh? Well, play with THIS little girl...." 😛 I have zero sympathy for them. However, I do agree with NFS4's statements about the bar getting sued.

The bottom line is this; clubs WANT underage girls in there, and lots of 'em. Why? Because it gets the 30+ crowd like me in there and drinking, that's why. Most bouncers at the door can look at a girl from 500 feet away and guess her exact age...they knew those girls were under-21. Heck, they probably banged them at least once or twice.
 
Before I turned 21 I had a really good fake, actually it was some other guy's ID and he looked a lot like me. I just had a shaved head at the time so they couldn't tell. The bar probalby did check ID's, most college bars do. A lot of times they just put x's on your hands and say you cant drink. If the girls were to have washed these off, or had fake ID's how is the bar responsible? Then they get drunk, go back to a hotel with guys they don't know and screw them. I could see them pressing charges against the 6 guys that wanted to bang sacks with their buddies, but not the bar or the school because the coach broke it up. If the coach had joined in, then i could see the where the school could be sued, but you don't sue a school just because players on your athletic team screw up. Nebraska's football is full of thugs, and I don't see the school getting sued when they do stuff.
 


<< The fact that they ingested alcohol does not relieve the bar from responsibility.

If you're drinking alcohol and are driving down the street (following proper traffic guidelines) and a car runs a red light and smashes into your car and seriously injures you; the other "offending" party can be just as liable as you. >>


I don't follow you with this illustration....what does a sober driving hitting a drunk driver have to do with the bar somehow being responsible?
 


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<< That is even dumber. It's not like the bar forced them to drink alcohol.
What do you guys think? >>


I think these sluts should take responsibility for their own actions.
I can't say for certain whether they were really raped or not, but I can say for certain that it's ridiculous to hold a bar responsible for serving alcohol.
If the bartender didn't card, then that's a different _criminal_ matter in which the bar should be fined.
If the bartender DID card then I guess they had fake IDs. Whose fault is that?

No responsibility anymore...it's always someone else's fault. >>

Yes at WORST I believe the bar should be sued for whatever penalties a bar would normally pay if they do not card - it should be totally separate from this rape case.

 


<< I don't follow you with this illustration....what does a sober driving hitting a drunk driver have to do with the bar somehow being responsible? >>


The point is that just b/c you are intoxicated doesn't mean that ANYTHING that happens to you would be considered totally your fault with an inability to sue someone else.

I'm not saying that it's right, but that's the way it is.

I remember the case where a robber tried to break into a skylight of someone's house, fell through, and broke his leg or something. He sued and won. Go figure.
 
lucky: OK, I should have said "investigated", then charged if evidence warrants.

My point is:

Is the bar responsible for checking ID? Yes, and they should be fined if they didn't. FINED by the city, not sued by the drinkers.

Are the girls responsible for drinking? Yes.

Are the girls responsible for the rape (if it happened)? NO.
 
I think the bar served them alcohol maybe thinking they were of age or maybe they had fake id's which I'm sure everyone knows is easily attainable at the college level. If that were the case, then maybe the bar can be relieved of some liability. IF they did serve knowingly, then that's something different. They had sex with two guys, and then got raped. That's totally irrelevant to this issue with the bar. They would have gotten raped either way.
 


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<< I don't follow you with this illustration....what does a sober driving hitting a drunk driver have to do with the bar somehow being responsible? >>


The point is that just b/c you are intoxicated doesn't mean that ANYTHING that happens to you would be considered totally your fault with an inability to sue someone else.

I'm not saying that it's right, but that's the way it is.

I remember the case where a robber tried to break into a skylight of someone's house, fell through, and broke his leg or something. He sued and won. Go figure. >>



I see what you're saying. I'd counter that with this:
If you're drunk and you get hit by a sober driver, should someone sue the bar you were drinking at?
Likewise, if you're drunk and you get raped later on in a different location, should you sue the bar you were drinking at?

In either case, while the drinker isn't purely (or even remotely) at fault, does the bar have any responsibility for what happened?
 


<< The point is that just b/c you are intoxicated doesn't mean that ANYTHING that happens to you would be considered totally your fault with an inability to sue someone else. >>

That's right of course, but you must agree that the bar cannot be held accountable for these girls getting raped? It should be held accountable for selling to minors and pay whatever it would normally have to pay. If it is sued for them getting raped it means that the rugby guys can't be held liable - you can't hold both liable that's just silly.

It's approximately silly as me buying a gun from a dealer (illegally) and then shooting 10 people and him being held accountable. He should be charged for illegally selling a gun - not killing 10 people.
 


<< My point is:

Is the bar responsible for checking ID? Yes, and they should be fined if they didn't. FINED by the city, not sued by the drinkers.

Are the girls responsible for drinking? Yes.

Are the girls responsible for the rape (if it happened)? NO. >>



agree 100%

 
So if they had met the guys at Walmart instead of a bar would Walmart be liable? Pure BS in my opinion. The alleged incident happened at a seperate location, I can't see how the bar is really responsible for anything other than serving underaged women (if they didn't check their IDs).

Sounds to me like they regretted their little orgy and decided to try to milk some cash out of the school and bar. Couldn't really just go after the alleged rapists, no money there.
 
hope the guys got jail for rape (if it really happened),
the bar gets a nice big fine (if they didn't check IDs),
and the girls learn a big time lesson...
 
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