Imp
Lifer
- Feb 8, 2000
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Extra "bonding experience" is that doctors/nurses spend entire work days in surgery wearing probably uncomfortable garments and saving/killing people. From my experience, the chummier people get, the more gossipy and disgusting/mean conversations get.
Slew Foot
Lifer
- Sep 22, 2005
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You should hear some of the shit patients say as theyre about to go under surgery. This guy last week started cracking all sorts of racist jokes. "What do you call a bus full of ni***** going over a cliff? a good start!" i should start recording and releasing this stuff.
HamburgerBoy
Lifer
- Apr 12, 2004
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He's a scumbag, but learn the different between the general public and the medical staff who should have higher standards.
Red Squirrel
No Lifer
Actually, one thing that would settle this once and for all, did she have the "can I speak with the medical director?" haircut?
Why? Aren't they part of the general public? And, they are held to higher standards. Let one of them fuck up a little bit on your surgery and see just how much you get from them.
This lady was doing nothing but trolling for a law suit and doing some illegal shit, she won't get a dime.
motsm
Golden Member
- Jan 20, 2010
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Her first mistake was going to a county hospital to get free, tax payer subsidized surgery and expecting concierge service for an elective procedure.
Slew Foot
Lifer
- Sep 22, 2005
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Like I said earlier, welcome to medicaid, these people are used to getting everything handed to them in life, they expect everyone else to bend over to their whims.
I was expecting something offensive, that's ridiculously tame compared to some of the stuff I've heard lol. Just the fact that she had the recorder in her hair tells me everything I need to know. Generally speaking, nice patients don't get made fun of much. I guarantee this lady was a total bitch in clinic, and was purposely acting that way so she could catch them making comments that people in any profession make when a particularly obnoxious client/customer/patient leaves (or in this case is unconscious) in an effort to cash in on a lawsuit. Guarantee she didn't even pay for her surgery anyway, she should be thanking them.
kage69
Lifer
- Jul 17, 2003
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Inappropriate? Yes. Unprofessional? Definitely.
A crime worthy of prosecution? No way in hell.
Something tells me she was particularly distressed by the condition itself and how she would manage it leading up to a far off surgery. Maybe she opted for less details and more entitled sounding whining, which irked the Dr.
She might get a bit of satisfaction in that I'm sure that Dr and crew will have some patients seek help elsewhere over this. I'm sure there are plenty of females out there who don't want judgemental douche-bags working the scalpel and IVs in their procedures.
As someone else posted; give the place and Dr a shitty rating online, then get on with your life.
A crime worthy of prosecution? No way in hell.
Something tells me she was particularly distressed by the condition itself and how she would manage it leading up to a far off surgery. Maybe she opted for less details and more entitled sounding whining, which irked the Dr.
She might get a bit of satisfaction in that I'm sure that Dr and crew will have some patients seek help elsewhere over this. I'm sure there are plenty of females out there who don't want judgemental douche-bags working the scalpel and IVs in their procedures.
As someone else posted; give the place and Dr a shitty rating online, then get on with your life.
MongGrel
Lifer
- Dec 3, 2013
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brianmanahan
Lifer
- Sep 2, 2006
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When my sis was in residency she said surgeons were the worst. She was crying one night telling a story about one surgeon who refused to work on a dying person because the person didn't deserve his great skill. Now I could see that being lawsuit worthy.
HamburgerBoy
Lifer
- Apr 12, 2004
- 27,111
- 318
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Was he dying of some kind of self-inflicted, cactus-mediated anal trauma or something?
nursegeek
Junior Member
- Apr 7, 2016
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Having worked in this field for many years, I come @ this from a diff POV, which is my opinion based on years of experience. I just want to point out a few things:
1) No question this _____ planned to make some cash by planning this. No doubt whatsoever. I work, I have gone back to school, I've been in dangerous situations; traveled, am older than you. Yet, strangely, I have NEVER FOUND A REASON TO OWN A RECORDING DEVICE THE SIZE OF A USB DRIVE LIKE SHE DID. That smacks of premeditation and a desire to not get caught, all while surreptitiously - without prior CONSENT - taping an entire OR team. I hope they sue you.
No one is dumb enough to buy your story; that you get a tiny recorder, hide it, but NEVER listen to it until several days later when you aren't feeling well? I call BS. But I will grant that your complaints of itchiness and rash MIGHT be reason to comp your second visit IF, and ONLY IF, it's proven that - and I mean with pics and documents - your symptoms can be proved to be CAUSALLY r/t a previously discussed allergy. But that's an entirely separate discussion from what you keep choosing to persist in complaining about, so I will leave that alone for the moment.
2) This _____ sought surgery at a county facility, meaning that we pay for her medical care. So she's clearly an able-bodied freeloader at the start. Apparently in the year since this happened, she hasn't received the hush money she wanted so is trying to inflame and conflate this with race, and the black media is buying in.
3) The whole point of discussing what a bitch she was at the FREE CLINIC, insisting on immediate service (like she had some VIP card to play in the welfare lottery), is because of exactly that: No doubt the doc got pissed and finally -patience wearing thin - DID act like "who do you think you are? Get in line.".... The price you pay for being a freeloader at a young age, fat to boot so clearly government cheese is awesome these days, yet still thinking she can bully her way ahead of other fellow freeloaders or more importantly, the REALLY SICK and working poor with no insurance who quietly accept reality.
4) The price you pay for deliberately antagonizing staff WHO WILL BE WIELDING SCALPELS TO TAKE CARE OF YOUR FAT ASS W/NO CHARGE TO YOU. Of course you will be talked about! You were a self-centered, self-righteous, self-entitled bitch. The MINUTE you're out - whether OUT of the clinic, OUT like a light on the table, or OUT of their lives forever and they're doing the happy dance - the roast begins. Otherwise, we talk about the same things you talk about at work, IF YOU HAD A JOB. No one I've come across is that stupid: pissing off the surgeon. It makes zero sense, unless.....
5) I suspect she deliberately antagonized the free clinic staff to have a reason to plant the recorder in her typical and common search for a big-time payday.
6) Herniorrhaphies are NOT an emergency surgery unless you have incarcerated bowel within said hernia. Otherwise it's a drive-thru surgery and you're discharged the same day. Her reference to her "dying" is patently false; said hernia is probably a result of her fat belly finally giving up the battle to maintain some sort of core strength after a lengthy but unsuccessful struggle.
7) Any idea how much extensions cost, while seeking free care originally set up - not for generation upon generation of families from birth to grave as an entitlement just for "being you", but a safety net for those UNABLE, either physically or mentally, to hold a job down. I'd like to know when the last time you were employed was.
8) Like most people, my guess is that your "dying" from this hernia lasted a VERY long time before you sought help, and then you expect immediate treatment. If we had a dollar for every time an ER complaint was described as lasting several weeks to months before seeking treatment, we'd be rich. I myself have done that. But I never confused my discomfort with words like "dying", deathly ill, etc.
9) The truth is, we all have to wait. Yes, even my insured, insider, hooked up as friend to Northwestern's ortho chief of staff from working at the same place for years butt, HAD TO WAIT. In my case, I had joint trauma YEARS ago, lived with the pain until one day deciding that's it, getting a new joint, can't take it any more. I ALSO WAITED, you selfish bitch.
10) So they called you Precious, big deal. It's not like you don't know you're fat. Pretty much everything they said was either truthful or innocuous. Both happen to be good defenses against your previously planned lawsuit. Judging by the hospital's response to you last year, they told you they spoke with the staff and considered the case closed. With any luck - and the absence of Al Sharpton - this is the end of your preplanned attempt at extorting money.
11) All of the above is what I think - in other words, MY OPINION. Don't bother coming for me because I have no moola to give you honey. If you'd just been a decent, normal, kind and understanding human being - ALONG WITH SOME GRATITUDE FOR THE FREE EFFING CARE - you would have heard them talking about the election, sports, the weather, their spouses, sex, any # of topics that occupy water coolers all over this country. If you think that the Walmart employees don't talk about your bitchy ass after you leave - or anywhere else you frequent - you're more stupid than you sound. It's normal human behavior to piss and moan at work out of earshot of - what is USUALLY a paying customer - and not only is it normal, the healthiest mental health defense against stress induced by difficult and impossible people, above all else, is HUMOR. It's how working people get through their difficult days. Try it sometime. Both the humor and the work. My guess is that's what everyone that knows you does. And thus the OR comment "I feel sorry for her husband." And knowing about the "dozens", the frequently seen and heard loud and insulting ways of communication in and out of conflict, my guess is you'll have a hard time collecting cash for what is basically a room of people calling you a difficult bitch. And obese. Truth is a legal defense.
12) PS: My 93 year old, retired CPD, worked 16 hours a day for 16 years to support his family......he's had the same exact hernia for decades without treatment (his choice, of course) and will hopefully continue to have it for at least 1 more decade. So please. STFU.
1) No question this _____ planned to make some cash by planning this. No doubt whatsoever. I work, I have gone back to school, I've been in dangerous situations; traveled, am older than you. Yet, strangely, I have NEVER FOUND A REASON TO OWN A RECORDING DEVICE THE SIZE OF A USB DRIVE LIKE SHE DID. That smacks of premeditation and a desire to not get caught, all while surreptitiously - without prior CONSENT - taping an entire OR team. I hope they sue you.
No one is dumb enough to buy your story; that you get a tiny recorder, hide it, but NEVER listen to it until several days later when you aren't feeling well? I call BS. But I will grant that your complaints of itchiness and rash MIGHT be reason to comp your second visit IF, and ONLY IF, it's proven that - and I mean with pics and documents - your symptoms can be proved to be CAUSALLY r/t a previously discussed allergy. But that's an entirely separate discussion from what you keep choosing to persist in complaining about, so I will leave that alone for the moment.
2) This _____ sought surgery at a county facility, meaning that we pay for her medical care. So she's clearly an able-bodied freeloader at the start. Apparently in the year since this happened, she hasn't received the hush money she wanted so is trying to inflame and conflate this with race, and the black media is buying in.
3) The whole point of discussing what a bitch she was at the FREE CLINIC, insisting on immediate service (like she had some VIP card to play in the welfare lottery), is because of exactly that: No doubt the doc got pissed and finally -patience wearing thin - DID act like "who do you think you are? Get in line.".... The price you pay for being a freeloader at a young age, fat to boot so clearly government cheese is awesome these days, yet still thinking she can bully her way ahead of other fellow freeloaders or more importantly, the REALLY SICK and working poor with no insurance who quietly accept reality.
4) The price you pay for deliberately antagonizing staff WHO WILL BE WIELDING SCALPELS TO TAKE CARE OF YOUR FAT ASS W/NO CHARGE TO YOU. Of course you will be talked about! You were a self-centered, self-righteous, self-entitled bitch. The MINUTE you're out - whether OUT of the clinic, OUT like a light on the table, or OUT of their lives forever and they're doing the happy dance - the roast begins. Otherwise, we talk about the same things you talk about at work, IF YOU HAD A JOB. No one I've come across is that stupid: pissing off the surgeon. It makes zero sense, unless.....
5) I suspect she deliberately antagonized the free clinic staff to have a reason to plant the recorder in her typical and common search for a big-time payday.
6) Herniorrhaphies are NOT an emergency surgery unless you have incarcerated bowel within said hernia. Otherwise it's a drive-thru surgery and you're discharged the same day. Her reference to her "dying" is patently false; said hernia is probably a result of her fat belly finally giving up the battle to maintain some sort of core strength after a lengthy but unsuccessful struggle.
7) Any idea how much extensions cost, while seeking free care originally set up - not for generation upon generation of families from birth to grave as an entitlement just for "being you", but a safety net for those UNABLE, either physically or mentally, to hold a job down. I'd like to know when the last time you were employed was.
8) Like most people, my guess is that your "dying" from this hernia lasted a VERY long time before you sought help, and then you expect immediate treatment. If we had a dollar for every time an ER complaint was described as lasting several weeks to months before seeking treatment, we'd be rich. I myself have done that. But I never confused my discomfort with words like "dying", deathly ill, etc.
9) The truth is, we all have to wait. Yes, even my insured, insider, hooked up as friend to Northwestern's ortho chief of staff from working at the same place for years butt, HAD TO WAIT. In my case, I had joint trauma YEARS ago, lived with the pain until one day deciding that's it, getting a new joint, can't take it any more. I ALSO WAITED, you selfish bitch.
10) So they called you Precious, big deal. It's not like you don't know you're fat. Pretty much everything they said was either truthful or innocuous. Both happen to be good defenses against your previously planned lawsuit. Judging by the hospital's response to you last year, they told you they spoke with the staff and considered the case closed. With any luck - and the absence of Al Sharpton - this is the end of your preplanned attempt at extorting money.
11) All of the above is what I think - in other words, MY OPINION. Don't bother coming for me because I have no moola to give you honey. If you'd just been a decent, normal, kind and understanding human being - ALONG WITH SOME GRATITUDE FOR THE FREE EFFING CARE - you would have heard them talking about the election, sports, the weather, their spouses, sex, any # of topics that occupy water coolers all over this country. If you think that the Walmart employees don't talk about your bitchy ass after you leave - or anywhere else you frequent - you're more stupid than you sound. It's normal human behavior to piss and moan at work out of earshot of - what is USUALLY a paying customer - and not only is it normal, the healthiest mental health defense against stress induced by difficult and impossible people, above all else, is HUMOR. It's how working people get through their difficult days. Try it sometime. Both the humor and the work. My guess is that's what everyone that knows you does. And thus the OR comment "I feel sorry for her husband." And knowing about the "dozens", the frequently seen and heard loud and insulting ways of communication in and out of conflict, my guess is you'll have a hard time collecting cash for what is basically a room of people calling you a difficult bitch. And obese. Truth is a legal defense.
12) PS: My 93 year old, retired CPD, worked 16 hours a day for 16 years to support his family......he's had the same exact hernia for decades without treatment (his choice, of course) and will hopefully continue to have it for at least 1 more decade. So please. STFU.
nursegeek
Junior Member
- Apr 7, 2016
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Why - and more importantly WHO - says we should be held to a higher standard of behavior? Are we robots that are just supposed to lay down and take any and all shit thrown our way?
I contend that they WERE professional. They didn't treat her poorly, or make her wait longer just because of the bitch factor. Anyone that thinks they are PC 100% 24/7 should get their own recorder for a week's worth of wakeup call. Texas requires prior consent, which she didn't have. Why anyone is worried about her side of consent and LOC (level of consciousness) is beyond me. She - to risk Cooper's 5 year old comment to Trump - started it. Whether she was unconscious when she set it to record is morally and legally irrelevant.
We are also entitled to our own water cooler "conversating". Humor is not only the best medicine, it's also one of the recognized highest forms of defensive mechanisms in a workplace to relieve stress. Should we go postal instead?
nursegeek
Junior Member
- Apr 7, 2016
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Yes, and it's practiced more and more in healthcare. Defensively. Your only option is to give tacit consent by staying on the phone, or refuse and hang up.
nursegeek
Junior Member
- Apr 7, 2016
- 7
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You know, that's probably the only thing I regret having people possibly infer from my first response on this topic. I don't want anyone feeling body-image issues around this. I myself am a shadow (and then some) of my former self.people have body shamed me my whole life
and i wasnt even under anesthesia
But as I've often heard from deleted: Don't start no mess; they'll be no mess. Again, risking Anderson Cooper's withering gaze: She started it. And if she has money for extensions, I'm sure she owns a mirror. Not exactly a news flash that she's obese.
When you engage in skullduggery and pursuit of injuring decent people just trying to do their job, you lose the right to your hurt feelings, ego, or anything else. IMHO
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WelshBloke
Lifer
- Jan 12, 2005
- 33,370
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Why unprofessional? Their profession is to cut people up to make them better, its not to whisper sweet nothings to them.
nursegeek
Junior Member
- Apr 7, 2016
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Are you saying HER damages? SHE RECORDED. Not them. Hope she gets sued. Shut the fantasy gravy train definitively DOWN in that town before it starts.
Here we occasionally have CTA accidents and all you see are hordes of people trying to get ONTO the bus. The cash money bus.
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