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Woman wins marathon or does she?

agreed. weak. should have the rules set. i hope they learned their lesson.

as one of the comments said, NIKE: "Just blew it"
 
Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Definitely weak. What's the determination if one is an 'elite runner'?
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Corporate sponsorship probably.

 
If they want to have separate "races." Why not inform all the competitors? Shame on the "elite" racers running so slow. If you are a woman and can't run a 2:45, then you're not an "elite" marathon runner.
 
An "Elite" runner is usually based on previous times. Since she had never run even close to her winning time, she probably wouldn't have been admitted to the elite running start. On the other hand, it wouldn't be fair to the elite runners to not know what time they had to beat to win since she started 20 minutes after they did. If she had been running with the elites, maybe they would have stayed with her and beat her at the line, who knows. All in all an f'd up event.
 
The classy thing to do would be for the woman who got the original trophy to give it to this lady. Why would you want a trophy you didn't really earn anyway?

The theory is that, because they had separate starts, they weren't in the same race," Estes said. "The woman who is winning the elite field doesn't have the opportunity to know she was racing someone else.
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That is one of the stupidest things I've ever heard. It was the same course on the same day. Would the "winner" have been able to run over ten minutes faster if the other lady was in front of her?
 
It almost seems that having the 'elite' start in a smaller pack, with generous headstart, gives them an unfair advantage as they don't have to jostle around with the 'masses' early in the race.
 
Originally posted by: sourceninja
A real athlete would man up and give her the trophy themselves.
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Real athletes do it for the money and endorsements. Who gives a 2 fuck if some nobody won the race?
 
Originally posted by: dainthomas
Would the "winner" have been able to run over ten minutes faster if the other lady was in front of her?
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She probably would have been able to run the race faster if someone was in front of her. But we don't know how much faster. And that's the problem.
 
Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: dainthomas
Would the "winner" have been able to run over ten minutes faster if the other lady was in front of her?
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She probably would have been able to run the race faster if someone was in front of her. But we don't know how much faster. And that's the problem.
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Why? They should be pushing themselves to the limit if they want to be called "the best" no matter if there is someone in front of them or not...
 
Originally posted by: MrPickins
Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: dainthomas
Would the "winner" have been able to run over ten minutes faster if the other lady was in front of her?
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She probably would have been able to run the race faster if someone was in front of her. But we don't know how much faster. And that's the problem.
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Why? They should be pushing themselves to the limit if they want to be called "the best" no matter if there is someone in front of them or not...
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I guess I'm a newb to marathons, but I thought they all ran down the same road? Wouldn't the "elite" people who got the head start see themselves getting passed? Even the foremost elite runner who "could have run faster" had her pass them at some point, were they just blind ?
 
while I think that the race official should have done something for the woman, I can see where they are coming from in that the 'elite' group don't know who they are up against. It is a race, which usually requires more than 1 runner otherwise it'd just be a run. What they need to do is cut out this bullshit with having an 'elite' bunch and just group them all together.
 
Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: dainthomas
Would the "winner" have been able to run over ten minutes faster if the other lady was in front of her?
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She probably would have been able to run the race faster if someone was in front of her. But we don't know how much faster. And that's the problem.
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Based on the times, the lady in the story would have finished about a mile and a half ahead of the other one had they started together. And not having to start in a massive mob seems like kind of an advantage anyway.

I wonder if they tell all the "non-elites" that they have absolutely no chance of winning?
 
Originally posted by: KK
while I think that the race official should have done something for the woman, I can see where they are coming from in that the 'elite' group don't know who they are up against. It is a race, which usually requires more than 1 runner otherwise it'd just be a run. What they need to do is cut out this bullshit with having an 'elite' bunch and just group them all together.
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How about we just judge the race assuming that the runners run the best time they are capable of on that day?

If they don't want to run their best, they shouldn't bitch when they get beat.
 
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