Woman In Powered Wheelchair Denied At Drive-Thru

[sactoking]

Originally posted by: TruePaige
In the article it has a lawyer who is reviewing her case saying "I would argue if you're open 24 hours, you need to be accessible and provide accessibility 24 hours," Page said.

All she is going to do is make life harder for those of us who read the signs and follow the rules to get late night snacks, because if the restaurant has to maintain dining room accessibility and service in the (many times) not profitable late night hours, they may just close earlier.

She sounds like she has nothing better to do than be a bitter lawsuit chaser. She claims she is standing up against discrimination, but all she is doing is rolling over people who did nothing wrong.

I agree that if she sues on accessibility issues and wins that the repercussions will be exactly that: everyone will just close down.

I think the attorney is out in left field in the bolded statement though. Operating a drive-through window is not discriminatory in accessibility. Why? Because they make vehicles that people confined to wheelchairs can drive. They use hand controls.

Her access to service was not denied due to her condition, it was denied because she did not take the proper steps to be served; the same steps that the ambulatory and non-ambulatory ALL have to take.

Edited for spelling and puctuation

 

[SagaLore]

I have to agree with White Castle. I think it would be a legal issue if people just started walking up to a drive through window. Imagine if someone in a SUV came around and slammed into her because she was in a blind spot and didn't have appropriate tail lighting to indicate her presence?

Besides legality, she should be refused fast food at midnight just for health reasons.

 

[her209]

Originally posted by: sactoking
I think the attorney is out in left field in the bolded statement though. Operating a drive-through window is not discriminatory in accessibility. Why? Because they make vehicles that people confined to wheelchairs can drive. They use hand controls.

Her access to service was not denied due to her condition, it was denied because she did not take the proper steps to be served; the same steps that the ambulatory and non-ambulatory ALL have to take.

Edited for spelling and puctuation

Not only that, they refuse service to people who are able bodied but not in motorized vehicles.

 

[nakedfrog]

Originally posted by: her209

Originally posted by: sactoking
I think the attorney is out in left field in the bolded statement though. Operating a drive-through window is not discriminatory in accessibility. Why? Because they make vehicles that people confined to wheelchairs can drive. They use hand controls.

Her access to service was not denied due to her condition, it was denied because she did not take the proper steps to be served; the same steps that the ambulatory and non-ambulatory ALL have to take.

Edited for spelling and puctuation

Not only that, they refuse service to people who are able bodied but not in motorized vehicles.

And they're pretty crafty, you can't fool them by making "vroom-vroom" noises at the ordering point.

 

[JeffreyLebowski]

Did anyone actually watch the video. I think the guy at White Castle did her a favor. That bitch is in a wheel chair because she's fucking fat. the last thing she needs to do is eat White Castle. The "arthritis" she has is because the weight her skelton is trying to move around is to much.

If I ever had to work in fast food and was in this situation, I would tell the lady if she can run 2 laps around the building under her own power, I'll sell her the food. Otherwise fatty can get lost.

 

[SuperSix]

Tough shit. Am I supposed to have sympathy for her because she's in a wheelchair> You can't walk though a DRIVE THROUGH for safety reasons.

If she's so damn fragile and sick - WTF is she doing at a burger joint that late?.

 

[guyver01]

Originally posted by: SearchMaster
I can't believe nobody has commented on her interview:

I'm madder'n' fish grease!

OMG.. i think i wanna puke now..

The confrontation on Rice Street pits the venerable 418-restaurant straight-edged hamburger chain based in Columbus, Ohio, against a onetime exotic dancer from New Orleans who until recently worked selling bingo tickets at a St. Paul bar.

if that fuck was an exotic dancer... i'm the king of prussia

 

[EarthwormJim]

Originally posted by: JDawg1536

Originally posted by: Andrew1990
Well I know in Illinois, a electric wheelchair is not considered a vehicle but a tool. The drive through is used for vehicles. She should have found a way to get inside if she wanted the food.

Yeah, but is it really that hard to just serve the lady?

An employee can be fired for servicing a non vehicle in the drive-thru.

Is it that hard for her to go inside?

 

[Caecus Veritas]

i got served in rollerblades once at mcdonalds drive-thru... twas pretty cool.

 

[Red Squirrel]

LMAO that reminds me, my HUGE (600+ pounds) aunt used to have this scooter she would get around town with and once we saw her go through the Wendy's drive thru. She hit a point where she had to be placed in a special care home though. She has a custom wheelchair and everything. Only the best welders in the country can fix that chair.

 

[Red Squirrel]

Originally posted by: Caecus Veritas
i got served in rollerblades once at mcdonalds drive-thru... twas pretty cool.

Haha that is cool.

Personally I don't really see the big deal. It's like walking up to a chip stand and ordering poutine. But guess it's the whole safety / lawsuit thing. It's stupid. Lawsuits seriously need to be put to sleep. Companies go to extremes because if they don't something can happen and they can get sued. For example if someone was with their bike at the drive thru and the car ahead accidentally hit the gas, then they could sue the restaurant. It's stupid. How is it the restaurant's fault that someone else did a mistake on their properly.

One of my coworkers said he once went in a drive thru in reverse. That must of been hilarious for the people serving. not something you see every day.

 

[Bignate603]

It's not that she was in a wheelchair, it was because she wasn't driving.

While you can't discriminate against someone with disabilities it isn't a disability to not have a car. She wasn't discriminated against any more than a person that can walk that couldn't afford a car.

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: RedSquirrel

Originally posted by: Caecus Veritas
i got served in rollerblades once at mcdonalds drive-thru... twas pretty cool.

Haha that is cool.

Personally I don't really see the big deal. It's like walking up to a chip stand and ordering poutine. But guess it's the whole safety / lawsuit thing. It's stupid. Lawsuits seriously need to be put to sleep. Companies go to extremes because if they don't something can happen and they can get sued. For example if someone was with their bike at the drive thru and the car ahead accidentally hit the gas, then they could sue the restaurant. It's stupid. How is it the restaurant's fault that someone else did a mistake on their properly.

One of my coworkers said he once went in a drive thru in reverse. That must of been hilarious for the people serving. not something you see every day.

as much as you say this, I am sure if you or someone you knew was on a bike and got hit in a drive through....a lawyer would be contacted.

 

[IGBT]

do ya think she can go down an escalator backwards without making a scene??

 

[CZroe]

Originally posted by: lxskllr

Originally posted by: PlasmaBomb

Originally posted by: lxskllr
It's a bunch of fuckin' semantics. The scooter's an automobile in every sense of the word. The safety argument's specious also. They might as well have a policy of "No colored served between dusk and dawn" since their dark skin's harder to see, and they could get hit in the parking lot :^S

Their dark skins make their cars harder to see? What is this magic?

Unless you are just being racist and suggesting that coloured people are too stupid to turn on their vehicles lights :|

Oh so when you go to a walk in restaurant you just teleport from your car to the order counter? That's a cool trick, and I'd appreciate you telling me how to do that.

The dining area was closed. It was late-night drive-through only.

Originally posted by: SearchMaster
I can't believe nobody has commented on her interview:

I'm madder'n' fish grease!

What? I use fish grease as a benchmark for comparing levels of anger all the time! You can't really argue... fish grease is some pretty angry grease.

 

[0roo0roo]

in any case its sue happy douchbags that lead to companies needing such restrictions in the first place.

 

[KMFJD]

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
in any case its sue happy douchbags that lead to companies needing such restrictions in the first place.

this

 

[sao123]

Originally posted by: EarthwormJim

Originally posted by: JDawg1536

Originally posted by: Andrew1990
Well I know in Illinois, a electric wheelchair is not considered a vehicle but a tool. The drive through is used for vehicles. She should have found a way to get inside if she wanted the food.

Yeah, but is it really that hard to just serve the lady?

An employee can be fired for servicing a non vehicle in the drive-thru.

Is it that hard for her to go inside?

it was after the dining room was closed???!?

 

[TallBill]

Who really gives a fuck if this lady couldn't get food? I don't, it's a non-story and certainly not worth arguing about.

 

[Wheezer]

I am just waiting for one of these fat bastards to stall in the middle of the road...or pull out in front of me...you wanna get treated like a car with a dumbass driver....no problem....you won't have money for White Castle since you'll be paying for surgery to remove my bumper from your ass.

 

[PlasmaBomb]

Originally posted by: LTC8K6
The chair is completely unmarked and unlit and she's riding it around at night? Where cars normally go? How are drivers supposed to even see her?

If she gets hit, she's going to sue too...

That is because cyclists and people in mobility scooters always have right of way and are always right!

 

[PlasmaBomb]

Originally posted by: lxskllr

Originally posted by: PlasmaBomb

Originally posted by: lxskllr
It's a bunch of fuckin' semantics. The scooter's an automobile in every sense of the word. The safety argument's specious also. They might as well have a policy of "No colored served between dusk and dawn" since their dark skin's harder to see, and they could get hit in the parking lot :^S

Their dark skins make their cars harder to see? What is this magic?

Unless you are just being racist and suggesting that coloured people are too stupid to turn on their vehicles lights :|

Oh so when you go to a walk in restaurant you just teleport from your car to the order counter? That's a cool trick, and I'd appreciate you telling me how to do that.

Read the thread at all?

Well... when I drive into a drive through I don't need to walk into the restaurant, and I certainly don't walk into restaurants which are closed...

So now you are saying black people walk into closed restaurants in the middle of the night eh?

Racist :|

 

[lxskllr]

Originally posted by: PlasmaBomb

Originally posted by: lxskllr

Originally posted by: PlasmaBomb

Originally posted by: lxskllr
It's a bunch of fuckin' semantics. The scooter's an automobile in every sense of the word. The safety argument's specious also. They might as well have a policy of "No colored served between dusk and dawn" since their dark skin's harder to see, and they could get hit in the parking lot :^S

Their dark skins make their cars harder to see? What is this magic?

Unless you are just being racist and suggesting that coloured people are too stupid to turn on their vehicles lights :|

Oh so when you go to a walk in restaurant you just teleport from your car to the order counter? That's a cool trick, and I'd appreciate you telling me how to do that.

Read the thread at all?

Well... when I drive into a drive through I don't need to walk into the restaurant, and I certainly don't walk into restaurants which are closed...

So now you are saying black people walk into closed restaurants in the middle of the night eh?

Racist :|

I'm starting to think you're retarded.

*PEDESTRIANS* have to *GET OUT OF THE CAR TO GO IN THE RESTAURANT*.

Restaurants are open after dark.

If you haven't connected the dots yet, I'll help you out. Somebody getting out of their car to go in the restaurant after dark is less likely to be seen *ESPECIALLY SOMEONE WITH DARK SKIN*.

If it's a safety concern, they won't serve people with dark skin at dark O'clock.

 

[alevasseur14]

Originally posted by: PlasmaBomb

That is because cyclists and people in mobility scooters always have right of way and are always right!

Naturally, it depends on where you live but in Minnesota, bicycles (pretty sure mobility scooters are not allowed on the street) are allowed a full lane and other vehicles are required by law to give three feet of space when passing. Statute 222.21. Obviously, bikes are supposed to obey other traffic laws as well but that's not always how it goes - then again, show me a car driver that doesn't speed and always signals...

So yeah, when I yell "three feet!" at you. I AM right.

 

[trmiv]

What I don't get about the safety argument of why people and bike's can't be in the drive-through is that I've seen many many drive-throughs where the only walkway that leads to the entrance to the restaurant cuts right through the drive-through lane. That alone puts pedestrians straight in the path of the cars, yet the restaurants don't have any issues with that. There are about three places near my work like this.